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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:15 PM
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Rush. This dosen`t come close to what Clinton did.
Old Limpballs listed all the things Clinton and his wife did from Whitewater to travelgate to the money from China. The alledged leak doesen`t come close to any of what they did.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:17 PM
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1. He's a turd
Nope, not even close. THIS IS HIGH TREASON, YOU FAT F*CK!!!!!!!!! Travelgate, my ass!
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:19 PM
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2. My very own thought, as well.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:19 PM
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25. True - here are some questions to be asked of Rush
From the ABCnote:

"Has President Bush made clear to the White House staff that only total cooperation with the investigation will be tolerated? If not, why not?

Has he insisted that every senior staff member sign a statement with legal authority that they are not the leaker and that they will identify to the White House legal counsel who is?

Has Bush required that all sign a letter relinquishing journalists from protecting those two sources? Has Bush said that those involved in this crime will be immediately fired? If not, why not?

Has Albert Gonzalez distributed a letter to White House employees telling them to preserve documents, logs, records? If not, why not?

Has Andy Card named someone on his staff to organize compliance? If not, why not?

White House officials who might have legal or political exposure on this are going to have to decide whether to hire lawyers or not, and the White House counsel's office is going to have to decide what legal help they can and should provide to officials if and when the DOJ wants to talk to them.

That means that the '90s practice of every Washington bureau of calling members of the bar to see who has hired whom is about to heat back up. The first one to report someone hiring a criminal lawyer wins a prize, as does the first person who develops that lawyer as a source on all this.

A reminder that students of recusal politics will have to consider the Rove-Ashcroft history"

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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:20 PM
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5. LOL!
Bush could kill 10 people with his own hands, and Rush would still say it wasn't as bad as Clinton's BJ.
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LostInAmerica Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:24 PM
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9. Travelgate, indeed
I can't tell you how I know this, fertilizeonarbusto, but I was privy to some of the inside info re: the Clintons and the WH travel office. The firings weren't the scandal -- the actions of certain officials within the travel office were. From what I could tell, the Clintons were justified in their suspicions. No, I can't say for sure that there was actual wrongdoing taking place in the travel office, but man, the impression of impropriety was certainly there. Big time.

Of course, the CIA/Plame story isn't nearly as important as Travelgate, though.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:44 PM
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16. Thanks for the info
I find that very likely indeed.
Folks, Flush is farcical anymore....
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:19 PM
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3. Yeah, and $60 million later, they hadn't found any
evidence, so they had to switch to plan B - impeachment for being naughty.

We, however, have Mr. Novak on videotape! Hehe.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:22 PM
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8. Yeah, the $:alleged felony:conviction ratio -- Bush is looking pretty bad.
What was Clinton's? $60 Million:1:0

Bush? $0:2:?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:20 PM
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4. I agree
Bush* is a treasonous tyrant whose office outted a CIA agent and endangered the lives of his contacts, and who lied to start a war killing thousands of people and destroying the U.S. economy, while Clinton lost $30,000 in an Arkansas land deal and fooled around on his wife.

How can you even compare the two?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:21 PM
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6. so i guess that means our war on terror doesn't mean anything...
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 01:42 PM by bpilgrim
nor trying to track wmd trades... :crazy:

our modern day cicero for the lowbrow...

peace
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:21 PM
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7. HIGH TREASON VS "behavior issues"
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 01:21 PM by Capn Sunshine
Rush is right. There's no comparison. Not even close.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:27 PM
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10. Slater:
"The alledged leak doesen't come close to any of what they did."

Is this YOUR opinion, or are you simply repeating Rush's opinion?
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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:38 PM
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12. Hell no
Limpballs.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:30 PM
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11. Who cares what Rush thinks
most people know that all of those blowjob scandals don't come up to treason.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:38 PM
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13. What clinton did doesn't matter. What bush is DOING is the point that
he's avoiding, as usual.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:41 PM
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14. "Rush is full of shit"
- Gen. Wesley Clark
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:41 PM
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15. er Rush... compromising CIA operations on the flow of WMDs
is an issue of national security. Remember how many times before the war with iraq- YOU raised the issue of how dangerous Iraq would be with nukes and other WMDs because they might give it to terrorists?

What someone in the WH did - and the WH (with their war on terror) has been unconcerned about - has compromised the US efforts to prevent terrorists from getting WMDs.

Travelgate? Big theat to national security.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:45 PM
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17. Dear GOD
WHEN WILL THEY GET OVER CLINTON?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:46 PM
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18. its a good sign, though. They pull Clinton
in, whenever they can not come up with ANY spinable excuse that would fly with the hypnotized.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:47 PM
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20. 2 or 3 generations from now
Until Clinton, most Rethugs still bashed FDR.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:47 PM
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19. sounds like Rush thinks Bush is behind this
:shrug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:50 PM
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21. In the off chance that rush reads this thread
My thoughts ...

It is now obvious that rush doesn't believe what he says.

Endangering American National Security is bigger than
lying about a blow job under oath, Period end of sentence .

The entire WMD team the CIA had, was Jepardized for
political purposes . All the contacts ..This is HUGE.

Treason is Treason

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
let's see
rush supports bush over the Constitution, and American
National Security how completely stupid of rush .

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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:52 PM
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22. That's right... Treason is a lot more serious than a blow job
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:56 PM
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23. You know it's bad when...
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 01:57 PM by Padraig18
My State's lame-duck Reugnicrat Senator (Peter Fitzgerald, R-IL) says, quote:

"I believe an independent counsel is needed; allegations of such a serious nature cannot be ignored."

My head just exploded! :P

PS-- Fitzgerald doesn't have to get re-elected, and he has more money than God (so the BFEE can't buy him off), so maybe he's just decided to speak his mind, do you think?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:01 PM
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24. Good For Sen. Fitzgerald, Sir
This sort of comment will be very useful as this thing unfolds. For a fellow committed to the other side, he really id not a bad sort. Of course, a yeller dawg would get my vote in a race against him....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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