Would you Kill for your God?

[mopaul]

personally, i'd have to have a better reason before i start killing people, i don't believe in gods anymore, so if you try to insult my god, you pound sand. and if my disbelief in your god insults you, too bad, just don't kill me over it.

as a non believer, i hold no malice toward anyone of any religion, and i strongly support america's freedom of religion, unless of course one or more of those religions starts getting pushy and absorbing our government.

the history of religion has it's ugly side, many sects and cults and factions have killed for their deities alone, and for no other reason. religious racism for lack of a better term, and it still goes on today in serbia, bosnia, and iraq. someone who is so worked up over their deities that they murder thousands to honor and defend them.

i hear more and more wackos calling into cspan declaring jihad on all islam and calling for racial profiling and interment camps and nuking mecca and humiliating muslim prisoners of war and generally repeating the nazi agenda. it's religious racism, it's jesus supreme-ism, it's a crusades mentality in the oh so modern 21st century.

i'd kill somebody if i had a good reason, but not for a god. if i were the king of the world, i wouldn't impose a religion on anyone, or kill anyone over religion, or kill anyone who didn't believe in a god. but, you can bet your ass that if pat robertson were the king of the world, people like me, and people of any religion other than his, would be burned at the stake.

[WearyOne]

1. no..or anyone else

[peace frog]

2. My god would never require me to kill

nor will I worship one who would make such a ridiculous demand.

[Sapphocrat]

6. Took the reply right out of my head.

My god would never ask me to kill.

[Enraged_Ape]

27. You said it

Any god who demands that his children kill each other is no god.

It kind of reminds me of that Captain Kirk line in Star Trek V: "Why would God need a starship?"

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. why?

God is everything, even my enemies. No, no need to kill.

[punpirate]

4. Never kid yourself...

... God's got nothing to do with it. Men decide to go to war, not God....

Cheers.

[ET Awful]

5. Isn't that what got the Son of Sam in trouble . . . oh wait, you said God

then No.

[KG]

7. that same god that commands his followers not to kill?

[Jamastiene]

8. I'm one of those people who rebelled against the types who

do think killing in the name of their god was okay. I would say that I have met some liberals who believe in the same god and it makes me kind of stop and think. Honestly, if I became a devout believer, I still wouldn't think killing would be right, especially in the name of any god, because if there is a god, who would you have to answer to if you were wrong?

[kodi]

9. must be a pretty weak god to need humans to do its killing for it

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[Walt Starr]

10. Only if somebody tried to take away my right to believe how I choose

about my Goddess and God.

[fujiyama]

11. In my case

I have no God for which I am demanded to stupid things for.

[LaurenG]

12. Any god that would ask that isn't god

Sounds like your talking about the neo-cons god though.

[Qanisqineq]

24. that was exactly my thought n/t

[demnan]

13. My friend says "Islam is a peaceful religion"

no offense to Islam in particular, but there's no such thing as a "peaceful religion". History has proven that.

[Jara sang]

14. No, but in light of your contempt for God...

Ask not why the Mods have forsaken the. I banish thine thread to the eternal darkness of the Religion $ Philosophy forum!!! Now, speed the to R & P!

[mopaul]

16. damn, banished again

i hold no contempt for a diety i don't believe in.

[Jara sang]

18. Yeah, one of my "god threads" got banished there.

I was pissed. It's sitting there in some kind of DU pergutory...

[Swamp Rat]

20. Didn't I end up there with you?

:shrug:

[Lannes]

15. If he asks me personally im going to get worried

Thats what you usually hear serial killers say.

[fasttense]

17. No, my God would never ask me to kill people for her,

now would I ask my God to kill people for me.

[Hubert Flottz]

19. This is a trick question?

"Thou shalt not whack people!"

[ClintonTyree]

21. Flamebait, anyone?

We had a similar poll yesterday that was locked because it got WAY out of hand.

[mopaul]

22. so be it

[thiscrowlives]

23. Unfortunately, there are too many ...

... people in this world who are willing to kill or commit violence for some reason ........ any reason. Some focus on inward justifications and become murderers, rapists, etc. Some focus on external justifications and become zealots and radicals.

Some of the parallels between the Crusades and the "war on terror" are fascinating. As I read about them, a question keeps coming to mind: "Doesn't anyone learn from history?"

I agree with most who seem to suggest that God, in whatever form he is worshipped, does not want or need his own little hit squad. I personally think that those who are religious get bashed on a little bit too much. All social groups or classes have extreme elements that don't accurately represent the large majority.

[yvr girl]

25. yes....but there would need to be a burning bush involved

I can't foresee a situation where he would require it. I would need more than just a feeling about something.

[Crankie Avalon]

26. No, but then I'm not terribly "religious"...

...I would refer you to the Bible story of Abraham and Isaac.

God commanded Abraham to sacrifice Abraham's only son, Isaac (a son, additionally, that Abraham never thought he'd have due to his wife's age at the time of Isaac's birth, so Isaac was supposed to be even more dear to Abraham).

Abraham was ready to sacrifice this only and long-yearned-for son at the command of God. The story never questions whether Abraham is right to be willing to follow this command. In fact, it is clear that the story is supposed to be a moral lesson for all others who follow the Bible: You SHOULD kill even those you hold most dear if your God commands it (let alone those people who are strangers and/or different from you).

The story cops out a little at the end--God tells Abraham not to go through with it after all ("Your faith is enough"), but it's clear that it is supposed to be God's call to make, and if God tells you to do it and does NOT go back on it, neither can you.

Christian fundamentalists are supposed to believe everything the Bible says, so there you go. :shrug:

[mopaul]

28. "God told Abraham kill me a son, Abe said man you must be puttin me on

abe said where do want this killin' done, god said out on hiway 61

........bob dylan.....

many actually have sacrificed their children to abraham's god, many still do, including certain moms in texas, etc.

people blow up women's clinics and murder their doctors cause god told them to. eric rudolph is just as bad as osama bin laden, but the god card is really a cop out excuse.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. God seems to be able to do His own dirty work more efficiently.

Considering that God is the "author of all things" and ascribing everything to "God's will", such benevolent inventions as malaria, plague, typhus, tuberculosis, AIDS, tsunamis, typhoons, earthquakes, meteor impacts, and other magic tricks, he needs another killer about as much as Bill Gates needs a loan of 5 bucks.

[La Coliniere]

30. NO, but

millions have and millions would. The Dark Ages are alive and well.

[noonwitch]

31. Jesus taught me to turn the other cheek

Although I am not as perfect as He, so I can see some circumstances in which I'd kill, the reasons are not rooted in religion as much as psychology and self-defense.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. Not having a God, I don't have to worry about that.