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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:26 PM
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Think it is time to concentrate our energies on getting someone elected...
...next year for president who did not vote for Chimpys war resolution. The rest are all good men and all, but they unelectable at this point in my opinion. I want to win next year.

Don

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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:28 PM
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1. I agree a pro war candidate is not viable
It becomes more obvious everyday.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:29 PM
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2. Sweety, maybe you'd like to wait
Until America's Democrats have gone to the polls and made a choice.

You know, pretend we're still a democracy?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:31 PM
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3. Honey. Last time I checked I was an American and a Democrat
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 08:31 PM by NNN0LHI
So my opinion is as good as yours or anyone elses at this point. Dig?

Don

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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:36 PM
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Chill
I think aquart's point was to wait until after the primaries are over before we all unite behind one candidate. Why would we do that BEFORE the primaries?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:36 PM
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4. I guess that leaves the choice
between Dean and Kucinich. While I like Kucinich, I doubt he will win the nomination. So Dean is the only choice. What a surprise!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:37 PM
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5. Just for kicks
Remembering that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and that there wasn't much of a reason to think he'd stopped making WMD; if a person voted for the authorization with the intention that it be muscle to enforce inspections and with the intention that Bush would actually work with the UN; would it then be wrong to back that person as a candidate?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:39 PM
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6. I think that one of Dean's strengths is that
he was not in Washington DC during this administration.

For whatever reason, the people in this country seem to like to elect governors (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Shrub). I think that in the next election that being a governor will be even more of an advantage.

I think Graham of Florida would be a good choice for vice-president because he could be touted as having the experience to clean up our intelligence agencies. And he will be a reminder to all that Bush was responsible for intelligence failures leading up to both 9/11 and Iraq. Not to mention that we need Florida.

I like Wesley Clark, but other than Eisenhower, military men have not carried votes the way you would expect. I am thinking of John McCain, especially in the South Carolina Republican primary, and Max Cleland in the senate race in Georgia. Both were defeated by chicken hawks. I am also reminded that Kathleen Kennedy Townsend selected a retired admiral as her running mate for governor of Maryland. He was a good man but I don't think he gained votes for her.

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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 09:23 PM
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7. Say what?
There have been 12 former generals elected to the Presidency. I'd say that's pretty good.

Counting the generals, we've also elected:
2 Majors
1 Captain
2 Colonels
1 Commander(US Navy O-5 ... equal to Lt. Colonel.)
4 Lt. Commanders (US Navy O-4 ... equal to Major)
1 Lt. (US Navy O-3 ... equal to Captain.)

(I don't count what * did as military service.)


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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 09:26 PM
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8. Let's see
Carter, Clinton, Bush were all governors from the South. Reagan was from a huge electoral state, California. Dean is a former governor from a tiny New England state. I see a difference here.
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