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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:59 PM
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Are "blogs" giving MSM reporters an excuse not to do their jobs?
They can just take it easy. The bloggers will report on all the scandals and illegal activities of this Administration and the reporters can report on the bloggers and nothing is reported as "real" news. It's second-hand hearsay by the talking heads on cable television. Might this be an unintended consequence of the advent of "blogs"? Anybody else thought about this?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:03 PM
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1. Say what?
Since when did they need an excuse? :eyes:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:06 PM
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4. True, but...
does this make it even easier for them?
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:03 PM
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2. They need an excuse now? n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:05 PM
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3. I think it's the other way around..
The bloggers have to work twice as hard because the msmcorporate won't do their jobs.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:09 PM
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5. You are absolutely 100 percent correct....
....that is exactly the upshot for the MSM...they can sit back and watch hundreds, thousands of nameless, faceless bloggers do their digging for them...and when the bloggers get the goods finally....boom...the MSM steps in and says "Look what I have done, I am the people's voice, the watchguard of democracy...", blah, blah, blah. You want to fucking puke. Bottom line though is....as long as it gets done, I don't give a rat's ass who claims responsibility for putting Rove's fat lard ass in a sling.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:20 PM
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6. The MSM are a fickle breed. They get something going and
we hear about for a couple of days, until the WH comes out with something to divert their attention. And they follow the WH even if it is nothing of consequence. Some reporter on TV or newspaper could set the world on fire if they would really start digging and stick with it. My God, it's only our country at stake! I wish Carl Bernstein would get onto it. He is stil a "real" reporter, but he can shove Woodward in the trash can. Woodward has made a living off of Deep Throat and cruised into history.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:21 PM
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7. they weren't doing their jobs long before blogs
:eyes:
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:22 PM
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8. It's because they WEREN"T
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 04:23 PM by jrthin
doing their jobs which helped to create an urgent need for other info.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:34 PM
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9. I think the bloggers are filling the void left by the MSM
already not doing their jobs. The shock will be as more and more people give up on the MSM, there won't be anyone left to give these lazy reporters their big fat paychecks.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:37 PM
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10. No, blogs highlight stories originally printed in newspapers.
The "Jeff Gannon" scandal is an exception. The S/M story of the campaign manager of Jean Schmidt (OH Republican candidate for US Congress) is another exception.

99.9% of the time, newspapers break a story and bloggers quote the newspapers.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:13 PM
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12. Right, the only thing bloggers are likely to "uncover" themselves are
ONLINE phenomena, like Gannon's hooker webpage and the Schmidt (sp?) campaign manager's S&M profile.

Also, while a blogger calling attention to something could alert reporters to a new story, if they had any journalistic standards they'd still be under obligation to verify sources and have independent sources.

This is why the Right Wing Noise Machine makes so much use of people like Drudge, Rush, Hannity etc... because they are not officially "journalists" they are free to repeat and echo any rumor out there, and rumor mongering smears are a primary method of the Rove machine.

Of course we are rapidly approaching the point where so-called "regular" media are not being held to any standards anymore, so this may all be moot, unfortunately.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:37 PM
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14. Everyone talked about Drudge's false story that Kerry
had an affair with an intern, including DU, and including mainstream tv news.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:02 PM
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11. the MSM's job is propaganda; the lie is that they are news
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:20 PM
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13. Since Salon outed Hyde, the Internet has been the "Balls" of the Press.
Good thing, too, since the Far Right has castrated the MSM.

As long as someone writes something in a blog that is read fairly regularly or in an online news site, the reporters at the MSM can then report that "So and so is reporting" and they dont have to worry about getting so much heat from their corporate masters when they cover the stories they really want to cover like the PLame Affair.

It sucked during the Clinton administration but now that the left has its own internet sites, it is working out ok.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:45 PM
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15. The Media Is Changing
A decade ago there were few people with computers, yet alone bloggers. Go back a little further and there really wasn't much news on TV. Most people only got what ever Jennings or Rather or Brokaw could fit into 30 minutes.

If you wanted to find out more, there was the one or two papers that you might be able to read during the day, and then the weekly magazines...which would take upwards of a week to get a story out.

Today we're in "news overload". Look at all the posts in LBN...so many different items to look at from sources worldwide. The speed on how something can move from a little item into a massive thread is astounding.

The corporate media's problem is not being lazy as much as trying to control the "news cycle". They hate it when they can't profit or have a major affect in spinning a story and this is where the bloggers get under their skin the most. We're kinda like Napsters out here...leaching their scoops and they don't like it.

OFW...
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:14 PM
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16. I'm new to the blogging world!
Just started my own blog.
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I think blogs are a MUST in today's world, because the MSM isn't doing it's job.

Take, for example, the case of the missing African-American woman in Philadelphia. A local blogger became aware of the story, but was fustrated because the case was not getting attention from the media.

So this person started covering it on their blog, and it gained traction.
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