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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:26 PM
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Rove-Plame Scandal Leading to Deeper White House Horrors?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_by_berna_050719_rove_plame_scandal_l.htm


Rove-Plame Scandal Leading to Deeper White House Horrors?

At long last, Plamegate -- the scandal surrounding the outing of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson by two "senior administration officials" -- has exploded out of the D.C. beltway to become a major national news story.

It would appear that this scandal goes way beyond Karl Rove and who said what t
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:27 PM
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1. Hope it stays this way....this is hooootttt. nt
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:28 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:29 PM
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:33 PM
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4. Good read. Kicking to keep on top of Roberts appointment. Here's hoping
the independant council digs deeper and deeper.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:33 PM
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6. kick
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:33 PM
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5. very very interesting!
Its so damn obvious. Please tell me the American won't sleep through this!
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:34 PM
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7. They'll only sleep if we let them. n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:35 PM
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8. Why do so many on DU make this a Rove thing? It is a Rove-Libby
thing. Libby means Cheney. Cheney is the boss. Bush is the marionette.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:37 PM
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10. We gotta start somewhere. We all know it goes deep, but no
proof is on the table right now. I believe the time will come these bastards will be dragged out of office. Hopefully before the SCOTUS Nominee is accepted.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:40 PM
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11. It's a traitor thing. eom
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:37 PM
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:44 PM
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12. I'm a big fan of Bernie Weiner
As usual, he's got his shit together.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:14 PM
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26. This is the first I've heard of him. Great article.
When you think about how the media is now turning on the WH, how much the WH has been wagging-the-dog, & how the WH is coming up with one outrageous smear after another, it becomes obvious how this case has the potential to bring down this administration.

But, from what Fitzgerald has suggested, he and the grand jury long ago determined who the leakers were. That's not what is at issue now. The investigation is all tied in with the national-security matters talked about on those blacked-out eight pages.

And, a reasonable guess is that those pages deal in some fashion with the actions -- legal or illegal, overt or covert, actual or covered-up -- of the members of an inner council of Administration heavies called the White House Iraq Group.

(...)

Again, it's not totally clear how far Special Counsel/U.S Attorney Fitzgerald is willing to go to clear out this nest of Administration vipers. He could choose to stick close to the Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson case itself, or he could keep heading in the direction of indicting a good many Administration officials -- perhaps with Bush and Cheney as unindicted co-conspirators -- for their part in lying about classified national-security matters to the Congress and American people. A wild card: If Judith Miller were to trade immunity for prosecution and decide to testify about Rove/Libby/Cheney, anything could happen.




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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:53 PM
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29. LOL, he's only featured as a guest writer on the front page of DU...
about every other week...Check him out, Dummy (just kidding :)). It is interesting how many of us skip the front page at DU and go straight to the forums. I'm one of the guilty parties, too ;)

Check out the Crisis Papers. The Partridge/Weiner team is quite a dynamic duo. www.crisispapers.org

Here's a good archive list, too:
http://oldamericancentury.com/crisis_bio.htm
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:57 PM
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31. Heyyyyyy...
Thanks for the heads up. I stay logged onto the latest page & never think about going to the front page.

Thanks for the gentle :nuke: reminder. ;)
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:45 PM
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:45 PM
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14. Question for lawyers
I have no experience with lawyer briefs (or whatever they're called) but eight pages that were redacted seems like a lot. Is that a true statement? Seems like there might be a little meat in there....
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:45 PM
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:45 PM
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16. Recommended
Bernard Weiner is great. This is a very good read. Weiner, as usual, has a new bend on an already well-covered subject. Where is Fitzgerald going with this?

Where, indeed?
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:46 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:47 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:47 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:48 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:50 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:53 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:54 PM
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:57 PM
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24. Recommended n/t
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:58 PM
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:15 PM
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:29 PM
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28. Excellent article, thanks for the link!
:kick:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:55 PM
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30. Best article I have read on this subject - and there have been
many excellent ones. The following caught my eye:

"But someone, or some entity, within the Administration had to coordinate these concerted propaganda campaigns. That was the bailiwick and job-assignment of the WHIG, chaired by Bush's Chief of Staff Andrew Card, the regular members of which were Karl Rove, the president's senior political adviser; communications strategists Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin and James R. Wilkinson; legislative liaison Nicholas E. Calio; and policy advisers led by Rice and her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley, along with "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff. In other words, WHIG included the key decision makers (Rove, Rice, Card, Cheney-via Libby), and the key propaganda specialists (Hughes, Matalin, et al.). "
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:06 AM
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32. Thanks for sharing, n/t
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