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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:13 PM
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Rep. King Says Russert and Others in Media Should 'Be Shot,' Not Karl Rove
Published: July 13, 2005 2:00 PM ET
NEW YORK From the transcript of an interview on Tuesday night on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country," between host Joe Scarborough and Congressman Peter King, a Republican from New York, on the Plame case and the possible leak of the CIA agent's name by White House aide Karl Rove.

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SCARBOROUGH: The last thing you want to do at a time of war is reveal the identity of undercover CIA agents.

KING: No. Joe Wilson, she recommended—his wife recommended him for this. He said the vice president recommended him. To me, she took it off the table. Once she allowed him to go ahead and say that, write his op-ed in “The New York Times,” to have Tim Russert give him a full hour on “Meet the Press,” saying that he was sent there as a representative of the vice president, when she knew, she knew herself that she was the one that recommended him for it, she allowed that lie to go forward involving the vice president of the United States, the president of the United States, then to me she should be the last one in the world who has any right to complain.

And Joe Wilson has no right to complain. And I think people like Tim Russert and the others, who gave this guy such a free ride and all the media, they're the ones to be shot, not Karl Rove. >>>>snip


And I really—I tell you, Republicans are running for cover. They should be out attacking Joe Wilson. We should throw this back at them with all the nonsense that has been said about George Bush and all the lies that have come out.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000978394
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:15 PM
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1. rethugs are metling .... it's like "water on their witch" (Rove)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:15 PM
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2. Note to GOP: Targeting the media is backfiring on you...
So, keep up the good work.

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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:17 PM
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4. LOL, it certainly is. eom
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:28 PM
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13. If we concentrate on going after Rove, not going after Judith Miller...
and as long as at least some of us are on Judith Miller's side, this will all work out for us.

The GOP expected to portray Judith Miller as being martyred by the left-wing Democrats.

Instead, we're all attacking Karl Rove. Some of us are going after Miller, but others are defending her.

But we're all after Rove.

So, everyone... keep agreeing to disagree but please also agree to keep it civil.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:15 PM
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3. These are the republican talking points from the RNC
They picked on the wrong guy, Joe Wilson, and they are going to get burnt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:18 PM
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5. I thought terrorists were the enemy not the media and judges
For people who are suppose to be protecting our national security they sure can't even figure out who the real enemy is...

GOP plays politics with our national security - both physical and economic security.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:31 PM
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16. And what about gay marriage, obscenity, and steroids in pro-baseball?
I'm glad the GOP has their priorities straight.

Every morning when I wake-up I'm afraid Osama bin Laden is going to get gay married and broadcast a naked female nipple for 1/30th of a second on television and then send steroid-crazed baseball players after me.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:18 PM
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6. They're now talking about SHOOTING the MEDIA?
OMG. They're standing on the edge of insanity, and they're losing their footing. That is one of the most bizarre statements I've read.

And they call the left crazy because some of us theorized that journalists were deliberately targeted in the War on Iraq. Uh-huh ...
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:27 PM
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12. They are LOSING IT!
And I'm having a great time sitting back and watching the fun :popcorn: :rofl:
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:18 PM
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7. Lord
What a lot of hysterical babbling! It's hard to know what he's actually saying. What are all these lies that have come out, I wonder?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:19 PM
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39. That's quite the good question there. Just what ARE all these "lies"
that Joseph Wilson has told?
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:24 PM
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8. There is a real tangible feel
of desperation in all these denials, like the WSJ editorial, the Talking Points from Mehlman, the Lindsey Graham "Shut up!"...

They're not really taking the time to think through what they're saying, and it's showing - odd when you think they had two years to plan their defense.

Can you say, "Hubris?" They never thought they'd get caught.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:28 PM
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40. Welcome to DU!
Glad to know you're with us! Now, roll up yer sleeves...
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:24 PM
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9. Methinks Rep. Peter King has gone mental. He's been rather testy
as of late, going so far as to getting personal with constituents who ask questions and don't lick his shoes:

Links:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=169x3712

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1903328


:evilfrown:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:27 PM
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11. Yes he is definitely out there and a stauch Rove supporter
http://rdrradio.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/5/13147/65879

Also another letter to his constituent on Kos
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:30 PM
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15. Agreed.
I've seen and heard some wacky things from him in the past, but shooting someone in the media? That's over the top, even for king.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:56 PM
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28. I Thought The Exact Same Thing
I flashed to Wayne's World and thought "Are you mental?" when i read King's comments!

The Professor
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:27 PM
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10. So the Republicanazis approve of TREASON now, eh?
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 01:27 PM by Gay Green
I swear, if we EVER get a WMD blown up by terrorists on US soil, we should NOT hesitate to rub their faces in this shit!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

:grr: :grr: :grr:

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

(edit: sp)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:29 PM
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14. Maybe they are attacking Karl because he
committed a crime Joe. Mr. Wilson did not commit a crime, although he did uncover one from the administration. This is where all of this stems from, Joe Wilson finding no evidence of yellow cake being purchased by Saddam. Get it right or shut the f**ck up....
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:33 PM
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17. Wow, he's gone off the rails
I always thought he was just a character, but that is insane. Wilson never said Cheney sent him. He said that he was told by the CIA guys that Cheney's office wanted a report on the situation. This is just wacked out.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:36 PM
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18. And he had the nerve to lecture callers on C-SPAN yesterday
Telling them they need to raise the level of discourse. Well, I'll assume he's a "do as I say" kind of guy.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:39 PM
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21. they need to raise the level of discourse...I guess that means from a
22 to a 44 caliber
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:38 PM
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19. WILSON NEVER SAID THE VP RECOMMENDED HIM!!!!!!!!!
THIS BOLDFACED LIE IS THE WHOLE BASIS OF THEIR SPIN, CAN ANYONE SHOW ME ANYWHERE WHERE WILSON SAID CHENEY SENT HIM TO NIGER?????????????????

IM GETTING PISSED AT ALL THESE IDIOTS CLAIMING THIS BULLSHIT :grr: :grr: :grr:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:39 PM
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20. Shot?!? Jeez louise. The hate the RWers possess is unreal.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:40 PM
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22. Somebody should send this little quote to Russert, perhaps he will be
angry enough to talk publicly about Rove's 'fair game' comment. Make the press angry enough, Bushco. and they too will start biting back, they already have started.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:42 PM
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great idea
Maybe a duel of words, zell miller style.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:49 PM
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25. See My Post Below. Should I Send it to Russert?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:42 PM
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42. sent mine off.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:42 PM
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23. This Rep. King said something somewhat inflamatory a couple of weeks
ago in the news, I can't remember what it is. Anybody know? I think it might have been in response to KKKarl's liberal bashing statements at that dinner he spoke at.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:55 PM
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26. An email from King to a liberal in his district(KKKarl's lib bashing)
http://rdrradio.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/5/13147/65879

Dear (my name):

I am in receipt of your June 23rd e-mail and disagree in toto with your accusations regarding Karl Rove's speech.

If you are capable of such indignant outrage, I am surprised you didn't contact me to express your disgust when Senator Durbin scandalously attempted to juxtapose Guantanamo with Hitler and Stalin.

What Karl Rove did do was deliver a speech which was politically incorrect but entirely factual. He pointed out inter alia that in the immediate aftermath of the September 11th attacks a number of prominent liberals such as MoveOn.org urged "moderation and restraint" in response to the terrorist attacks rather than "war, violence or destruction." Even more egregious was Michael Moore whose "Fahrenheit 9/11" film hypothesized that the war against Afghanistan resulted from collusion between President Bush and the oil industry.

I have been in politics long enough to know that wacko elements are always attempting to attach themselves to our main political parties. This only becomes significant when the political party in question fails to reject that fringe element or, even worse, accepts its support. Responsible political leaders are expected to act quickly and decisively. For instance, in 1948, Harry Truman risked reelection but did the right thing by severing all connections with Henry Wallace and the pro-communists in the Progressive Party. Similarly, in 1962, the conservative movement led by William F. Buckley, Jr. denounced Robert Welch and the John Birch Society.

Considering the horror of 9/11, I would have expected today's Democrats to emulate Harry Truman. Instead, Democratic leaders such as harry Reid, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin actually speak at MoveOn rallies, giving encouragement and support to this fringe movement. ("We are depending on you" said Harry Reid; "MoveOn.org, you're changing America for the better," added Senator Durbin.) Democratic candidates have also accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from MoveOn.org's PAC. As for Michael Moore, the Democrats gave him a seat of honor at their national convention-- in a luxury box next to President Carter. (As a New Yorker weren't you outraged that a man who had so shamefully defiled 9/11 was treated with such respect and dignity by the Democratic leaders?) Then, or course there was Howard Dean, the National Chairman of the Democratic Party, saying he didn't want to "prejudge" Bin Laden's guilt prior to a "jury trial."

What all of this means is that too many Democrats, in their zeal to bring down President Bush, are aligning themselves with the most radical left-wing fringe elements and ignoring the damage this could do to our country in time of war. This is why Democrats such as Ed Koch supported President Bush for reelection because he did not believe Democratic leaders "had the stomach" to effectively fight terrorism.

Karl Rove did not challenge the patriotism of liberals. He questioned their judgment and their ability to do what has to be done to win a long and difficult war that must be fought in many place and in many ways.

Democrats should welcome Karl Rove's speech as a clarion call to save their party from the left-wing fringe elements. If they do, perhaps in the future Democrats will not again stand mute when their leaders such as Senator Durbin shamefully slander.

Two years ago Andrew Cuomo wrote that Democrats "handled 9/11 like it was a highway bill instead of a matter of people's lives. We fumbled the seminal movement of our lives- the terrorist attacks of 9/11. The President exemplified leadership at a time when America was desperate for a leader. He deserves credit, as to Congressional Republicans, for recognizing the challenge of 9/11 and rising to it."

The time has come for you to accept the challenge and acknowledge that Karl Rove is right. By doing so, you will save your party, and, much more importantly, your country.

Very truly yous,

PETER T. KING Member of Congress

P.S. I would suggest that you broaden your horizons and read something besides the New York Times.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:03 PM
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30. Yes, but Thom Hartman is on now talking about King. He was the one
that Alexandra Pelosi captured on tape saying (in reference to the Nov. election) that 'it's all over except the counting, and we'll take care of the counting.' Please don't STFU though Representative King, perhaps your new odious comments, about SHOOTING reporters will make those same reporters want to take a trip down memory lane and start repeating some of your other choice comments. Maybe you don't want to call attention to some of those, but then if you were disgusting enough to say that reporters should be shot, I guess anything goes huh? These are the people 'defending our freedoms' folks.

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:06 PM
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31. The press should be angry at this statement
The media is threaten with physical violence
by a government representative.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:47 PM
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24. Isn't Inciting Violence a CRIME??!!
"Hey Tim Russert, a Republican Representative, elected by the people in his district, a representative of thousands of Americans, a man who strolls the hollowed chambers of our capitol...HAS JUST SUGGESTED YOU SHOULD BE SHOT!!!"

"Tim, are you afraid? Tim, are you afraid for your family? Well, if you are, then I suggest you STOP CARRYING WATER FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION."

"Are you going to press charges Tim?" "Are you going to demand Rep King apologize?" "Are you going to demand that Rep King resign his congressional seat?"

Inquiring minds want to know Tim.

"Are you a man who cares about the safety of his family, and himself?", or "Are you a man who will tell us all 'giddily' how manly President Bush looked in his flight suit"?

Big Russ is watching you!!!

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:55 PM
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27. Just tone it down a little like you are truly worried about his safety
Because someone might take it to heart.

You are worried, King scared you, can Russ make me feel better with a comment on someone threaten him, you respect Russ etc..:sarcasm: for telling and getting to the truth
then send it with the news source.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:54 PM
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37. I think the direct quote from King in all it's reprehensible splendor will
be enough to tick Russert off, he already must know he's been a chump for this administration. The kicker will be, when King's remarks are widely reported (if they are) and the administration does not repudiate them. Then, perhaps, we will have Mr. Potatohead's knickers in a whirl and he will remind the public that Karl said Valerie Plame was 'fair game'. BTW, I read somewhere that Russert had already testified in front of the grand jury on this case, so maybe the 'fair game' quote by Rove is already on the record with them. That would be wunderbar.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:00 PM
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29. Phil Hartman just mention this on his show, now!!!!!!!!
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:07 PM
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32. "The President exemplified leadership"
I didnt know reading My Pet goat was "exempliying leadership"

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:12 PM
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33. The lunatics are running the asylum
Who are THESE people? A representive from New York? I just go nuts reading this stuff day after day afer day. No accountablity. Lies after lies. Go after Wilson? He didn't do a goddamn thing you fucking LOON piece of shit idiotic progandistic dangerous quasi-human being but tell the truth. He is not the enemy. God..get me out of this nightmare..every day..black is white..peace is war. It's a fucking crazy house.

ALL THE LIES THAT HAVE COME OUT. They literally will tell you it's sunny when the rain is soaking you.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:21 PM
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35. freedom isn't free, war is not war, hate is not hating
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:13 PM
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34. It was suggested that many call his office and the media
Just another scandal to bring to the media and Rove's name is mention again.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:38 PM
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36. Randi taking up this story also
cool
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:57 PM
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38. incitement to violence
This is akin to King Henry II saying: "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" in regards to soon-to-be-murdered Archbishop (?)Thomas Becket. Or more recently, the Randall Terry, et al provoked bombings of women's health clinics & murder of doctors.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:33 PM
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41. I think they should shoot fascist enablers duping the country...
wasn't there a war fought in the 1940's somewhere that centered on killing these type of people?
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