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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 06:59 PM
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It seems that the UK is treating these bombings as a crime.
What wimps. Why aren't they just bombing a Third World country or something? :sarcasm:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:01 PM
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1. Sadly, we ARE.
And we started two years ago.

But the majority of Britons aren't very happy about it.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:02 PM
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2. The British have a proud tradition and they are keeping to it.
Postwar Europe has learned alot and they know that the best route to justice is deal with those who ACTUALLY commit the crime. Now in Bushmerica, you just find some "brown people" with oil and kill em' off,
"Texas Style"
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:24 PM
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7. Proud tradition?
The last time people set off bombs in London the Brits responded by setting up internment camps, a torture facility at Castlereagh, seding the SAS to execute suspects and using paramilitary forces to kill lawyers in front of their families - Pat Finucane and Rosemary Nelson - amongst other things.

You will recall that the UK was castigated at European Court of Justice for its response to such bombings.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:10 PM
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17. disregard this post (#2).
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 10:10 PM by AX10
The British are handling THIS CASE properly, only!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:02 PM
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3. UK
Just what we should have done with Sept 11th, as we were NOT
attacked, we were hijacked, literally.



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ScotTissue Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:05 PM
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4. They can't really invade Leeds.
So they have to arrest people there. Evidently, these bombers were carrying British passports.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:56 PM
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15. Now there's a bumper sticker...
"I Support our troops in Leeds."
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:12 PM
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5. And you know what the really sad thing is?
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 07:14 PM by Enraged_Ape
The UK will find all of the (surviving) people involved in these bombings, and they will put them on trial, and they will put them away for the rest of their lives, and those people will never commit another terrorist act again.

Sort of like the first World Trade Center bombing, which was also treated like a law enforcement matter, with the appropriate parties brought to relatively swift justice (and under Bill Clinton, no less!) and with all of the protections that the law allows.

Now contrast that with the perpetrators of 9-11, who are still free, at large, and a serious danger to us...after four freaking years and a multi-hundred-billion-dollar war in a country that had nothing to do with the crime in the first place.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:26 PM
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8. Or
they will find people who DIDN'T do the bombings but are convieniently swarthy, fake the evidence, torture them into confessing and then let them out begrudgingly a decade later when international pressure becomes too much.

Ever heard of the Birmingham Six or Guildford Four?
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:35 PM
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12. Oh, I think the Brits already have the number for these guys...
...and they do not fit the Washington, D.C., script. I'm pretty sure that is why they are trying to keep this investigation very quiet. I also think they very much want to find and punish the actual people responsible, NOT the ones Karl Rove wants to arrest for "the official White House story". The look on Tony Blair's face at the press conference the other day told me that he's going to win this one for Queen and country. He knows his very livelihood depends on it.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:04 PM
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16. Perhaps
Coming from the descendents of transported convicts who has lived in the north of Ireland, I find the term of "British justice" to be a contradiction in terms much of the time.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:20 PM
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18. I just have a hinky feeling about this whole case
Although I understand where you're coming from, I think that this investigation is going to surprise you. I have a strong feeling that the Brits are going to actually solve this case lock, stock, and barrel. And they're going to leave egg on the Monkey King's face in the process. Just you wait and see. I think Blair has something up his sleeve, and he is more than happy to play it.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:24 AM
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19. I do as well
But let's not forget the failings of British justice in terror related cases either ...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:29 PM
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9. Exactly! We lived in the UK; they do excellent police work...
and they are not likely to waste time, money and lives attacking a random foreign country in response to this. (I'll never understand why Blair joined Bush in his madness.)

I have a feeling the Brits will, unlike Bush, bring these people to justice.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:31 PM
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10. Of course
But as someone else pointed this is Bush world and that's sooo 90's.

:sarcasm:

But seriously Bush just did everything wrong and look at the mess he caused in today's world.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:17 PM
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6. There Are No Beatable 3rd World Countries Left, We Got 'Em All
Tony wasn't quick enough.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:54 PM
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13. We got the ones with good minerals, anyway.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:32 PM
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11. Most rational countries would do that. Why don't we investigate 9-11?
What on earth did we carpet bomb Afghanistan for? We don't have the slightest clue who did 9-11.
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