I'm Furious, But Terribly Confused.... I Would Like To Know How It Is That

[ChiciB1]

MSM just keeps on IGNORING the really important stuff?? As time goes by and as EVERY story that is derogatory of The Corrupt Ones get little or no coverage, how can this still be happening???

Is it just laziness or is it FEAR??? I just don't buy this stuff that "Oh, it's old news, etc", there MUST be something going on.

The Repukes say AWFUL thing about Dean, The Democrats and anyone they want to, yet we NEVER see it covered like we see the "Durbin" thing covered. I've never seen anything like this.

Sure there are people reporting, but it's mostly "alternative" and NEVER gets much play. I don't even watch CNN anymore because I KNOW it's going to be crap!

I just want to know HOW The Fourth Estate can be so OBNOXIOUS! They say they give the public what they want, but that's a LIE! We've been asking about DSM for such a long time now, and STILL we are getting just a trickle! It's mind boggling!

Is it really just a simple thing like money????? I know there are Democrats who have money too, so that doesn't seem to work.

[ReadTomPaine]

1. The word, my friend, is "complicit" n/t

[NorCalDem]

3. and 'profit'

but the ratings are dropping, and that might help. Still, 'complicit' is a good way of stating the fact.

[dolo amber]

2. Of course it's money

Always follow the money. Who owns the media? Big Business. And who owns Big Business....?

Republicans.

[stepnw1f]

4. Essentially It Will Bring the Whole Industry to Its Knees.

More and more the truth is found on the internet and through other literary sources, and people are scratchin' their heads wondering why....

it can't last forever.

[ChiciB1]

6. But It's Soooooooooo Pervasive!!

Each day I LOOK for something to break, and every day it comes up ZILCH for the most part.

Hey, I'm no spring chicken, I'm a Boomer so it's a real shocker to me that it's taking sooooooooo very very long!

Something has gotta break, there's just tooooooo much of it!

[Stinky The Clown]

5. Why do they ignore us?

Cuz we have nothing to say that they wanna hear.

We go all wonkish. Their eyes glaze over.

You want news coverage? Give 'em some news to cover.

Listen to what Howard Dean says. Remember White Christian Party? Remember No-work Republicans?

Remember Durbin's original Nazi staement?

That's news.

That gets covered.

Then some of us apologize.

And THAT gets covered.

It was all good.

Until the apologies.

[ChiciB1]

9. Dean Didn't Apologize!!

And what about DSM????

[Stinky The Clown]

14. I didn't say Dean apologized

Don't be so sensitive. I said "Then some of us apologize." Which was general enough to cover the guilty but exclusive enough to ignore the good guys.

It also could be taken to mean that **you** apologize ... after all, you're 'some of us', aren't you? BUt I don't think you're an apologizer. It could also have included me ... and I know I wouldn't apologize.

[ChiciB1]

28. Oh, I Didn't Take Offense....

I felt you were referring to Durbin. I was just saying that there are those who have stood their ground. However, they still get lambasted!

It is sick though. It just seems to me that there has to be some out there who would actually SEE that some of this derogatory news could be beneficial to a career. Perhaps I'm really asking if there is actually something more sinister going on, such as SUPPRESSION! And how it is that no one breaks ranks.

[TomClash]

7. It's class consciousness

When the talking head "journalists" make $1m+ per year are they really going to be discussing anything that smacks of change?

This Administration quite adroitly pressures the media into compliance. A call goes to the President of CNN - the stories are all of a sudden less negative. You want to write and speak critically? They deny you access - now ABC gets the exclusive interview, the tip, the inside scoop - and you don't.

[ChiciB1]

11. So Basically All Journalists Have No Morals....

It's only the money. In a country of 270 million people, and with many crying out very loud, it seems they would actually be putting themselves in a "cat-bird" seat by "breaking the story"!

This is what is so puzzling to me. It just seems that someone would want to be going for the brass ring. I mean it's THERE!

[TomClash]

61. You're first post was right too

Anyone who has ever dealt with journalists knows as a profession they are basically pretty lazy. They don't want to break stories - they want to stories given to them.

[Cleita]

8. I think they are afraid. I'm going out on a limb here

but I think Chandra Levy was murdered to smear Gary Condit. The fact that it was played over and over again on the MSM had the effect that was intended to intimidate the rest of the Democrats who might have something to hide.

Now on the other side of the coin my Republican Rep. Bill Thomas, chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, has been rumored to have had an affair with a health care lobbyist for the pharmaceutical companies some of his heaviest contributors.

Now I think that is a scandal that should be looked into because it could compromise his position in moving legislation favorable to the health care industry through while blocking any meaningful legislation for national health care. Yet, you never hear about it on the MSM.

[Glenda]

17. I was thinking this too, and said it to my friend just yesterday ...

"but I think Chandra Levy was murdered to smear Gary Condit."

Are we being paranoid, or are we correct?

[Cleita]

23. With only circumstantial hunches, we could be accused

of being paranoid, but I think we are correct. Her disappearance and then the finding of her bones, was it a year later, seems pretty slick to this day. I mean the area had been combed thoroughly before and there was no body, but the bones appear at a much later date very conveniently I might add and it closes the mystery. Of course by this time Condit is ruined, toast. I haven't heard anything since then, like they have identified some suspects, maybe? It's just gone. No one knows who killed her and no one is looking.

[Paranoid Pessimist]

26. These days, paranoid usually is correct n/t

[sendero]

64. I dunno..

... I find that highly unlikely. If that were the intent, why not literally frame him? I wouldn't have been that hard to do.

I think I recall that the dude who did is was a known sex offender.

Sometimes things just happen without the assistance of a conspiracy.

[HuskiesHowls]

10. Well, when there is only a small handful of companies

that own most of the commercial radio stations in the US, and many of them also own the television stations, there aren't many new ideas coming across. Its known as no competition, and no fairness doctrine, either.

Its like with gas stations. When there were 50 (or so) companies selling gas, there was competition and prices were low. With 5 companies owning something like 95% of the distribution now, gas prices go up for no known reason. Lack of competition.

[Just Me]

12. Ignore the corporate-human-sucking media. Keep plugging for the people.

Walk away from those who betray us. Walk in the peoples' path.

Don't fret,...just walk!!!!

[stanwyck]

13. We're two nations

now. Those that read a variety of sources, including the foreign press, and those that listen to hate-radio or watch O'Reilly and Faux. Where I work is a little microcasm of America. The liberals gather and discuss the DSM, the PNAC, The Carlyle Group, Gitmo, any number of issues. Conservatives wander in but they can't discuss...they just don't know what we're talking about. Cause Rush didn't cover the controversary in Florida over offshore drilling. Or why many oppose Bolton's nomination to the U.N.
We were laughing today (through our tears) about Bush's "I think about Iraq EVERY SINGLE DAY." The conservatives didn't know what we were talking about...they don't even watch Bush. (can't blame them there -- it's painful).
There is no general shared base of knowledge. (except for Michael Jackson and missing white girls). It's what we read vs. what they hear from the hate-radio guys. It's like we're reading Shakespeare and Milton and they're reading Family Circus cartoons. There just isn't much overlap in knowledge.

[ChiciB1]

18. I CAN Relate To Your Story....

I encounter the same thing, but I still wonder why the people who are SUPPOSED to KEEP us INFORMED are doing such a lousy job.

I talk to people ALL the time, because that's what I do.... inform, and I see many of them are so out of touch. I used to think it was because of the "rat race, hurried lifestyle" we live in. But it's NOT really that. The NEWS is there.... it's just not being REPORTED!

Why are so many simply looking the other way. Complicit Cabal??? As I said before it's too DAMN PERVASIVE! And because so much is ignored, it's almost like a conspiracy of sorts, but that's just too bizarre. Is it a Pied Piper Syndrome???

If so, then I see very little intelligence, curiosity or investigating. Therefor, we revert back to just collecting a paycheck and hoping maybe we turn up on some news show to spew some puffy nonsense. I find the magnitude of this attitude almost too hard to believe. This then means, it's simplistic laziness! That's a hard pill to swallow!

[Burried News]

67. Sometimes you have to trust your feelings.

Ever watch a boxing match that you just knew was fixed?
Or some other sporting event where you knew the fix was in?
Was Durbin crying because he was hurt or because he could be hurt and this was the only way he could tell us and avoid it (subconciously found a way out of his dilemma)? Sorry to be somewhat cryptic but that's the way life is - there are no multiple choice questions that are worth anything. There is a dark side, you find it (and control it) with your feelings AND your reason. Both are equally important.

[Auntie Bush]

24. We're reading the News papers and their reading the Funny papers.

[bpilgrim]

15. the establishment buy into the CARTOON WORLD VIEW

and they have been handsomely rewarded for doing so. for them (M$MWs) it makes $EN$E

of course they are worried (terrified) who do you think 911, ANTHRAX, and the TERROR ALERTS are primarily aimed at, THEM.

:hi:

peace

[Eloriel]

16. Your basic problem is that YOU think their mission is one thing

and in reality it's another. I don't know for sure when it became the other (the one that's NOT called informing the people, or fulfilling the people's right to know), but it did.

And btw, we ought to stop calling them MSM. They're CORPORATE Media, all of our most popular media owned by a small handful of corporations.

Anyway, their actual mission is to protect and preserve and promote the Official Myths and Big Lies.

Believe it. It's true. It's not written anywhere, of course, (that we are going to be able to find out), but all you have to do is observe them in action to come to this inescapable conclusion.

[bpilgrim]

20. the ESTABLISHMENT media have ALWAYS been about protecting the elite

they just haven't had such a hard case to prop up :evilgrin:

:hi: Eloriel

peace

[ChiciB1]

21. I Think Their Mission Is One Thing????

Wasn't that WHY The Fourth Estate was established??

It's one thing that Congress and the Executive are so corrupt and sit on their duffs, but quite another when the "keeper at the gate" is ALWAYS asleep.

Oh well, letting off steam here, but it doesn't float my boat!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. Read the following link on Operation Mockingbird, and then tell me....

...that you don't understand what the mainstream media is doing:

Operation Mockingbird: CIA Media Manipulation
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html>

QUOTE:

Starting in the early days of the Cold War (late 40's), the CIA began a secret project called Operation Mockingbird, with the intent of buying influence behind the scenes at major media outlets and putting reporters on the CIA payroll, which has proven to be a stunning ongoing success. The CIA effort to recruit American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda, was headed up by Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, and Philip Graham (publisher of The Washington Post). Wisner had taken Graham under his wing to direct the program code-named Operation Mockingbird and both have presumably committed suicide.

Media assets will eventually include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International (UPI), Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service, etc. and 400 journalists, who have secretly carried out assignments according to documents on file at CIA headquarters, from intelligence-gathering to serving as go-betweens. The CIA had infiltrated the nation's businesses, media, and universities with tens of thousands of on-call operatives by the 1950's. CIA Director Dulles had staffed the CIA almost exclusively with Ivy League graduates, especially from Yale with figures like George Herbert Walker Bush from the "Skull and Crossbones" Society.

Many Americans still insist or persist in believing that we have a free press, while getting most of their news from state-controlled television, under the misconception that reporters are meant to serve the public. Reporters are paid employees and serve the media owners, who usually cower when challenged by advertisers or major government figures. Robert Parry reported the first breaking stories about Iran-Contra for Associated Press that were largely ignored by the press and congress, then moving to Newsweek he witnessed a retraction of a true story for political reasons. In 'Fooling America: A Talk by Robert Parry' he said, "The people who succeeded and did well were those who didn't stand up, who didn't write the big stories, who looked the other way when history was happening in front of them, and went along either consciously or just by cowardice with the deception of the American people."

[ChiciB1]

44. Very Interesting... Depressing Too!

But I HAVE seen news reporting that far exceeds what we are being spoon fed today!

But they did get Rather didn't they? Took a LONG time though. I still think it's different today in some way. Yes, media is controlled, but I've just never seen it this bad.

Maybe it's just money and technology, no matter.... IT SUCKS!

[tx_dem41]

19. They cover what people want to watch.

Sadly, its called business. People don't have the intelligence or attention span to follow any story with even the slightest requirement for thinking hard.

[bpilgrim]

22. that is what the elite have always said about weTHEpeople

they also thought we could never learn how to read, waaaaaaaaaay back in the day, therefore public education would be a WASTE of time.

since when do they ask us what we want to see? :shrug:

i think Michael Moore but that myth to bed with all the cash he earned on a DOCUMENTARY :hi:

peace

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that for a second.

[tx_dem41]

32. Unlike most DUers, I don't worship at the ...

"BFEE is all powerful" altar. I think he's incompetent. In fact, I know it. But, ya'll keep worshipping them, since it makes you happy.

[bpilgrim]

35. um...

we are talking bout the M$MWs and no one is 'worshiping' anything here just discussing current affairs.

fyi

peace

[tx_dem41]

41. You are mistaking the few thousand regular posters at DU....

for "we the people". Although, you might find it distastedful, Bpil, you are the elite when it comes to current affairs and politics. We, at DU, do not represent "We the People" one single bit, although we would love to think it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

48. I'm not sure where that response came from, but if it makes....

...YOU happy, you just keep right on doing it.

Explain a few things to me since you believe the BFEE to be "incompetent":

1. Who currently controls the Executive Branch of the US?

2. Who controls the Judicial Branch of the US?

3. Who controls the Legislative Branch of the US?

4. Who currently controls the US military?

5. Who currently controls he financial centers of the US?

6. Who controls the voting process in the US?

7. Who controls what is reported in the US mainstream media by virtue of ownership by major corporations that also back the BFEE?

"Worship them"?? No, I absolutely hate them for what they've done to this country, and the lives they've wasted in an illegal and immoral invasion and occupation of another sovereign nation.

"He" may very well be as "incompetent" as they come, but the folks that have finally gained control of this country have been playing this game for a long, long time.

After you read my response and answer my questions, feel free to come back with another smart-aleck remark.

[tx_dem41]

49. Keep quaking with fear then.

Its your right.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

52. I'm just stating facts....

...I'm sorry that you're too delusional to understand what I'm telling you.

But, it's your right to be delusional.

One more thing, stating facts is not even close to "quaking with fear" but I'm not sure you would understand that either.

But, it's your right to lack critical thinking skills.

[sandnsea]

60. Politicians have ALWAYS "owned" media outlets

Various newspapers have always been favorable to one party or other, one candidate or other. Has nothing to do with what the people want, has to do with the politics of the newspaper publisher and strength of the party in the area. It's moved to radio and tv, and nationally. Not much in this country is truly a product of markets. Brainwashing, er, advertising, has as much to do with your belief that the media responds to the market as it does with a kid's belief that McDonalds makes good hamburgers.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. The media is owned by Herr Busch's corporate supporters. Nuff said.

[spanone]

29. It's called Collusion. Conspiracy. Fascism. Many names.

[ChiciB1]

33. Well It's A Sad State Of Affairs...

All the names may apply, but HOW & WHY are they able to keep getting away with it??

This is not Democracy, it's SUPPRESSION! Said that before.

[lostnfound]

54. The HOW.

The Brass Check -- Upton Sinclair.
or Into the Buzzsaw.

To pay their bills and lifestyles, the key figures in the media want to keep their salaries, don't want to risk being shown the door like Dan Rather or Bill Moyer or many others. And they wouldn't be in those positions to begin with if they were the type who wrote big exposes on the system.

Be the first to step out of line and your foot get shot.

Shot by: the administration. your advertisers. your top executives. your fellow media.

Step out of line and you may find yourself the focal point of a smear campaign or personal attacks.

And it's fascism, because there are numerous personal connections among the corporate/political elite that reinforce the code that they must stay on the money team.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

31. Buy a shortwave radio.

Buy a shortwave radio.

Big shoutout to RadioIntel for the link.

Technological shutdowns as tools of oppression

>>
....
But on the evening of 23 April, people began having difficulty connecting to the Internet. Eventually, only international organisations and embassies using satellite links could access the Internet.

On voting day, many people called private radio stations alleging cases of electoral fraud, such as ballot box stuffing and multiple voting.

Then came another surprise: the telephone system went down, and for four days a few international incoming calls were all that came through.

In the days immediately after the election, most private FM radio stations were suspended or allowed to broadcast music only, having been forbidden to cover the election.

News was available only through the official media or the international media on shortwave radio. The country's borders were closed. Officially, national security was cited as the reason for these measures.
....
<<

[American Tragedy]

34. It is surreal and frightening. Like they're living in a different reality.

I can't bear to watch the news anymore. I used to think it was funny, but not anymore.

[ChiciB1]

37. Not Funny, Certainly Not Funny!

Very Scary though.

Thanks for your thoughts... but I'm still pretty pissed about it. This shouldn't be happening in such a massive way. Not ducking anyone, but it's getting late here in Fl and I have an early appointment.

[seabeyond]

36. i read some person today saying they know they can say

whatever about a dem. it is good show, and they know they will get away with it. they also know they will earn a couple points with repugs, and if ever pointed at for being liberal media tehy can say uh uh. see i harped on this with dems

i think the big part of the writing is they know they can say whatever they want about a democrat, so they do. like a bunch of kids that know they wont be held accountable, they get to be as ugly and nasty as they want

what they arent getting, so many of us, have turned off news. they are losing doing this. they just dont get it

[ChiciB1]

40. I'm Waiting For The Ratings To Sink!!!

CNN must be feeling something by now! I know many don't watch anymore.... but still???

[Burried News]

38. Reach inside, what are your worst suspicions about the MSM?

now you have the truth about what is happening.
Don't forget to ask how is the FEAR put there, and by whom.

[ChiciB1]

42. Okay Then It Is Suppression!

And then it's DICTATORSHIP! Something we've all mentioned a time or two perhaps as a thought. But this is basic reality now!

ICE COLD FEAR! Just the way I want to live!

Well, we'll just have to keep on carping and maybe in time we'll bust the bubble. I just want it YESTERDAY!

[American Tragedy]

51. It's a combination of greed and moral cowardice.

I would pay dearly for the opportunity to stand up before the National Press Club and tell them what scum they are. I remember how I threw things at the television and nearly wept in rage, as I watched countless interviews in which journalists deliberately dodged asking the most obvious and relevant questions regarding the profoundly dubious case for going to war. There is no excuse for that. None.

There are times when one's integrity is more important than wealth and their career. I would gladly cast aside my job if it meant exposing the truth and possibly saving lives, and I'm not nearly as financially secure as these journalists are.

How is it that people don't care? What could possibly be more important?

[Devlzown]

39. I seldom watch news on tv.

They aren't reporting news as a service to the American people. It's all about influencing public opinion and those opinions all turn out to be the wrong ones.

[shanti]

43. follow the money trail

every time.

[nonconformist]

45. Follow the money.

The media is corporate-owned. Corporations that have a big stake in who is in power.

The only thing that comes second to lining their pockets with the tax breaks and other perks that come with who is in power is ratings.

Sensational stories and entertainment-styled news generate bigger ratings. Big ratings = more ad revenue.

[Athame]

46. Yes, it's money, but not the money you're talking about

It isn't ratings or ad revenue, it's defense contracts and access to power, or rather, kingmaking. Well, it might be ad revenue indirectly, in that the largest advertisers are big pharma, and keeping BFEE in power is good for pharma and also for ADM, Monsanto, and energy companies. They don't care much about ratings, except as a way to tell how the masses are reacting to the message, so it can be tweaked to fit. Controlling the message is what it's about. So, before the invasion, massive protests both here and abroad were basically ignored or at most trivialized to nothing. Same thing during the election campaigns. Did you see much about the NYC protests or read much about them in the papers? No. Did they cover the election anomalies? No. How about the 9-11 Truth movement? Even the juicy gossip of Jeff Gannon got almost no coverage except to belittle the Internet. And THAT is the proof. That story was the epitome of ratings nirvana, but it was studiously ignored.

Only online can you get a glimmer of reality by sifting, reading, arguing, reading more...It's HARD WORK to get oneself informed these days. DU rocks as a news source because of the free-wheeling arguments and the insistence on sources and the critical feedback about sources and the wide-ranging topics (unless it's Terri Schiavo or Michael Jackson week--nobody's perfect).

[ailsagirl]

47. Morford wrote an excellent article about this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3918029

Or go straight to the article:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/06/22/notes062205.DTL

[cosmicdot]

50. Arianna Huffington's 6/22/05 commentary re 'the news'

via email dated June 22, 2005
````````````````````````````````


Just Say Noruba

By Arianna Huffington


~snip~

If you were to get your news only from television, you'd think the top issue facing our country right now is an 18-year-old girl named Natalee who went missing in Aruba. Every time one of these stories comes up, like, say, Michael Jackson, when it's finally over I think, what a relief, now we can get back to real news. But we never do. When one of these big league non-stories ends, they just call up a new one from the minors . . . and off they go with another round of breathless reporting. Anything to not have to actually report actual news.

Here are the number of news segments that mention these stories: (from a search of the main news networks' transcripts from May 1-June 20).

-- ABC News: "Downing Street Memo": 0 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 42 segments; "Michael Jackson": 121 segments.

-- CBS News: "Downing Street Memo": 0 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 70 segments; "Michael Jackson": 235 segments.

-- NBC News: "Downing Street Memo": 6 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 62 segments; "Michael Jackson": 109 segments.

-- CNN: "Downing Street Memo": 30 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 294 segments; "Michael Jackson": 633 segments.

-- Fox News: "Downing Street Memo": 10 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 148 segments; Michael Jackson": 286 segments.

-- MSNBC: "Downing Street Memo": 10 segments; "Natalee Holloway": 30 segments; "Michael Jackson": 106 segments.

~snip~


http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/index.php

I began turning corporate media off as a result of the OJ media circus (not counting avoiding Reagan's mug and voice). The OJ trial coverage began @ June 12, 1994, and ended @ October 2, 1995. 24/7. I wonder what the good ol'boys did during that distraction?

[OxQQme]

55. So, do you all think that General Electric and

Westinghouse make all their moola from selling stoves, fridges, and light bulbs.
Weaponry and the engines to deliver same are the stock in trade. Paid for out of our pockets !!!!
Are all the employees of these companies republicans?

[Burried News]

66. Thanks for posting, great article, data spot on

[OneBlueSky]

53. there IS no tv news anymore . . . it's all infotainment . . .

no different than Ron Popel hawking the George Foreman Grill . . . only the product and the pitchmen are changed . . .

[NuttyFluffers]

56. they are criminally complicit in the death of 1700+ citizens...

and they don't want to get caught. they are afraid of the hague. and they should be. so they are trying to make you and others forgive and forget.

fuck that. this time, no forgiveness, no forgetting. mo-fo's goin' down.

[American Tragedy]

58. Sorry, but they are not afraid of The Hague.

Nor is the administration. Why would they be?

Even if they see fit to lay down charges, what exactly is the ICC going to do to enforce it? Annihilate the American military, capture the leadership, and occupy North America? Do you really think that the member nations are going to plunge themselves into a Third World War, virtually demolishing the world economy on which they also thrive, just to nail Bush and some stupid reporters? The record for war crimes prosecution certainly suggests otherwise.

Just injecting a little realism into the thread.

[NuttyFluffers]

65. that's what every empire said before the fall.

"nobody will raise against us. we are invincible."

at the end of WWII the bastards went to the hague. when this finally all plays out, and i expect a few more wars and a guaranteed collapse of american empire, the broken remains will be carted off to be tried. by the path now laid, it is inescapable.

[specimenfred1984]

57. Propaganda, It Has a History Here in the U.S.

It started back in the early days of industrialism with anti-union rhetoric.

It flourished in Nazi Germany.

It's happening here, now.

Read a few books on propaganda. It has a long history, it's a science and it's used every single day by our goverment and our corporations.

Government propaganda never changes, it's always the same message. Corporate propaganda changes so they can sell stuff. Todays propaganda combines the two so both can sell each other.

In their minds, lies become truth if the lies are just repeated enough. We have a massive amount of people in our culture that are truly brainwashed.

You wanted the answer, there it is. Pretty gloomy huh?

[Lorien]

59. Write this to the MSM

until we all raise our voices and BOYCOTT THEIR ADVERTISERS (see the economic advertising and progressive living group for details) nothing will change.

[MadHound]

62. Yes, it is all about the money,

And the MSM covering for their corporate masters.

90 percent of the media in this country, TV, radio, books, newspapers, movies, etc. is held in the hands of six corporations. Of those six corporations, four have direct ties to the war, the other two indirect ties.

Thus, we see no honest reporting from the MSM, for the would destroy corporate profits. It is as simple as that.

[CantGetFooledAgain]

63. What about Air America?

Of course, they are a small outfit, but they are in fact a broadcast network, and they are reaching people.

Has Air America been bought off or made to tone down their message? I don't think so. I listen to Randi whenever I can, and she is uncompromising.

So, how is AAR doing financially? Are they stable? Are they growing? Are they getting advertisers? Investors? If so, it's good news. It means that there is an audience for the truth.

What about an Air America cable television network? Why couldn't this happen? I'm sure that there are many deep pockets that would be happy to get the ball rolling on that, like Soros for starters. And people would watch it. Advertisers would sign on. Many viewers, I think, would abandon CNN and MSNBC and Fox in favor of a news outlet that told the truth. The truth has a magnetic effect.

My point is that the media landscape is changing. Blogs and boards like DU are now part of the media. Air America is growing. The truth is getting out. Things are beginning to change for the better.

[Generator]

68. Welcome to the furious club

It's nice to have you as a member.

CNN is pure propaganda. I don't believe anything less. It took me awhile to come to that decision, but I have two words for you: Runaway Bride.

I stopped watching CNN & FOX & MSNNC (except for Countdown occasionally) on 11/3. I don't watch national news either, but local news which actually is the most "fair and balanced" news I see.

Anywoo-Runaway Bride sealed the deal. No fucking excuse to cover their ass with that one. Pure distraction, pure manufacturing of news.

She wasn't a celebrity, she wasn't blonde, beautiful or dead or or nothing. Once she was found alive, that story was over..no wait we must have it play for days because??? It wasn't a car chase..nothing on fire..NOT a celebrity..I repeat no one was dead..no children tortured..all the usual excuses..apparently she was the only made up bullshit "NEWS" they could find for the week.

It's propaganda. Pure and simple.

[ChiciB1]

70. Don't Want To Beat This Dead Horse....

I just wanted to reply to your post. I too have stopped watching those stations, and as you occasionally Keith O. Fortunately we have a Dish and a couple of very nice Du'ers gave me info about stations 9410, 9412 & 9415! Democracy NOW with Amy Goodman and much much more.

I have noticed they have been covering Al Franken these days too. The only BAD thing about this news is that it's considered "alternative" and not watched by enough people!

[WilliamPitt]

69. General Electric

owns MSNBC, as well as CNBC and NBC...as well as these:

Television
NBC Stations:

WNBC - New York
KNBC - Los Angeles
WMAQ - Chicago
WCAU - Philadelphia
KNTV - San Jose/San Francisco
KXAS - Dallas/Fort Worth
WRC - Washington
WTVJ - Miami
KNSD - San Diego
WVIT - Hartford
WNCN - Raleigh
WCMH - Columbus
WVTM - Birmingham
WJAR - Providence

Telemundo Stations:

KVEA/KWHY - Los Angeles
WNJU - New York
WSCV - Miami
KTMD - Houston
WSNS - Chicago
KXTX - Dallas/Fort Worth
KVDA - San Antonio
KSTS - San Jose/San Francisco
KDRX - Phoenix
KNSO - Fresno
KMAS - Denver
WNEU - Boston/Merrimack
KHRR - Tucson
WKAQ - Puerto Rico

NBC Universal Television Studio
NBC Universal Television Distribution

CNBC
MSNBC
Bravo
Mun2TV
Sci-Fi
Trio
USA

Film

Universal Pictures

Parks

Universal Parks & Resorts

Other
Paxson Communications (30%)

Other General Electric Businesses

GE Aircraft Engines
GE Commercial Finance
GE Consumer Products
GE Industrial Systems
GE Insurance
GE Medical Systems
GE Plastics
GE Power Systems
GE Specialty Materials
GE Transportation Systems

http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/ge.asp

In other words, they are a huge military contractor, insurance provider, medical systems provider, etc. They profit by war, HMOs, tort reform...any important stories in those issues they might not report on to protect the parent company?

I think yes.

[ChiciB1]

71. Hey Will Pitt....

I READ YOU all the time! What a surprise to have you respond. You're one of the Gooduns!!

Keep up the good work, but you must feel terribly FRUSTRATED most of the time!!!