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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:05 AM
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Know your BFEE: Dope Dealers & Money Launderers
Ask: Why is dope illegal?

Answer: Theres more money in it.

Wonder: Who benefits most?

The CIA & Drugs: Narco Colonialism in the 20th Century


"For decades, the CIA, the Pentagon, and secret organizations like Oliver North's Enterprise have been supporting and protecting the world's biggest drug dealers.... The Contras and some of their Central American allies ... have been documented by DEA as supplying ... at least 50 percent of our national cocaine consumption. They were the main conduit to the United States for Colombian cocaine during the 1980's. The rest of the drug supply ... came from other CIA-supported groups, such as DFS (the Mexican CIA) ... other groups and/or individuals like Manual Noriega." (Ex-DEA agent Michael Levine: The Big White Lie: The CIA and the Cocaine/Crack Epidemic)

Former Congessional Investigator Jack Blum, on the structure of CIA narco-colonialism:

"For criminal organizations, participating in covert operations offers much more than money. They may get a voice in selecting the new government. They may get a government that owes them for help in coming to power. They may be able to use their connections with the United States government to enhance their political power at home and towave off the efforts of the American law enforcement community."(Prepared October 1996 statement of Jack Blum (former special counsel to the 1987 "Kerry" Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations) for the October 1996 Senate Select Intelligence Committee on alleged CIA drug trafficking to fund Nicaraguan Contras in the 1980s, Chaired by Senator Arlen Specter)

"We also became aware of deep connections between the law-enforcement community and the intelligence community. I, personally, repeatedly heard from prosecutors and people in the law-enforcement world that CIA agents were required to sit in on the debriefing of various people who were being questioned about the drug trade. They were required to be present when witnesses were being prepped for certain drug trials. At various times the intelligence community inserted itself in that legal process. I believe that that was an impropriety; that that should not have occurred."(Jack Blum, speaking before the October 1996 Senate Select Intelligence Committee on alleged CIA drug trafficking to fund Nicaraguan Contras in the 1980s, Chaired by Senator Arlen Specter).

"In my 30-year history in the Drug Enforcement Administration and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." --Dennis Dayle, former chief of an elite DEA enforcement unit. FROM: Peter Dale Scott & Jonathan Marshall, Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies, and the CIA in Central America, Berkeley: U. of CA Press, 1991, pp. x-xi.

Taken alone, one CIA drug ring, that of Rafael Caro Quintero and Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo (two Contra supporters based in Guadalajara, Mexico) were known by DEA to be smuggling four tons A MONTH into the U.S. during the early Contra war. Other operations including Manuel Noriega (a CIA asset, strongman leader of Panama), John Hull (ranch owner and CIA asset, Costa Rica), Felix Rodriguez (Contra supporter, El Salvador), Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros (Honduran Military, Contra supporter, Honduras) along with other elements of the Guatemalan and Honduran military. Cumulatively, the aforementioned CIA assets were concurrently trafficking close totwo hundred tons a year or close to 70% of total U.S. consumption. All of these CIA assets have been ascertained as being connected to CIA via public documentation and testimony. -- from the outline section of this web site: ( )


I was authorized to do everything I did.

From Esquire:
Two years ago, Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that said some bad things about the CIA. The CIA denied the charges, and every major paper in the country took the agency's word for it. Gary was ruined. Which is a shame, because he was right.

Cocaine Importation Agency

Gary Webb, 1955-2004


HECTOR BERRELLEZ STUMBLED ONTO GARY WEBB'S STORY YEARS before Gary Webb knew a thing about it. His journey into that world happened this way: Hector was not fond of cops. He remembered them slapping him around when he was a kid. He was a barrio boy from South Tucson, a square mile of poverty embedded in the booming Sun Belt city. His father was a Mexican immigrant. After being drafted into the Army in the late sixties, Berrellez couldn't find a job in the copper mines, so he hooked up as a temporary with the small South Tucson police force to finance his way through college. And it was then that Hector Berrellez accidentally discovered his jones: He loved working the streets with a badge. The state police force hired him, and Hector, still green, managed to do a one-kilo heroin deal in the early seventies, a major score for the time. The DEA snapped him up, and suddenly the kid who had wanted to flee the barrio and become a lawyer was a federal narc. He loved the life.


In September 1986, Sergeant Tom Gordon of the Los Angeles sheriff's narcotics strike force pieced together intelligence about a big-time drug ring in town run by Danilo Blandn. A month later, on October 23, Gordon went before a judge with a twenty-page detailed statement documenting that "monies gained from the sales of cocaine are transported m Florida and laundered.,.. The monies are filtered to the contra rebels to buy arms in the war in Nicaragua." He got a search warrant for the organization's stash houses. On Friday, October 24, there was a briefing of more than a hundred law-enforcement guys from the sheriff's office, the DEA, the FBI. That was the same day that President Ronald Reagan, after months of hassle, signed a $100 million aid bill that reactivated a licit cash flow to the beleaguered contras. And on Monday, October 27, at daybreak, the strike force simultaneously hit fourteen L. A. area stash houses connected with Blandn.

That's where just another day in the life of Hector Berrellez got weird. Generally, at that early hour, good dopers are out cold; the work tends toward long nights and sleeping in. As Berrellez remembers, "We were expecting to end up with a lot of coke." Instead, they got coffee and sometimes doughnuts. The house he hit had the lights on, and everyone, two men and a woman, was up. The guy who answered the door said, "Good morning; we've been expecting you. Come on in." The house was tidy, the beds were already made, and the damn coffee was on. The three residents were polite, even congenial. "It was obvious," says Berrellez, "that they were told." The place was clean; all fourteen houses were clean. The only thing Berrellez and the other guys found in the house was a professional scale.

But there was a safe, and Berrellez got one of the residents to open it reluctantly. Inside, he found records of kilos matched with amounts of money, an obvious dope ledger, a photograph of a guy in flight dress in front of what looked to be a military jet, and photographs of some guys in combat. Hector asked the guy who the hell the people in the photographs were, and the guy said, "Oh, they are freedom fighters."

What the hell is this? Berrellez wondered. He left and went to a couple of the other houses that had been hit, and, Jesus, they were clean, the coffee was on, sometimes there were some doughnuts for the cops, and the same kind of documents showed up. But no dope, not a damn thing.

For a holy warrior, October 27, 1986, was a bad day. At the debriefing after the raid, Berrellez remembers one of the cops saying that the houses had been tipped to the raid by "elements of the CIA." And he thought, What? "I was shocked," he says now. "I was in a state of disbelief." He was supposed to believe that his own government was helping dopers? No way. "I didn't want to believe, he says.


Then theres the business of banking. The biggest problem faced by these NAZI-Mafia-CIA gangsters is where to stash the cash.

So they got into banking. (And investing. And nuclear proliferation, thanks to Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, B.F.E.E. and BCCI, but those are other stories.)

Sightings from The Catbird Seat

From The Outlaw Bank, by Jonathan Beaty & S.C. Gwynne:


"Mr. Bond, power is sovereignty. Clausewitz's first principle was to have a secure base. From there proceeds freedom of action. Together, that is sovereignty. I have secured these things and much besides. . . . These things can only be secured in privacy. You talk of kings and presidents. How much power do they possess? As much as their people will allow them . . . And how do I possess that power, that sovereignty? Through privacy. Through the fact that nobody knows. Through the fact that I have to account to no one."

- Ian Fleming, Dr. No

Dr. No, the island monarch with thin, cruel lips and immost designs on the fate of the Western world, would have been fascinated by the scandal that blossomed around the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in the summer of 1991. It was a conspiratorialist's conspiracy, a plot so byzantine, so thoroughly corrupt, so exquisitely private, reaching so deeply into the political and intelligence establishments of so many countries, that it seemed to have its only precedent in the more hallucinogenic fiction of Ian Fleming, Kurt Vonnegut, or Thomas Pynchon.

As tales of its global predations were spattered across headlines all over the world, its apparent influence reached almost absurd proportions. This was a bank that had taken the popular notion of a "global electronic village" and made a mockery of it, a bank that was at once everywhere and nowhere, whose dirtiest secrets were hidden deep in the impossible tangles of its offshore networks.

BCCI suddenly bloomed as sort of supermetaphor for the 1980s, the decade that celebrated the likes of Robert Maxwell, Ivan Boesky, and Michael Milken and unleashed upon the United States a horde of freebooters in the banking and thrift business. But nothing in the history of financial scandals even approaches the $20-billion-plus heist at BCCI, which sixty-two countries shuttered forever in July 1991 in a paroxysm of regulatory vengeance. No single scandal had ever involved such vast amounts of money.

Superlatives were quickly exhausted. BCCI was the largest criminal corporate enterprise ever, the biggest Ponzi scheme, the most pervasive money-laundering operation in history, the only bank - so far as anyone knows - that ran a brisk sideline business in both conventional and nuclear weapons, gold, drugs, turnkey mercenary armies, intelligence and counterintelligence, shipping, and commodities from cement in the Middle East to Honduran coffee to Vietnamese beans.

Though it was fundamentally a financial fraud, BCCI itself was not a bank in any conventional sense. Or, more precisely, banking was only a part of the global organism, the ingeniously constructed platform from which its other lines of business were launched....

This "bank" possessed its very own diplomatic corps, intelligence network, and private army, its own shipping and commodities trading companies. And BCCI itself was so thoroughly enmeshed in the official affairs of Pakistan that it was often impossible to separate the two.

BCCI was bigger even than that: It was the unsettling next-stage evolution of the multinational corporation, the one the theorists had been predicting for years but which never seemed to be able to shed its sovereign boundaries. (General Motors and Mitsubishi are both good examples of this - huge companies with holdings and operations all over the world that nonetheless persist in being fundamentally American and Japanese entities.) In taking that step, BCCI became truly stateless and very nearly invisible to the authorities in each country where it did business.

What Kerry found and the DEMs and GOPers buried:

Check out the summary. We wouldnt be in the mess were in today if wed prosecuted the treason then. The reason why we didnt, I bet, is the Mafia that is our secret government.

Mehr licht:

Bank with close ties to Bush administration engulfed in scandal

By Joseph Kay
24 August 2004

The Justice Department announced on Friday that it is launching a criminal investigation into Riggs Bank. In recent months, the Washington-based bank has become engulfed in a scandal related to charges of money-laundering, corruption and terrorist financing.

Riggs, which touts itself as the most important bank in the most important city in the world, has been known for decades as the bank of the Washington elite, including politicians, foreign ambassadors and the wealthy. It has held presidential accounts stretching back to the time of the Civil War, and is a prominent fixture in the political and social establishment of the nations capital.

Or rather, it was a prominent fixture. In July, PNL Financial Services agreed to buy Riggs for $779 million. The sale will become final by early next year.

The banks prominent embassy and international operations will be shut down in an attempt to bury a scandal that has the potential of becoming much larger. That an institution like Riggs could so quickly disintegrate is an indication of the extent of the corruption that has overtaken American finance and government.

There are three separate activities for which Riggs has come under investigation: (1) its relationship with the Saudi royal family and the potential financing of two of the September 11 hijackers through an account owned by the wife of the Saudi ambassador; (2) its relationship with the corrupt and dictatorial regime of the oil-rich West African country of Equatorial Guinea; and (3) its banking business with the former military dictator of Chile, Augusto Pinochet.


For what all this means, please put 2 + 2 together.

The BFEE is bad business, bad for America and bad for everybody.


Kryptocracies, Kryptonomy, and Oswald: the Mexican CIA-Mob Nexus


Kryptocracies and the Kryptonomy (International Drug Traffic)
But the power of kryptocracies to influence history became even greater when, as we shall see, they acted in concert with forces allied to the powerful international drug traffic. Most people are unaware of the size of this unrecorded drug economy. In 1981 U.S. Government analysts estimated that the annual sales volume of illicit drugs exceeded half a trillion dollars.<4> The total of legitimate, recorded international trade, in all commodities, was in the order of one trillion dollars, or twice the estimate for drugs. While estimates of the unrecorded drug traffic remain questionable, it is obvious that this traffic is large enough to be a major factor in both the economic and political considerations of government, even while it does not form part of recorded economic statistics.

For this reason, I propose the word kryptonomy, to name this unrecorded, illicit, but nonetheless important shadow economy. It is no accident that kryptocracies and the kryptonomy work in concert. The kryptonomy is so large, and so powerful, that governments have no choice but to plan to manage it, even before attempting to suppress it.<5>

There is a third factor contributing to the invisible alliance of kryptocracies and the kryptonomy: the power of the independently wealthy, and of the banks that cater to them. Informed observers of American politics have more than once commented to me that most of the hundred wealthiest people in the US know each other, and in addition often have connections to both the CIA and to organized crime. There is no shortage of anecdotal examples: James Angleton of CIA Counterintelligence delivering the sole eulogy at the small private funeral of Howard Hughes, or Joseph Kennedy Sr. being a point-holder in the same casino (the Cal-Neva) as Sam Giancana.<6> More relevant to the milieu of the JFK assassination is the example of Clint Murchison, Sr. Murchison paid for the horse-racing holidays of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover at the same time as he sold stakes in his investments to mob figures like Jerry Catena, and enjoyed political influence in Mexico.<7>

These connections are no accident. More often than not the extremely wealthy became that way by ignoring or bending the rules of society, not by observing them. In corrupting politicians, or in bypassing them to secure unauthorized foreign intercessions, both the mob and the CIA can be useful allies. In addition drug profits need to be laundered, and banks can derive a significant percentage of their profits by laundering them, or otherwise bending or breaking the rules of their host countries.<8> Citibank came under Congressional investigation after having secretly moved $80 million to $100 million for Raul Salinas de Gortari, brother of former Mexican president Carlos Salinas.<9>


Gary Webb
American Patriot.
A Hero in the fight for Truth.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:24 AM
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1. Just in time!!!
I JUST posted )))Where are you Octafish((( in another thread! :D

Question: Is James Baker still the Saudi's attorney AGAINST the 9/11 families?

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:58 AM
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3. The Aryan Mr. Bill is too much, Ratty! LMFAO!
Of course, having lived down Argentina way you must've seen a lot of them.

As for the BFEE and Dope Incorporated:

Esquire found a DEA agent who the LA Times, New York Times and Washington Post IGNORE. Why?

Gary Webb, 1955=2004


Hector Berrellez wanted a criminal investigation of the Central Intelligence Agency. His $3 million snitch budget had brought in an unseemly harvest, report after report from informants that in the eighties CIA-leased aircraft were flying cocaine into places like the air-force base in Homestead, Florida, and the airfield north of Tucson long believed to be a CIA base. And that these planes were flying guns south. One of his witnesses in the Camarena case told him about flying in a U.S. military plane loaded with drugs from Guadalajara to Homestead. Other informants told him that major drug figures, including Rafael Cato Quintero, the man finally imprisoned for the Camarena murder, were getting guns delivered through CIA connections. Everywhere he turned, he ran into dope guys who had CIA connections, and to a narc this didn't look right. "I can't believe," he told his superiors, "that the CIA is handling all this shit and doesn't know what these pilots are doing." His superiors asked if he had hard evidence of actual CIA case officers moving dope, and he said no, just lots of people they employed. All intelligence services use the fabled cutouts to separate themselves from their grubby work.

The DEA in Washington asked for a memo, so Hector fired off a summary of his telephone request. Agents were assigned, and Hector shipped every snippet of new information to this team. Nothing came of the investigation. The DEA team came out and debriefed him and some of his agents. And then, silence.
Hector's Camarena work had burrowed deep, very deep, inside the Mexican government and found endless rot. With the vote on NAFTA in the air in the fall of 1993, his investigation started to get pressure, then his budget was cut. By 1994, after Justice Department officials had been in Mexico City, he was told, "Don't report that crap anymore." It was clear to Hector that the Mexican government wanted this Camarena investigation reined in. In early 1995, he learned of his future in a curious way. One of Hector's informants in Mexico City called another one of his informants in Los Angeles and said, Hector's getting transferred to Washington. The guy in Los Angeles said, No, no, Hector's still here. Two months later, in April 1995, Berrellez was transferred to Washington, D.C. Over the years, Hector had become used to a certain amount of duplicity in the DEA. Some of his fellow agents, he had come to believe, were actually members of the CIA. The DEA had been penetrated.

At headquarters, Hector sat in an office with nothing to do. "There ain't no fucking drug war," he says now. "I was even called un-American. Nobody cares about this shit." He started going a little crazy. Each day, he checked in to a blank schedule. So he caught a lot of double features.

In September 1996, he retired. He had had enough. The most decorated soldier in the war on drugs kind of faded out at the movies.



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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:28 AM
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6. Gary Webb. Our friend.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 02:31 AM by Swamp Rat

"One day in 1991, in the underground parking garage of the building in Los Angeles where the DEA and a bunch of federal agencies rent office space, someone walked up to a guy sitting-in a car and clipped him in the head with a .22. The man died instantly and fell forward onto the steering wheel, and the sound of a car horn wailed through the garage. Hector remembers that they found him with the motor running, and neatly placed on the floorboard of the car was the gun, in a Mexican-tooled holster, and the two latex surgical gloves that had been worn by the hit man. Someone wanted a clear message delivered.

The dead man was a guy from the General Services Administration who happened to work in the same building as the DEA. He had been in some kind of a hurry and had pulled into a DEA parking space. The guy was a ringer for Hector's partner."



Or, some OTHER guy was set up for whatever reason.

I just accidentally came across this via Google when looking for info on James Baker and the Saudis. It's a UK site:
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:00 PM
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63. Question: Is James Baker still the Saudi's attorney ...?
A Legal Counterattack
Isikoff and Hosenball, msnbc
THE OPENING DEFENSE SALVO in what promises to be a bruising legal battle was fired last week when a trio of lawyers from Baker Botts, a prestigious Houston-based law firm, filed a motion on behalf of Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Saudi defense minister. The motion attacked the 9-11 lawsuit as a broadside indictment of Saudi government, religion and culture. It also argued that, as the third-ranking official of a foreign government, their client is immune from any U.S. legal action and that he should therefore be dismissed from the case altogether.

But in laying out their arguments, Sultans U.S. lawyers also presented highly detailed new evidence of the Saudi governments role in funneling millions of dollars to a web of Islamic charities that are widely suspected by U.S. officials of covertly financing the operations of Al Qaeda and other international terrorist groups.

Backed up by stacks of court affidavits and copies of cancelled checks, the Baker Botts team openly acknowledge in their brief that Sultan has for the past 16 years approved regular payments of about $266,000 a year to the International Islamic Relief Organizationa large Saudi charity whose U.S. offices were last year raided by federal agents. Sultan also authorized two additional grants totaling $52,000 to the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, another Saudi-based group that has drawn the scrutiny of U.S. antiterrorism investigators.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:30 AM
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2. I was about to start
another thread about the Drug War myself. I signed in and here THIS was.

I wish I could say that I'm surprised how little attention the Drug War gets from most progressives. Besides the fact that it's allowed great chunks of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to be gnawed away, the Drug War is inherently racist in its inception and current application.

And this should come as no surprise to any progressive. Yet most of them seem quite content not to challenge the general assumption that there NEEDS to be a War on Drugs.

Not that it's accomplishing anything. Drugs are AT LEAST as readily available now as they were when the Drug War began. And what's worse is that more dangerous drugs are far more common than they were back then.

The profit margins for those willing to delve into the black market are so high that anyone with an eye for a quick buck and fewer scruples than the current administration can make a lot of money in a short time.

Opposing the Drug War as it stands is NOT being "soft on crime." It's about trying to control crime by taking away the economic impetus for drug manufacture and distribution. Legalization and regulation of cannabis, in particular, will change the street dynamic beyond recognition. If cannabis is legally available to adults, it removes any necessity for those who indulge to deal with street dealers at all, and reduces exposure to deadlier and more addictive substances.

Eliminating the black market in cannabis would allow more resources to be spent on enforcement on harder and more dangerous drugs.

The war on cannabis, and the drug war propaganda, is financed in great part by alcohol companies (Coors, anyone?) and the pharmaceutical companies. If that doesn't make you stop and say...'what the hell?' then you're not paying attention.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:12 AM
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Great explanation of what the War on Drugs truly means, mythsaje!

And this should come as no surprise to any progressive. Yet most of them seem quite content not to challenge the general assumption that there NEEDS to be a War on Drugs.

Not that it's accomplishing anything. Drugs are AT LEAST as readily available now as they were when the Drug War began. And what's worse is that more dangerous drugs are far more common than they were back then.

War on Drugs takes away civil liberties, arrests millions and incarcerates communities. The War on Terror destroys the Constitution, an Article at a time and fails to catch the perpetrators. So they infiltrate and subjugate We the People simultaneously. Most insidious, it's a great way for the Police State to get its licks in.

PS: A most hearty welcome to DU, mythsaje!

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:55 AM
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5. It's insidious
and all too many people chime in with "but it's for our own good," though it's anything but.

Both domestic "wars" are inherently flawed for a variety of reasons. And it's time people woke up to this fact.

I find it disturbing and a little sad that of all the political parties, only the Libertarians seem to see this clearly. They're so off-base on so many other issues, their stance on the WOD is lost in the chaos.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:15 AM
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:55 AM
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8. The drugs war is to imprison liberal voters
Persons most likely to experiment with drugs are socially more liberal,
obviously. This war conveniently allows them to imprison their
opposition voters, whilst claiming it has something to do with a bloody

The war is completely cynical, intent on criminalizing poverty, and
the only means some poor persons have of paying the bills. This creates
a permanent desperate underclass that can be tossed in prison and
disenfranchised from voting... its a new generation of jim crow laws.

Combine this with sensenbrenner's sick law to criminalize anyone who
even "knows" about drugs use, and it is a gross criminalization of

It has totally affected my views of police and government. I've no
respect for them at all. They are criminal filth who set about to
destroy poeple. Police are scum enemies of civil rights and natural
justice, and for every hateful drugs warrior politician, veiling
themselves behind saving children, are 10000 decent people rotting
in prison being raped. If you had the lot of those drugs warriors in
a giant stadium with a giant nuke placed beneath it, i'd press the
button in a hot second. The drugs warriors ARE the problem, and
were they imprisoned for the crime of subverting the constitution..
or nuked for it using the nuclear option, we would all be better off.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:57 AM
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11. Not all police are bad...
Not saying that I disagree with you at all, but not all police are thugs. Not all lawbreakers are thugs either. Overall, there is a certain amount of evil which has permeated thanks to this corruption. But there are still alot of decent americans out there, you just have to know who to talk to basically.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:34 AM
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14. Indeed
They are bad until proven otherwise, as much as the whole system has
been perverted to "guilty until proven innocent". I presume their job
is to shoot me, throw me in prison and to take away my civil liberties,
and then it is nice sometimes when there are decent folks out there!

"You can get anything you want, at alices restaurant." :-)
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:35 AM
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10. A must see documentary on the War of Drugs
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 04:32 AM by DrDebug
Since a lot of people don't want to read pages. A two hour documentary. Even though it starts in Dutch, the documentary is in English.

Part 1:

Part 2:

If you have a stream ripper, rip the stream and download it.

Eric Sterling who invented the mandatory sentences is very strong. He almost burst into tears. "It was the worst thing he ever did and he didn't base the report on facts and then it became the standard". He is very genuine in his regret for what he did and has been fighting his own report ever since.

Edit: Included images of Eric Sterling. He made an amazing statement against the War on Drugs in the documentary.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:39 AM
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7. So this is the reason why Gary Webb was really suicided.......
...He uncovered all of this, heinous, shocking, sickening evidence much to the dismay of Jack Abramoff and his cronies.

This Council must get a prison sentance longer than any israeli we constantly persecute on the border. It doesn't make any sense at all, that the leadership sat on this evidence.

Fear not Gary Webb and rest in peace....Your truth is making it out unto the masses. :patriot:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:21 PM
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23. You got it, LightningFlash. So does Michael Levine...
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 12:26 PM by Octafish
The guy's an ex-fed specializing in the fight against Dope Inc.

With all respect to him and his honest colleagues -- I can only imagine his anger, shock and dissapointment at discovering who's behind is Dope Inc. IIRC, Levine lost a child in the Drug War.

Is Anyone Apologizing to Gary Webb?

by Michael Levine

Gary Webb, just in case you've already forgotten him, was the journalist who, in a well researched, understated article entitled "The Dark Alliance," linked the CIA supported Contras to cocaine and weapons being sold to a California street gang and ended up literally being hounded out of journalism by every mainstream news peddling organization in the Yellow Pages. Even his own employer The San Jose Mercury piled on for the kill.

And guess what? The CIA finally admitted, yesterday, in the New York Times no less, that they, in fact, did "work with" the Nicaraguan Contras while they had information that they were involved in cocaine trafficking to the United States. An action known to us court qualified experts and federal agents as Conspiracy to Import and Distribute Cocainea federal felony punishable by up to life in prison. To illustrate how us regular walking around, non CIA types are treated when we violate this law, while I was serving as a DEA supervisor in New York City, I put two New York City police officers in a federal prison for Conspiracy to distribute Cocaine when they looked the other way at their friend's drug dealing. We could not prove they earned a nickel nor that they helped their friend in any way, they merely did not do their duty by reporting him. They were sentenced to 10 and 12 years respectively, and one of them, I was recently told, had committed suicide.

I have spent three decades as a court qualified expert and federal agent and am not aware of any class of American Citizen having special permission to violate the law that we have been taxed over $1 trillion in the past two decades to enforce; the law that every politician, bureaucrat and media pundit keeps telling us protects us against the most serious danger to American security in our history.

The interesting thing to me, about the Webb article is that the CIA is provably (and now admittedly) responsible for much larger scale drug trafficking than Webb alleged or even imagined in his report. In fact, according to a confidential DEA report entitled "Operation Hun, a Chronology" that I used as part of the proof to back up the undercover experiences detailed in my book The Big White Lie, (optioned for a movie by Robert Greenwald Productions) the CIA was actively blocking DEA from indicting many members of the ruling government of Bolivia, from, 1980-83during a time period that these same people were responsible for producing more than 90 percent of the cocaine consumed in the United States. As CIA Inspector General Hitz himself stated before congress, it was during this time period that Nicraguan Contra supporters were buying large amounts of cocaine from these same CIA protected Bolivians.

Do you think Congress wants to see this proof?


And people wonder why we get the government some deserve.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:59 AM
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9. Why Does George W. Bush Fly in Drug Smuggler Barry Seal's Airplane?
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 03:18 AM by DrDebug

Why Does George W. Bush Fly in Drug Smuggler Barry Seal's Airplane?
by Daniel Hopsicker and Michael C. Ruppert

It has all the makings of a major box office thriller: Texas Governor and Republican Presidential contender George W. Bush and his brother Jeb, allegedly caught on videotape in 1985 picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport in a DEA sting set up by Barry Seal...

An ensuing murderous cover-up featuring Seal's public assassination less than a year later by a hit team...the members of which, when caught, reveal to their attorneys during trial that their actions were being directed by then, National Security Council (NSC) staffer - Lt. Colonel Oliver North...

And a private turboprop King Air 200 supposedly caught on tape in the sting with FAA ownership records leading directly to the CIA and some of the perpetrators of the most notorious (and never punished) major financial frauds of the '80s...Greek shippers paying bribes to obtain loans from American companies that would never be repaid. An American executive snatching the charred remains of a $10,000 payoff check from an ashtray in an Athens restaurant Swiss police finding bank accounts used for kickbacks and bribes..


Combined with revelations in a 1998 CIA Inspector General's report of Contra-era cocaine trafficking in which the CIA admits to "briefing" then Vice President Bush on how it lied to Congress about cocaine trafficking by its agents, it becomes clear that father and son have common secrets to conceal from the American public. That report, Volume II of the CIA Inspector General's report into allegations of Contra cocaine trafficking can be viewed at publications/cocaine2/index.html. A detailed discussion of that report, along with relevant excerpts is available at

Much much more at ...

The Spoils of War:
Afghanistan's Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade
by Michel Chossudovsky

According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), opium production in Afghanistan in 2003 is estimated at 3,600 tons, with an estimated area under cultivation of the order of 80,000 hectares.

The State Department suggests that up to 120 000 hectares were under cultivation in 2004. (Congressional Hearing, op cit):

"We could be on a path for a significant surge. Some observers indicate perhaps as much as 50 percent to 100 percent growth in the 2004 crop over the already troubling figures from last year"

Year Cultivation in hectares Production (tons)
1994 71,470 3,400
1995 53,759 2,300
1996 56,824 2,200
1997 58,416 2,800
1998 63,674 2,700
1999 90,983 4,600
2000 82,172 3,300
2001 7,606 185 (Taliban anti-opium program)
2002 74,000 3,400
2003 80,000 3,600

80 000 before the war. 120 000 in 2004. 160 000 in 2005? Poppy is doing fine. ( 160 000 hectares = 1600 km2 = 618 sq.m. = Luxembourg ) And the Taliban tried to eliminate the opium growth and were very successful as well, so there was no choice but to invade.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:36 PM
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24. When they pulled Seal's bullet-ridden body out of his trunk...
... guess whose phone number was in his pocket?

CIA Linked To Seal's Assassination

George Bush's Personal Phone Number Found in Seals' Trunk

Aug. 18, 1997
The Washington Weekly

"The biggest drug smuggler in American History was a CIA Agent."

That's the mind-boggling conclusion of a 6-month investigation into the life and death of Barry Seal, a pivotal figure of the Iran/Contra '80s. Seal's C123 military cargo plane figured prominently in two of the biggest and least-understood events of the decade, the Sandinista 'drug- sting' operation, designed to be the 'Gulf of Tonkin Incident' in a US- Nicaragua war, and the downing, six months after Seal's assassination, of his beloved Fat Lady cargo plane over Nicaragua, with Eugene Hasenfus onboard, precipitating what came to be known, mistakenly, as Iran/Contra.

We have learned that the official cover-up of Seal's CIA affiliation began before his body was cold.

Until now, the 'official version of events' retailed the popular legend of Barry Seal's assassination, with Seal being gunned down by Colombians on a Medellin cartel hit.

Three Colombians were convicted of his murder, and while their cartel connections have been revealed to the world, their connection to Oliver North's Enterprise has not. The 'shooter team' was armed by somebody with long experience with shooter teams, Miami CIA asset Jose Coutin, whose Miami gun shop also supplied weapons to the Contras.

They are part of what we call the Secret History; that is, that history of our life and times in which lone gunmen do NOT play any significant role.


Hopsicker and Ruppert are great resources for those dissapointed in ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutwork.

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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:42 AM
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12. Great post again, Octafish
A lot of info, just what I like.

Bookmarked and recommended!

The Chairman Bush pic was hillarious, btw! :D
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:44 PM
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When it comes to the BFEE, here's an idea whose time is way past due:

The following is adapted from a draft indictment of George Bush prepared by former DEA agent Celerino Castillo and the editors of Executive Intelligence Review. All the evidence contained in this draft indictment has been thoroughly documented. Most of it has been taken either from the Kerry Report of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, or the Final Report on Iran-Contra.






Racketeering 18 USC 1961et seq.
Conspiracy to Import Narcotics 21 USC 952 & 963
Continuing Criminal Enterprise 21 USC 848
Conspiracy To Obstruct Justice 18 USC 1503
Conspiracy To Obstruct Congress 18 USC 1505


1. At all times relevant to this Indictment, there existed an Enterprise, within the meaning of Title 18, USC, Section 1961 (4), that is, a group of individuals associated in fact which utilized the official positions of defendant GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH in the Government of the United States of American to facilitate the transfer, importation, and distribution of large quantities of illegal narcotics within the United States.

2. The members of the Enterprise consisted of the defendant herein named and others, including international drug traffickers, who utilized the Enterprise and the official positions of GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, DONALD P. GREGG, and OLIVER L. NORTH to facilitate their narcotics and money-laundering operations.


1. From January 1981 to January 1989, George Bush was Vice President of the United States, and from January 1989 to January 1993, Bush was President of the United States.

2. Beginning in 1981 and up until 1989, while he was Vice President of the United States, Bush assumed extraordinary power over U.S. intelligence and covert operations. This was done through a series of Executives Orders and National Security Decision Directives (NSDDs) signed by President Ronald Reagan.

3. On Dec. 14, 1981, President Reagan signed NSDD-3 on Crisis Management, which designated the Vice President chairman of the Special Situation Group (SSG), responsible for crisis management.

4. On January 12, 1982, President Reagan signed NSDD-2, which reaffirmed the existence of various interagency groups to deal with intelligence and covert operations. Under the interpretation of this document promoted by Bush, the SSG superseded and pre-empted the powers of the National Security Council in areas of crisis management, which encompassed covert operations and counter-terrorism.

5. On Jan. 28, 1982, Bush was put in charge of the South Florida Task Force on drugs.

6. On May 14, 1982, a standing Crisis Pre-Planning Group (CPPG 1 and 2) was established under the SSG. The SSG-CPPG, under Bush, was given responsibility for any area in which a potential crisis could emerge, and was charged with developing preemptive policy options for dealing with such a potential crisis.

7. On April 10, 1982, NSDD-30, on Managing Terrorist Incidents, was issued, giving the Vice President control over the convening of the SSG, and creating the Terrorist Incident Working Group (TIWG) to support the SSG.

8. On March 23, 1983, Bush took charge of the National Narcotics Border Interdiction System (NNBIS).

9. In July 1985, the Vice Presidents Terrorism Task Force was created, headed by Bush.

10. In Feb. 1986, the Terrorism Task Force issued its report, creating the Operations Sub-Group, officially a sub-group of the TIWG, and also creating a permanent counter-terrorism office located in the NSC staff, headed by Oliver North, but ultimately controlled and directed by Bush.

11. In August 1986, Bush became the chief of Operation Alliance, an anti-narcotics effort to be conducted in cooperation with Mexico.

Thus from Dec. 1981 to August 1986, Bush had consolidated his control over virtually aspect of U.S. covert operations, as well as every agency dealing with drug interdiction. Never before in peacetime in our countrys history had one man assumed as much power as Bush exercised while Vice President.


BTW: Executive Intelligence Review is LaRouche's outfit. He may be somewhat "different," but it doesn't change the truth of what he prints.

PS: Thanks, mogster! I, too, like information - as do all Democrats and Republicans -- all REAL Democrats and Republicans. Many in the current crowd are, allow me to say, faking it.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:54 PM
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26. Let's add this one as well
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 12:54 PM by DrDebug
I agree that George H.W. is even worse and George W. is only the dumb son of Satan, but that's what makes him just as dangerous, since he doesn't know what the hell he is doing...

Scoop ran an impeachment story which came from the DU as well. I can't find the post but it must be out here somewhere.

Articles Of Impeachment For President G.W. Bush
Monday, 9 May 2005, 11:02 am
Opinion: Guest Opinion
Source Democratic Underground

Resolved, that George Walker Bush, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and the following articles be exhibited to the Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against George Walker Bush, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Article 1.

In his conduct while President of the United States, George Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duties as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the United States and to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, willfully, knowingly and without lawful cause or excuse made false, misleading and deceitful statements to the Congress regarding evidence justifying military action against Iraq.

In doing this, George Walker Bush has brought disrepute upon the Presidency, has undermined the integrity of his office, has betrayed his trust as President and has acted in a manner subversive of constitutional government and the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, by such conduct, George Walker Bush warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:46 PM
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36. Impeachment kick
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:22 AM
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13. Great thread Octafish
Bookmarked and reading through the links right now

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:20 PM
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31. The Duplicity of the War on Drugs
Thank you for the kind words, Dark_Leftist! Here follows some fuel for the fire.

From the link below:

The author of this essay, written in the early 1990s, is unknown. Nevertheless, it is one of the most articulate and well documented presentations of the duplicitous nature of the so called "War on Drugs" ever written. Please copy it and distribute it as widely as possible. As well as giving it to your friends, please consider your local judges, law enforcement officers, government officials, religious leaders and other prominent members of your community. You will be doing yourself and the Constitution of the United States a great service.

The Duplicity of the War on Drugs

"The first casualty when war comes is the truth." - Sen. Hiram Johnson - 1917

The intent of this essay is to demonstrate that the War on Drugs was America's first great psy-war campaign perpetrated against its own people and that such abuse of power is likely to happen again. To demonstrate that psychological warfare techniques were employed requires understanding subtle sequences of disparate, but related, events. It involves asking questions as to the motivations, skill, expertise and knowledge of those involved.

At the height of the war on drugs, President George Bush held up a bag of cocaine in his first televised speech to the nation in September 1989. In December 1989, George Bush ordered the invasion of Panama to overthrow its narco-militarist dictator, Gen. Manuel Noriega. In the July 16, 1990 Newsweek, the scope of the war on drugs seemed ready to expand from Panama into future military actions against the powerful Colombian drug cartels. At face value, indeed the war on drugs seemed to be stemming the flow of cocaine into the United States. However, as a matter of fact, for the whole decade of the 1980's, casual and popular use of cocaine fell out of favor, and overall use steadily decreased. Yet as overall American consumption of cocaine in the mid '80's dwindled, the Reagan and Bush administrations were calling for an escalation in fighting drugs, declaring that America was awash in illegal drugs. The 1980's was a remarkable decade in international events: the Cold War was coming to an end, and the U.S. military-industrial complex was facing spending cuts, with myriad economic ramifications. The U.S. had gone through its longest period of peace since the end of World War I, and many Americans were calling for a Peace Dividend. While it may seem coincidental that the war on drugs was contemporaneous with the end of the Cold War and was punctuated by the Iran-Contra affair, a closer look at the war on drugs reveals disturbing patterns.

Critics of the Cold War have long pointed out that the Cold War was a convenient vehicle for the military-industrial complex to acquire an increasing share of the federal budget, regardless of the decline in threat posed by the Soviet Union. The war on drugs, it has been noted, arrives with all the familiar rubrics of constant threat and ceaseless terror. The difference being it is an internal war.

Other Western countries have drug addiction problems addressed by doctors and treatment clinics, but only the U.S. has a war on drugs. As ex-DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) agent Michael Levine has commented, "with the fade of communism (the Pentagon and CIA) are building a pretext for maintaining their budgets." (Esquire, March 1991, pg. 136) Indeed, after Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990, the rhetoric of the war on drugs changed, with the Bush administration declaring victory in the war against drugs late that year. Only mere coincidence, or had the Bush administration found it no longer needed the War on Drugs, having found the Butcher of Bagdhad?

During the Reagan years, as the Cold War started to wind down, the administration was pursuing the Contra covert war in Central America against Nicaragua and the leading Marxist Sandinista party. While this covert war was being waged by the CIA and the U.S.-supported Nicaraguan Contras, there were reports, as early as 1986, of the CIA and Contras being involved in drugs-for-guns barter arrangements. There is a wealth of evidence there was an even more unseemly side to the already patently corrupt Iran-Contra affair. Investigations paralleling the Iran-Contra hearings have delved further into the accumulated evidence of Contra involvement in drugs-for-guns deals and alleged monetary transfers to the Contras from the drug cartels. It has been documented by Senator John Kerry's Congressional Committee investigation that while the interdiction efforts were increased, illegal drugs, especially cocaine, were being smuggled into the U.S. by CIA-Contra airplanes and boats under the cover of gun-running operations.

The Colombian cartels, confronted by the escalation of the "War on Drugs," were able to continue trafficking despite increased U.S. interdiction efforts. The corresponding increases in interdiction efforts and the increased availability of cocaine has not escaped the mention of Princeton University Prof. Ethan Nadalmann: "Indeed, if (the interdiction and enforcement) efforts have accomplished anything in recent years, it has been to make marijuana more expensive and scarcer and to make cocaine cheaper, more potent, and more available." (Foreign Policy Magazine, Summer 1988)


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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:48 AM
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15. They didn't just casually "get into banking"
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 10:23 AM by starroute
The Bush-Nazi connections are often cited online. What's not generally pointed out is that Prescott Bush wasn't merely doing business with the Nazis. He and his associates were at the center of an elaborate system of money-laundering and financial fraud to conceal the profits of that business.

At the end of World War I, German steel magnate August Thyssen decided that the best way to protect his family's fortune against similar setbacks in the future was by creating a network of private banks. The Union Banking Corporation, founded in New York in 1924 by Averell Harriman and George Herbert Walker was a part of that network. Walker was the president and in 1926 his son-in-law, Prescott Bush, became a vice president. A few years later Allen Dulles became the lawyer for the Thyssens' Rotterdam bank.

After Hitler came to power, it was more profitable but also more risky for Americans to do business with German firms. As a result, the Union Banking Corporation -- with Prescott Bush now on the board of directors -- became the center of Nazi money-laundering operations in the US and was used to set up an elaborate covert network of holding companies.

All shares in the bank were seized by the US government in 1942, but thanks to Allen Dulles, they found their way back to their original owners after the war.

It was that model of money-laundering that was replicated by the CIA under Allen Dulles, this time to conceal profits from the drug trade. Paul Helliwell, the former OSS operative who'd gotten the CIA into the Asian heroin trade in the 1950's, founded Castle Bank in the Bahamas in the early 60's. This was the first of the major CIA money-laundering operations and was also closely tied in with both the Mob and anti-Castro operations.

So the Bush connection to money-laundering is older than either the CIA or the heroin trade. Money-laundering is the connecting link that runs from 1924 all the way through both the CIA and the BFEE to the present day.

On edit: I just double checked and Castle Bank wasn't founded until 1964, a few years after Allen Dulles had been fired as head of the CIA. It came out of that whole post-Bay of Pigs period, when anti-Castro Cubans were deeply involved in the drug trade (along with much else.) But Helliwell had been associated will Dulles for many years, setting up CIA front companies like Air America, and I still have no doubt that the Union Banking Corporation was the original model.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:28 AM
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18. Indeed, it was even older. In fact it started at the Opium Wars
It's actually a part of the old Skull and Bones tradition. Most of those wealthy families made their fortune in the Opium Wars. Their endeavours in WW1, WW2 etc. were of a later date to make even more money.

The next link maybe strange source, but remember that many of the Skull and Bones investigators are Christians, because of the Satanic practises of Skull and Bones while claiming to be Christians and this is a nice short introduction to the Opium Wars vs. Skull and Bones

China and the Opium Wars
"The Order of Skull and Bones"
Everything You Ever Wanted to Know, But Were Afraid to Ask.
By Kris Millegan

For a while, in the 1800s, the Yankee Clippers in Connecticut and Massachusetts were the fastest ships on the ocean. Speed was crucial to the opium trade; whoever made the trip from Turkey/India to Macao/ Hong Kong/Shanghai first got the most for their goods.

Powerful national interests were behind the drug trade, because American traders were badly in need of some article the Chinese would buy, since by this time the seal breeding grounds had been nearly wiped out. If the Chinese had not bought opium from Americans, then United States imports of silk, porcelain and tea would have to paid in precious coin, which was in short supply. In 1843, when the Port of Shanghai was opened, Russell and Co. was one of its earliest traders.

In 1903, Yale Divinity School set up a program of schools and hospitals in China. Mao Zedong was among the staff. During the intrigues of China in the 1930s and '40s, American intelligence called upon the resources of "Yale in China", and George Bush's cousin and fellow "Bonesman" Reuben Holden.

After stints as UN Ambassador and Chairman of the Republican National Committee for the beleaguered Richard Nixon, George Bush was sent to look after the "China trade". The Bush family is still very much involved in the economic activities of "Red" China.

Many researchers contend that George Bush has been with CIA since the early 1950s, and that one of his jobs was to consolidate and co-ordinate the worldwide narcotics industry, the largest industry on Earth. Some say that one of the reasons behind the Vietnam "Police Action" was a cover for the consolidation of the "Golden Triangle".

That explains the interests of the BFEE in China as well (Prescott jr. and God H.W. Sub's Ambassador position)

A more comprehensive story is at

For further reading. An excellent bibliography of Skull and Bones and Drug Trade
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:20 PM
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28. It doesn't explain everything
Kerry's family on his mother's side was at the heart of the opium trade. His grandfather, James Grant Forbes, was actually born in Shanghai in 1879. Compared to that, the Bushes were Johnny-come-latelies. They didn't get involved with China until very late into the game. So this doesn't really explain the distinct qualities of their family history.

Also, when I saw the title of your post, I was hoping it would have more on the history of money-laundering. At this point, I have no idea if it was something old August Thyssen invented or if it had a prior history. I can't think the ability to move large sums of money about from nation to nation would go back before the start of the 20th century, but I don't really know. If anybody has any info on this, I'd love to hear it.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:35 PM
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29. My story was more about the history of the group
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 01:53 PM by DrDebug
It doesn't explain everything and indeed a membership like Kerry doesn't necessarily mean that a person is truly evil. ( Remember Gorbachov was a 33rd degree mason as well ), but Kerry's membership is probably linked to his family history as well. And it is something which is worrying in case of Kerry, because you can't fully trust him. I would prefer a candidate who isn't involved in highly secret clubs which has many members which are very tainted.

Skull and Bones was established by the Russells and they were the family which made fortunes during the Opium trade and wanted people who felt the same way about making money. They wanted a secret group of immensely powerful families to continue activities like drug smuggling to further enhance their power. Most of the members did have a banking or drug history, but in deed not all.

Prescott wasn't extremely wealthy, but he was very smart (and was of the important Scottish royalty* bloodline which is a must in masonic orders for some weird reason) and became a senator as well. It stands to reason that Prescott was selected because of his superb qualities and because he was probably corruptable as well.

It wasn't until he linked with George Herbert Walker that he got his powerful connections and companies which made him wealthy. And then George H.W. got the best of both worlds and we know what that has caused. There's hardly a major scandal which doesn't have a H.W. line somewhere even though it can hardly ever be proven.

I don't think Thyssen invented it. Banks already played a vital role in money laundring during the Opium wars - I suggest you google for it, because I don't have a link handy. I don't know Thyssen's family history, but it was probably influential as well, because he had a bank, a shipping company etc. They were loaded before he became involved with Hitler.

*I haven't figured it out. But they are ALL related to Robert de Ros which is descend of King William I of Scotland. Robert de Ros was a banker as well. One of the biggest bankers of his time and he was the first person to start a covert intelligence organisation (the first CIA of the world indeed!)
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:01 PM
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30. I found the bank story. It was on the other link
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 02:06 PM by DrDebug
Queen Victoria's Prime Minister, who was involved in both wards, was Lord Palmerston, the Grand Patriarch or Master of Grand Orient (Illuminate) Freemasonry. The vehicle for this trade in opium from Indian and China and elsewhere was the East India Company, a group of Scottish merchants who were aligned with the Knights of St John of Jerusalem and the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits). Some researchers believe that its real masters were the banking families of northern Italy, the Black Nobility.

So the Opium Wars of 1840 to 1858 had a link to banking families of northern Italy which was probably how the laundered the money.

Notice that it was already a multi-national setup. USA, UK, Italy, China, India etc. Many wanted a slice of the Opium market and they had a completely intransparant setup already!
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:37 AM
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53. Thyssen - Black nobility link
The Thyssen family is a member of the Black nobility bankers as well. So I guess we've gone full circle again. Just like Bush they married into the important family later on. So there's no link with August, but there is with his son.

The information is on ThyssenKrupp, their own company which of course still exists...

Heinrich Thyssen-Bornemisza (October 31, 1875 - June 26, 1947)

The youngest son of August Thyssen (1842 - 1926) and Hedwig Pelzer (1854 - 1940) studies chemistry, physics and mineralogy in Munich, Berlin, Bonn and Heidelberg, where he gains a doctorate in chemistry in 1900.

After his marriage to the Hungarian baroness Margareta Bornemisza (1887 - 1971), he is adopted by his father-in-law who has no male heirs. In 1907 Franz Joseph I, Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary, bestows on Heinrich Thyssen and his descendants the right to adopt the name and coat of arms of Bornemisza de Kszon and bear the title of baron. Heinrich Thyssen-Bornemisza keeps his Hungarian citizenship up to his death in 1947, but in the 1920s and 1930s he intermittently acts as a German national. The marriage produces four children, one of them Hans Heinrich (b. 1921).

After the First World War, Heinrich Thyssen-Bornemisza flees Austria and moves with his family to The Hague, where he becomes head of Thyssen's foreign interests, the most important one of which is now the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart.

Of course it doesn't mention the war. Don't mention the war!

But that means that they are nobility. And are they part of the "Black nobility".... Guess what?

Hier ein paar der Familien des "Schwarzen Adels":
Haus von Finck
Haus von Thurn und Taxis
Haus von Thyssen-Bornemisza
Haus von Guelph (U.K.)
Haus von Wettin (Belgien)
Haus von Bernadotte (Schweden)
Haus von Liechtenstein (Liechtenstein)
Haus von Oldenburg (Dnemark)
Haus von Hohenzollern (Deutschland)
Haus von Hannover (Deutschland)
Haus von Bourbon (France)
Haus von Oranien (Niederlande)
Haus von Grimaldi (Monaco)
Haus von Wittelsbach (Deutschland)
Haus von Braganza (Portugal)
Haus von Nassau (Luxemburg)
Haus von Habsburg (sterreich)
Haus von Savoy (Italien)
Haus von Karadjordjevic (Jugoslawien)
Haus von Wrttemberg (Deutschland)
Haus von Zogu (Albanien)
Familien in Italien: Agnelli, Colonna, Pallavicini

Die meisten der Familien des SWA leben aber von Pachteinnahmen. Die Vermgen der Familien liegen alle in Schweizer Banken und ebenso die Gelder aus den riesigen Drogengeschften, speziell die der letzten 12 Jahre, sind dort zu finden.

Drogengeschften translates to Drug business. Okay it does say 'most' so it's not 100%, but I guess that UBC came from the same group again. Opium war profiteers with banking history.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:52 AM
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20. John Loftus on the Bush /Thyssen relationship

Toby Rogers on how the Bush family wealth was partially derived from The Holocaust
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:14 AM
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21. One point about the Bush's family wealth
Most people look at the Bush line and that wasn't an extremely wealthly line, but the Walkers made them what they are, because Prescott Bush became a Skull and Bones in 1917 became friends with George Herbert Walker, Bones Class of 1927.

George Herbert Walker Bush is called what he is called because of George Herbert Walker. He is simply the Bush variant of the Walker line. The same applies to the Prescott line which always turns up in their naming.

Did you know that the Skull and Bones has Hitler's original silverware and table settings? ( )
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:05 PM
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34. Helliwell Created Black Business Ops
Your information about the BFEE and banking is spot-on and much appreciated, starroute! I'm digesting what you posted and will have a bit to add specifically later this weekend.

Thanks also for the dynamite stuff on Helliwell. In one of those DU coincidences, Ive just started reading Preleude to Terror: The Rogue CIA and the Legacy of Americas Private Intelligence Network by Joseph Trento and am in the process of getting up to speed on Helliwell. The fellah seems to have invented the off-the-books operational cash cow concept, the arcane craft of concealing secret business operations.

From Trento:


Chapter 4


Helliwell was well qualified for this task. He had, from the beginning, been in on one of the CIAs most closely guarded secret operations. Of the long, secret list of CIA wrongdoing that constituted the Agencys so-called family jewels, Helliwell had the details of the most outrageous and long-running Agency crime.

Ever since 1949, the CIA had allowed the rebel armies and dictators it supported in Asia to deal in illegal drugs in order to finance their operations. Mao Tse-tungs defeat of Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang (KMT) Army in 1950 came at the height of the Red scare in the United States. As the KMT Army scattered in defeat, many of the troops made their way to Taiwan (then known as Formosa), but others went to Burma. The CIA decided that this remnant of Chiangs troops had to be kept armed for a future invasion of Communist China. The CIA created a pair of front companies to supply and finance the twelve thousand surviving KMT soldiers. The first was Civil Air Transport (CAT), a Taiwan-based airline, and the second was Sea Supply Corporation, a shipping concern in Bangkok hat Helliwell fouded. Through Sea Supply, Helliwell imported large amounts of arms for the KMT soldiers to keep the Burmese military from throwing them out of the country. The arms were ferried into Burma on CAT airplanes. CAT then used the empty planes to fly drugs from Burma to Taiwan, Bangkok, and Saigon. There the drugs were processed for the benefit of the KMT and Chiang Kai-sheks corrupt government on Taiwan.

By 1960, the CIA realized that the KMT drug lords had grown so comfortable that there was little hope of getting them to fulfill their original role: to fight the Communist insurgencies that were springing up under Soviet and Chinese sponsorship all over the region. So the CIA turned to a variety of Laotian opium chiefs and sought alliances with their large private armies of Meo tribesmen. Planners at CIA headquarters believed that the key to winning Asia was the defeat of the Communist-backed Pathet Lao. Since the best fighters in the region were in the drug armies, it was imperative that they be on the CIAs side.

One of the key Laotian chieftains was General Vang Pao. The CIA persuaded Vang Pao to use his 30,000-man army to help fight the Pathet Lao. Vang Pao and his army were responsible for the shipment of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of opium, always listed on cargo manifests as diverse. In return for joining with the CIA, Van Paos opium business was mechanized almost overnight. Previously the product opium paste, which looks like beeswax and smells like elephant dung was transported in large teak rice boats from the highlands down to Vietnams delta, where the vawst amounts of water needed to process the opium paste into heroin was readily available. The CIA modernized the opium trade in Indochina. Oportable heroin processing facilities were brought in, recalled William Corson. It was a creation of the CIAs technical services division. They even trained the Meo in how to run the things.


Preleude to Terror: The Rogue CIA and the Legacy of Americas Private Intelligence Network, by Joseph J. Trento, (2005) Carroll and Graff.

Gee. That gives me a different take on why the big interest in Vietnam by the Establishment.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:18 PM
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37. The story really starts with the OSS in China during World War II

The place was Kunming in the South China province of Yunnan. The time was the end of World War II. Amid the chaos of war, opium and gold became the primary media of exchange, and cult-like bonds were forged among a small staff of Americans and high-ranking Chinese. Yunnan was a center of Chinese opium cultivation and Kunming was the hotbed of military operations, among them Claire Chennault's 14th Air Force and Detachment 202 of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS).

Singlaub had first met Cline, along with four future backers of CIA-Cuban operations (Howard Hunt, Paul Helliwell, Lucien Conein and Mitch WerBell) in a small OSS mission at Kunming in China, at the very center of the World War II KMT drug traffic. According to the Wall Street Journal, OSS payments at this base were frequently made with five-pound shipments of opium.

Helliwell, of course, continued in the drugs-and-arms business for the CIA, but the other five of these men are noteworthy as well: E. Howard Hunt. General John Singlaub, head of the World Anti-Communist League in the 80's when it was the primary conduit of illicit aid to the Contras. Ray Cline, who left the CIA in 1973 and played an important role in the 1980 Bush for President campaign. Conein and WerBell, two exotic characters who show up in an astonishing number of dubious contexts from the 50's to the 70's, including the Nixon White House.

Here are a few particularly ripe paragraphs on Conein from Gaeton Fonzi's "The Last Investigation":

Youve got to start with the premise that Lou Conein is crazy, said one of his former CIA bosses once. Crazy enough to always survive. A beefy, scarred, gnarled old grizzly of a man, Conein left Kansas City when he was seventeen to join the French Foreign Legion. In 1941 in France, he switched to the OSS and lived and fought with the notorious Corsican Brotherhood, which was then part of the Resistance. (Later, the Brotherhood became deeply involved in the drug trade and was considered much more effective and dangerous than its Siciliar counterpart, the Mafia.) Moving on to the Far East, Conein was part of an OSS team parachuted into Vietnam to fight the Japanese alongside the Vietminh. He then fought against the Vietminh with the Blackhawk operation, helped Ngo Dinh Diem consolidate his power in South Vietnam and then, in a policy turnaround, was the CIAs liaison with the cabal of generals who murdered Diem.

It was Coneins involvement with this last coup which led another old OSS cohort, E. Howard Hunt, to give him a call several years later. Hunt, by then, was working in the Nixon White House. Besides wanting Conein to release a group of phony telegrams which would have squarely blamed President Kennedy for the Diem assassination (Nixon then considered Edward Kennedy his prime political foe), he wanted Conein to run what was, ostensibly, the White House war against the international drug trade. (p. 73)

Then, in November, 1973, Conein got moved out of the White House--though not out from under White House command--to become chief of Special Operations for the Drug Enforcement Administration. He was to be part of Nixons highly publicized nationwide police campaign, led by White House enforcers with special powers, to combat drug abuse.

It has been suggested that Nixons antidrug campaign was, in actuality, a bid to establish his own intelligence network. It has also been suggested that it was exactly that bid which brought the sucker setup that was Watergate and Nixons political assassination. (pp. 70-71)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:53 PM
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62. Nugan Hand Bank
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 09:56 PM by Octafish
That new Trento Book is full of hot stuff, like the full Nugan Hand story. Here's a recap on how a couple of CIA buddies were used to set up a global chain of banks -- used for money transfers, laundering, payoffs and so on. Both Nugan and Hand were, apparently, disposed of when their usefullness expired.

The graphic version:

world finance corporation miami and nugan hand ltd. of sydney, australia, c.1972-80 (8th version), 1997
Mark Lombardi
graphite on paper
24 x 54 inches


It's how they do bidniss.

Project Hammer

Covert Finance and the Parallel Economy

Part 1 of 2

The off-ledger trading programs operated by some central and international banks launder massive amounts of money and provide vast sums to fund covert 'black budget' projects.

by David G. Guyatt
Nexus Magazine, Volume 9, Number 1

Project Hammer is all about money. Stupendous great gobs of money. So much money, in fact, that it will challenge whatever reality you thought you had about the over-world of banking, finance and economics. It is also about the nether world of international banking and finance, a world that is said not to exist in reality. But exist it does.

More often than not, this never-never-land of international banking is concealed from public view by the judicious use of two sets of books. It is also eclipsed from interested investigators by a never-ending series of real frauds that result in arrest and imprisonment of numerous scam artists. This creates the clever illusion that the only thing going on are artful scams designed to fleece the unwary.

Such swindles fall under the general category of High Yield Investment Programs, Front End Fee frauds and Prime Bank Note schemes. Numerous law enforcement cases such as these, when twinned with dire "beware" warnings published on FBI, US Treasury and other websites, easily lead one to conclude that there are no such things as "real" trading programs. And the powers that be don't at all object to this conclusion being reached. It is the old case of hiding trees in a forest.

A key point to keep to the fore in what follows is that trading programs operate "off ledger". That is to say, the banks and central banks that operate them run two sets of books: one set for public scrutiny, and another set for private viewing only. Another fact to bear in mind is that authorised programs generate quite spectacular profits for very little--in fact, minuscule--risk, and those who are invited to participate as funders accumulate capital at a shockingly rapid rate. One reason, perhaps, why the wealthy get altogether wealthier as the poor sink ever lower into the mire of poverty.

The financial, banking and economic shadow-world in which Project Hammer lived, breathed and manufactured money "out of thin air" is the dirty little secret of the Western economy. It is a form of money creation that is effectively unchallenged by any form of oversight or accountability as we understand it. Hammer and numerous other transactions like it are based on what are known as Collateral Trading Programs, although many other descriptive names and terms are also used.1

The reason for such programs is to create vast pools of ready money that are earmarked for use in sanctioned (authorised) operations and projects. On the plus side, many beneficial projects throughout the world get funded as a result of program trading. On the negative side, there are more shadowy projects. Included in the latter category are certain black operations.


Bank robbery isn't just the perview of the common thug. Remember the Savings and Loan "scandal"?


The Bush Family Saga

Part II - Part I Here

The Silverado Savings and Loan Scandal

By William Bowles

05/11/03: (Information Clearing House) The savings and loans crashes of the 1980s, themselves directly the result of Reagans deregulation of the banking industry, is more interesting because of how it reflects the rapacious nature of unbridled capitalism than of Neil Bush himself. Who by the way, is now embroiled in another scam with his latest venture, educational software, Ignite (turnover $20 million, much of it from educational subsidies obtained in the state of Florida ,where, coincidentally of course, his bro Jeb, is governor).

Altogether, its been calculated that bailing out the failed S&Ls countrywide cost the US taxpayer around $1.4 trillion!

There are nowhere as many digital sources on the S&L debacle because it predates the Web. Much of it is contained in pages that refer to the numerous scandals and malfeasances of the Bush clan at large. Even so ,Ive managed to uncover a number of dedicated sources.

"Bush sons ventures expose him to scrutiny"Michael K. Frisby05/17/1992


Then, of couse, are the ultimate bosses of the BFEE. The super-rich turds who are quickly becoming the super-super rich, some with more money than the typical average African nation. Thank havens for tax-cuts.

Money laundering

The washing machine

In explosive excerpts from his new book, Nick Kochan digs the dirt on how an army of criminals has broken into the world's financial system, and investigates the Square Mile's growing addiction to criminal cash

Sunday June 5, 2005
The Observer

Money laundered through the world's financial system has now reached stratospheric levels, trillions rather than billions. Fresh figures from the International Monetary Fund put it at the $2 trillion mark. But when you include the cost of fighting money laundering, the number reaches $2.5 trillion. That is approaching 10 per cent of global GDP, according to the IMF.

These numbers indicate the amount of global crime where there is a financial component. That includes everything from tax evasion and very basic fiddles to money made from computer-game counterfeiting, people-smuggling and drug-dealing.

Big-time launderers pay heavily to deceive police, banks and tax authorities. They hire lawyers, accountants and bankers to make and launder illegal cash to ensure its entry into the legal economy.

City professionals are easily tempted. Many of those who co-operated with the corrupt Bank of Credit and Commerce International came from leading firms. When push came to shove, ethics went by the board and they joined the ranks of sleazy money launderers.

The offshore world provides the funnel for most offshore money. This reservoir of anonymous accounts and bogus banks is accessed by institutions for both genuine and illicit purposes. Money passes from account to account to acquire a genuine appearance. It is likely to reach the City of London after a long journey to obtain the City's stamp of blue-chip credibility. For many, that is the final stop. Taking peddlers of dirty money out of the system, and out of London, challenges the Financial Services Authority on a daily basis.

Identification checks on small-time bank customers keep compliance officers in jobs but yield few clues about laundering. An organised criminal worth his salt can mock up, or purchase, a utility bill or passport.


When it comes to the BFEE and its criminality, villainy and treason, it never ends, starroute. That is, until we say it ends. Thanks for giving a damn, starroute!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:38 PM
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38. Vang Pao and Richard Armitage
This stuff drives me absolutely nuts, because you can grab it almost anywhere and in two jumps you're face to face with Watergate, the Kennedy assassination, or even 911 (in which Armitage, who has close relations with Pakistan's ISI, played an enigmatic role.)

Meanwhile, back at the Iran-contra ranch, on February 24, 1986, 4:44 pm, a furious military intelligence agent contracted by the CIA, DIA and ISA dialed (202) 695-4351, the desk of Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Armitage, to inquire about "his alleged involvement in a house of prostitution for senior military officers, intelligence agents, and informants in Southeast Asia." Scott Barnes, the interrogator, also wanted to know "about his work with Vang Pao and drug money laundering."1 Barnes had discovered these connections while on assignment in South Vietnam searching for POWs. He didn't find POWs, exactly. What he found in Vietnam was American pilots with CIA connections imprisoned on charges of attempting to smuggle opium out of the country AFTER the war.

Four days later, he was on the phone with Dave Hall, assistant special agent in charge of the Inspector General's office, to discuss Armitage's "connection with drugs and prostitution in Southeast Asia and his continued involvement with Mr. O'Rourke running guns." The IG inspector said that he had heard of "a possible connection," and put up, "former Ambassador Phil Habib was also involved." An Army major general had written the IG to expose "Armitage's and Habib's alleged involvement in prostitution in a Da Nang house of prostitution and in laundering out of Southeast Asia to the Philippines and to Sidney, Australia, using Air America, Vang Pao connections and secret airlines."1

Khun Sa instructed his secretary to read the names from his diary, but stipulated that the names he was going to reveal were old ones and not those he was presently doing business with. The US government officer responsible for buying the Opium crop was Richard Armitage - a high level and well known administration official. Armitage was working, the secretary read, with an individual named Santos Trafficante, who operated as Armitage's "traffic manager." Gritz was well aware of who Trafficante was - the legendary Florida "Boss" of the Mafia.

During a 1991 lecture, Gritz pointed out the economics of Khun Sa's Heroin pipeline on the US government. The warlord was paid $300,000 per ton from the US government, but the product sold on the street for $1 million per pound. "No one wants him out of business," Gritz observed wryly.

Once more returning to America, Gritz attempted to get someone in the administration - including Vice President George Bush - to take note of his information. His approaches were forcefully spurned. As a gesture of goodwill to the US government, Khun Sa wrote a letter to President Bush offering him free and gratis one ton of No 4 pure Asian heroin. This was the warlord's way of offering an incentive with the US to reach an agreement aimed at converting production from Opium to another crop. Bush didn't respond to the letter.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:15 AM
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46. Sometimes I envy the ignorant.
This stuff does drive one mad. As you said, starroute, the connections are enough to white one's hair. Then to make things BFEE worse is the sheer volume and complexity of these connections.

Armitage is one scary guy. Likeable, but scary.

And if anything, those he works for are working for someone else. They're not ignorant. They're psycho.

There's Something About Omar:
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11

by Chaim Kupferberg
Centre for Research on Globalisation
21 October 2003


In the few months leading up to September 11, O'Neill -- for the first time in his 30-year career with the FBI -- would make the headlines in two separate scandals. The first, reported in July 2001, concerned O'Neill's dispute with Ambassador Barbara Bodine in Yemen, where O'Neill was reportedly pursuing al-Qaida links to the U.S.S. Cole bombing. As the story had it, O'Neill was too much the cowboy for Bodine's tastes, and so she summarily banned him from returning to Yemen. The second scandal, reported in August 2001, concerned a briefcase of classified documents that O'Neill had misplaced during a convention in Tampa. Considering the resolution of the latter scandal -- the documents were found, "untouched," a couple hours later -- it seemed much ado about nothing. Yet in the light of O'Neill's subsequent death as head of security for the World Trade Center on September 11, the scandals began to take on a more suspicious tint. Was O'Neill digging too deep? A maverick who stepped on too many feet in his efforts to bulldog his way through the hierarchy? Put bluntly, had the maverick been taken down a notch by a bloated bureaucracy beholden to a "cover-your-ass" ethic? As Richard Clarke, Jerry Hauer, John Miller, Chris Isham, and O'Neill's friends/colleagues at Kroll Associates would spin it, O'Neill's was the lone voice shouting in the wilderness, warning all who would listen about the approaching bin Laden threat before falling himself, "ironically", at the hands of bin Laden.

It was an ingenious cover story -- for if O'Neill was a crucial operative in assembling the al-Qaida elements that fed into the 9/11 Legend, then O'Neill's crystallized role as official 9/11 martyr would forever obscure the trail to September 11, and, by extension, leave his most intimate comrades and contacts out of the suspect category. In short, it would be like reconstructing the murder of Nicole Simpson without O.J. in the tale. With O'Neill cast as martyr, 9/11 critics would now be left with a mishmash of innuendos and bits and pieces of shadowy conspiracies: Israeli spy rings that trail off into the ether of Fox News; passenger lists with missing hijackers; and abandoned "put" options. If the shadowy conspiracy had a face, it was in the image of either Dick Cheney or Richard Perle. But then again, who marketed them as the latest powers behind the throne? Where were the folks who brought us BCCI, Iran-Contra, and the Warren Commission? Where were James Baker, Zbigniew Brzezinski, David Rockefeller, Kissinger?


Yet there is a curious continuity here -- one that highlights the global infrastructure that has made 9/11 such a successful worldwide "op", with a legend whose global parameters defy the perceptions of even the most dogged investigators. As Peter Dale Scott has argued in great and persuasive detail, the "deep political structure" of American society -- and I would argue that this now applies globally -- is permeated by an interwoven nexus between political/corporate elites and an organized criminal subculture, whereby certain political or business arrangements are made in an extra-legal sphere, beyond the reach of sanction or salience. Although this dual-purpose netherworld has been with us for over a century -- and roughly parallels the rise of an American industrial "Establishment" of which the Bushes and Rockefellers are most representative -- for our purposes, we will date the true globalization of this "deep political structure" with the creation of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, better known as BCCI.

The story goes that BCCI was founded by Pakistani financier Aga Hassan Abedi. In truth, it was mostly a British intelligence operation using Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates as fronts, while C.I.A. elements allied with George H. W. Bush used the banking network to conduct a number of under-the-table operations throughout the `80's. Before it went under, BCCI served as the cardiovascular system for a global criminal milieu, its laundered arteries servicing the needs of various drug lords, arms dealers, fraudsters, dictators, corrupt politicians, terrorists, and intelligence agencies seeking loose cash for their extra-legal activities.

In short, BCCI was Disneyworld for the New World Order of political/corporate crime. With ample supplies of heroin leaving Afghanistan and heading stateside throughout the `80's, there were ample funds left to underwrite the activities of Osama bin Laden and his mujaheddin, ensconced in a battle to oust the Soviet occupation forces from their midst. And with cocaine coming stateside by way of Colombia, a little pocket money could be set aside to furnish the Nicaraguan Contras with their own anti-Soviet toys.


Gee. Didn't Neil work for Kroll Associates, the CIA of Wall Street? Oops. My mistake. Kroll investigated Neil's Thai toy company that burned to the ground, claiming the lives of 188 workers.

Sorry. I was thinking of Neil at another security firm at the WTC: Securacom now Stratesec.


Bush-linked company handled security for the WTC, Dulles and United


George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family.

The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a "completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."


Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000. But the White House has not publicly disclosed Bush connections in any of its responses to 9/11, nor has it mentioned that another Bush-linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked.

Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.


The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.


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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:45 AM
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48. Very well said!
This stuff drives me absolutely nuts, because you can grab it almost anywhere and in two jumps you're face to face with Watergate, the Kennedy assassination, or even 911

Whenever you touch a BFEE subject it suddenly hooks up with the other scandals. You don't even have to dig deep. It's just there in your face and that happens time and time again. The same people, same companies, links which somehow match the other stories, scary similarities between events (often the exact same scenario is reused) ...

This stuff is all connected. Yet it goes totally unreported. What the hell is up with journalists nowadays, because they can write awesome stories and it'll take them half a day.

The one thing which stunned me most was the Reagan Assassination attempt. He was the darling of the Repugs. Any cop with half a brain and half a day's investigation would have some much information that the first conclusion was that H.W. was the prime suspect. Nobody, literally nobody dared to investigate it, though.

And that's the real power of the BFEE / Elite clubs.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:08 AM
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16. The Phony War on Drugs

Chapter -XX- The Phony War on Drugs

Tout le monde me prend pour un homme de bien; Mais la verite pure est que je ne vaux rien.

Moliere, Le Tartuffe

An indispensable component of the mythical media profile which George Bush has built up over the years to buttress his electoral aspirations has been his role as an anti-drug fighter. His first formally scheduled prime time presidential television address to the nation in September, 1989 was devoted to announcing his plans for measures to combat the illegal narcotics that continued to inundate the sreets of the United States. During his 1988 election campaign, Bush pointed with astounding complacency to his record as President Reagan's designated point man in the administration's war on drugs.

In his acceptance speech to the Republican National Convention in 1988, Bush stated: "I want a drug-free America. Tonight, I challenge the young people of our country to shut down the drug dealers around the world....My Administration will be telling the dealers, "Whatever we have to do, we'll do, but your day is over. You're history.'"

Indeed, Bush has an impressive resume of bureaucratic titles to back up his claim to be America's top anti-drug fighter. On January 28, 1982, Reagan created the South Florida Task Force under Bush's high-profile leadership to coordinate the efforts of the various federal agencies to stem the tide of narcotics into Bush's old family bailiwick. On March 23, 1983, Bush was placed in charge of the National Narcotics Border Interdiction System, which was supposed to staunch the drug flow over all US borders. In August, 1986 US officials presented to their Mexican counterparts a scheme called Operation Alliance, a new border enforcement initiative that was allegedly to do for the US-Mexican border area what the South Florida Task Force had allegedly already done for the southeastern states. George Bush was appointed chief of Operation Alliance, which involved 20 federal agencies, 500 additional federal officers, and a budget of $266 million.

To crown all these efforts, Bush sought to obtain a cameo role for a brief appearance on the television series Miami Vice. He was perhaps inspired by his mentor, Kissinger, who had walked through a cameo of his own on Dynasty. But Bush was unable to accomplish his dream.

The drug plague is an area in which the national interest requires results. Illegal narcotics are one of the most important causes of the dissolution of American society at the present time. To interdict the drug flows and to prosecute the drug money launderers at the top of the banking community would have represented a real public service. But Bush had no intention of seriously pursuing such goals. For him, the war on drugs was a cruel hoax, a cynical exercise in demagogic self-promotion, designed in large part to camouflage activities by himself and his networks that promoted drug trafficking. A further shocking episode that has come to light in this regard involves Bush's 14-year friendship with a member of Meyer Lansky's Miami circles who sold Bush his prized trophy, the Cigarette boat Fidelity.

Bush's war on drugs was a rhetorical and public relations success for a time. On February 16, 1982, in a speech on his own turf in Miami, Florida, Bush promised to use sophisticated military aircraft to track the airplanes used by smugglers. Several days later, Bush ordered the US Navy to send in its E2C surveillance aircraft for this purpose. If these were not available in sufficient numbers, said Bush, he was determined to bring in the larger and more sophisticated AWACS early warning aircraft to do the job. But Bush's skills as an interagency expediter left something to be desired: by May, two of the four E2C aircraft that originally had been in Florida were transferred out of the state. By June, airborne surveillance time was running a mere 40 hours per month, not the 360 hours promised by Bush, prompting Rep. Glenn English to call hearings on this topic. By October, 1982 the General Accounting Office issued an opinion in which it found "it is doubtful whether the task force can have any substantial long-term impact on drug availability." But the headlines were grabbed by Bush, who stated in 1984 that the efforts of his task force had eliminated the marijuana trade in south Florida. That was an absurd claim, but it sounded very good. When Francis Mullen. Jr., the administrator of the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) criticized Bush for making this wildly inaccurate statement, he was soon ousted from his post at the DEA.

In 1988, Democratic Congressman Glenn English concluded that Bush's "war on drugs" had been fought with "little more than lip service and press releases." English wrote: "There has been very little substance behind the rhetoric, and some of the major interdiction problems have yet to be resolved. The President assigned...Bush to coordinate and direct federal antidrug-abuse programs among the various law enforcement agencies. However, eight years later it is apparent that the task has not been accomplished." No observer still stationed in reality could dispute this very pessimistic assessment.

But the whole truth is much uglier. We have documented in detail how the Iran-contra drug-running and gun-running operations run out of Bush's own office played their role in increasing the heroin, crack, cocain, and marijuana brought into this country. We have reviewed Bush's relations with his close supporters in the Wall Street LBO gang, much of whose liquidity is derived from narcotics payments which the banking system is eager to recycle and launder. We recall Bush's 1990 meeting with Syrian President Hafez Assad, who is personally one of the most prolific drug pushers on the planet, and whom Bush embraced as an ally during the Gulf crisis.

Bush's "soft on drugs" profile went further. In the Pakistan-Afghanistan theatre, for example, it was apparent that certain pro-Khomeini formations among the Afghan guerillas were, like the contras, more interested in trafficking in drugs and guns than in fighting the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul and the Red Army forces that maintained it in power. There were reports that such activities on the part of such guerilla groups were seconded by parts of the Pakistani secret intelligence services, the Inter-Service Intelligence, and the National Logistics Cell. According to these reports, Bush's visit to Pakistan's President Gen. Zia ul-Haq in May, 1984 was conducted in full awareness of these phenomnena. Nevertheless, Bush chose to praise the alleged successes of the Zia government's anti-narcotics program which, Bush intoned, was a matter of great "personal interest" to him. Among those present at the banquet where Bush made these remarks were, reportedly, several of the officials most responsible for the narcotics trafficking in Pakistan. But there is an even more flagrant aspect of Bush's conduct which can be said to demolish once and for all the myth of the "war on drugs" and replace it with a reality so sinister that it goes beyond the imagination of most citizens.


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:00 PM
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39. Tarpley and Chaitkin pegged Poppy: "American Caligula."
(T)here is an even more flagrant aspect of Bush's conduct which can be said to demolish once and for all the myth of the "war on drugs" and replace it with a reality so sinister that it goes beyond the imagination of most citizens.

And that picture captures Dorian Grey Bush perfectly.

This one depicts seemslikeadream capturing the BFEE by the horns when she's not on DU (That's her bird, "Koi," in the background):

Taming of Evil
2000, by Renata Pabulinkas
oil on canvas, 58 x 62-inches

And now for testimony depicting Big Media's role in all this.

Kicking a Dead Man

By Marc Cooper
LA Weekly. Posted December 18, 2004.

First the L.A. Times helped kill off reporter Gary Webb's career. Then, eight years later, after Webb committed suicide, it publishes a scandalous and shameful obituary.


The Times' Washington-based reporter McManus, who spent most of the late '80s and early '90s as one of the less-curious fourth-estate stenographers to the Reagan/Bush administrations, relied principally on CIA sources to vindicate the CIA in the anti-Webb series. Citing a "former CIA official" named Vince Cannistraro, McManus wrote that "CIA officials insist they knew nothing" about the Contra-drug dealers named by Webb. Cannistraro, however, was more fit to be a subject of the Times investigation than a source. Over the length of the Times series it was never mentioned that Cannistraro had actually been in charge of the CIA-Contra operation in the early '80s, that is, before moving on to help supervise the covert program of CIA-backed Islamic guerrillas in Afghanistan (who themselves were, and continue to be, knee-deep in the heroin trade).

Which brings us back to this week's obit written by Nita Lelyveld and Steve Hymon. The lead and body of the obit focus on the discrediting of Webb by the L.A. Times and fail to mention his Pulitzer until a dozen paragraphs down in the story.

Long before we learn of Webb's Pulitzer, won in 1990 for reporting on the Loma Prieta earthquake, Lelyveld and Hymon obediently recite their own papers indictment of Webbs expos on the CIA-drug connection. They quote the 1996 McManus slam on Webb, saying, "...the available evidence, based on an extensive review of court documents and more than 100 interviews in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington and Managua, fails to support any of allegations."

It's an astounding and nasty little piece of postmortem butchery on Webb (which never mentions that after his series appeared, Webb was voted the 1996 Journalist of the Year by the Northern California Society of Professional Journalists). Absolutely missing from Webb's obit is that it was his series that directly forced both the CIA and the Justice Department to conduct internal investigations into the scope of any links between the Agency and drug dealers.

Worse, the results of those investigations proved that the core of what Webb alleged was, indeed, true and accurate. When CIA Inspector General Frederick Hitz presented the findings of his internal investigation to Congress in 1998 (two years after Webb's piece and the ensuing Times vindication of the CIA), he revealed for the first time an eye-popping agreement that the CIA had cemented with the Justice Department: Between 1982 and 1995, the CIA was exempted from informing the DOJ if its non-employee agents, paid or unpaid, were dealing drugs. In short, it was the policy of the U.S. government to turn a blind eye to such connections.

The same report by the CIA inspector general, by the way, admitted what we all knew in any case that those connections did, in fact, exist.


More blood on the wicked claws of Corporate McPravda.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:23 AM
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by Michael Ieikoff


White House speech-writers thought it was the perfect visual for President Bush's first prime-time address to the nation--a dramatic prop that would show how the drug trade had spread to the president's own neighborhood. "This is crack cocaine," Bush solemnly announced, holding up a plastic bag filled with a white chunky substance in his Sept. 5 speech on drug policy. It was "seized a few days ago in a park across the street from the White House .... It could easily have been heroin or PCP."

But obtaining the crack was no easy feat. To match the words crafted by the speechwriters. Drug Enforcement Administration agents lured a suspected District drug dealer to Lafayette Park four days before the speech so they could make what appears to have been the agency's first undercover crack buy in a park better known for its location across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House than for illegal drug activity, according to officials familiar with the case.

In fact, when first contacted by an undercover DEA agent posing as a drug buyer, the teenage suspect seemed baffled by the agent's reguest.

'Where the (expletive) is the White House?" he replied in a conversation that was secretly tape-recorded by the DEA.


DEA had planned to make an arrest this week, but the attempt fell through when the suspect failed to show up for a scheduled meeting with a DEA undercover agent. Another attempt will be made next week when a federal grand jury is expected to return indictments against him and possibly some of his confederates, said DEA spokesman Mario Perez.

Kevin Zeese, a defense lawyer who specializes in drug cases, said DEA's efforts to maneuvcr the suspect to the area around the White House may enable his lawyer to argue that he was a victim of "outrageous government conduct." This would not help his defense against the three earlier crack sales, Zeese said. Nevertheless, "I think it's disgusting," he said. "The situation is not bad enough that they have to create a false situation! It's the government creating a hoax so they can rev up the war effort."

Officials said that communications director David Demarest, who oversees the speech-writers, then asked Cabinet affairs secretary David Bates to contact the Justice Department about getting the drugs. Instructions to Justice were to find some crack that fit the description in the speech, not to go out and arrest someone just lor the speech, aides said.


"Any possibility of you moving it down to the White House?" Millford asked, according to McMullan. "Evidently, the president wants to show it could be bought anywhere." Millford did not return phone calls from a reporter. Frank Shults, chief public affairs spokesman at DEA headquarters, confirmed that Millford called McMullan and asked if there were any active cases near the White House. "The location of undercover buys are highly negotiable between the buyer and the seller," he said. "That vicinity was as logical as any other location."

At that point, the undercover DEA agent called the suspect and attempted to set up a meeting to buy crack in Lafayette Park. But making arrangements proved difficult. At first, the suspect seemed not to know what or where the White House was, McMullan said. When finally told it was the residence of the president, he replied. "0h, you mean where Reagan lives." The meeting came off as planned. At about 11:30 a.m. on Sept 1, the undercover agent met the suspect and purchased three ounces of crack from him for about $2,400 according to the DEA. Another DEA agent who was hiding nearby took color photographs of the transaction, McMullan said.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:15 PM
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40. Buying cocaine for the White House reminds me of where Jebthro fits in.
Like Ma Corleone told Larry King, it's only a matter of time till Fredo steps down and Michael steps in to the Family bizziness.

Where the Bush boys get their appreciation for "My Pet Goat."

Regarding drug dealing in D.C., I submit the following:

The Family that Preys Together

Jeb: Liaison to Anti-Castro Right

George Herbert Walker Bush's second eldest son, John Ellis or Jeb, was also linked to clandestine schemes in support of the Contras. Soon after congressional prohibition in late 1984, Jeb helped put a right-wing Guatemalan politician, Dr. Mario Castejon, in touch with Oliver North. Jeb acted as the Reagan administration's unofficial link with the Contras and Nicaraguan exiles in Miami.

Jeb was contacted in February 1985 by a friend of Castejon, who gave him a letter from Castejon to be passed on to then Vice President Bush. In his letter Castejon, a pediatrician and later an unsuccessful National Conservative Party presidential candidate, requested a meeting with George Bush to discuss a proposed medical aid project for the Contras. Jeb forwarded the letter to his father. In a March 3, 1985, letter, Vice President Bush expressed interest in Castejon's proposal to create an international medical brigade.

"I might suggest, if you are willing, that you consider meeting with Lt. Colonel Oliver North of the President's National Security Council Staff at a time that would be convenient for you," Bush wrote. "My staff has been in contact with Lt. Col. North concerning your projects and I know that he would be most happy to see you. You may feel free to make arrangements to see Lt. Colonel North, if you wish, by corresponding directly with him at the White House or by contacting Philip Hughes of my staff."

Castejon later met with North in the White House, where he also saw President Ronald Reagan. When Castejon returned to Washington for a second visit, he was introduced to members of North's secret Contra support network, including retired Maj. Gen. John Singlaub and Contra leader Adolfo Calero. Castejon also met with a group of doctors working with Rob Owen, North's liaison with the Contras.

"He was offering us a pipeline into Guatemala," said Henry Whaley, a former arms dealer who said he was asked by his intelligence community connections to help Castejon. Whaley was optimistic about opening a new shipping route to the Contras through Guatemala. "If you can move Band-Aids," he reportedly said, "you can move bullets."

With Castejon, Whaley prepared a proposal to the State Department for the purchase of medical supplies for the Contras from the Department's newly established Nicaraguan Humanitarian Assistance Office. The document included requests for mobile field hospitals and light aircraft to evacuate wounded Contra guerrillas. Congress approved $27 million in "humanitarian" aid to the Contras in 1985. The Castejon proposal was hand-delivered to TGS International Limited in the Virginia suburbs of Washington. Whaley said he sent the report to TGS so it would be "quietly" forwarded to the CIA. TGS International is owned by Ted Shackley, who was CIA Associate Deputy Director of Operations when Bush Sr. headed the Agency in 1976-77.

Jeb had another Contra connection in his involvement with Miguel Recarey, Jr., a right-wing Cuban who headed the International Medical Centers (IMC) in Miami. In 1985 and 1986, Recarey and his associates gave more than $25,000 in contributions to political action committees controlled by then Vice President Bush. In 1986, Recarey hired Jeb, a real estate developer, to find a new headquarters for IMC. Jeb was paid a $75,000 fee, even though he never located a new building.


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:43 AM
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19. "Drugs, the CIA and Faustian Alliances" by John Stanton
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:26 PM
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41. You forgot Sibel Edmonds!
Gee, bobthedrummer! You just wanted to see if I read any of this stuff what gets posted, eh? That's some article you GOOGLED, there*.

Drugs, the CIA and Faustian Alliances

byJohn Stanton 28 June 2004

The URL of this article is:


Drugs, Faustian Alliances and Sibel Edmonds

Taking Turkey as the focal point and with a start date of 1998, it is easy to speculate why Sibel Edmonds indicated that there was a convergence of US and foreign counter-narcotics, counter-terrorism and US national security and economic interests all of which were too preoccupied to surface critical information warning Americans of the attacks of September 11, 2001. After all, who would have believed drug runners operating in Central Asia? And besides, President Clinton was promoting Turkey, one of the worlds top drug transit points, as a model for Muslim-Western cooperation and a country necessary to reshape the Middle East.

The FBIs Office of International Operations, in conjunction with the CIA and the US State Department counter-narcotics section, the United Kingdoms MI6, Israels Mossad, Pakistans ISI, the US DEA, Turkeys MIT, and the governments and intelligence agencies of dozens of nations, were in one way or another involved in the illicit drug trade either trying to stop it or benefit from it. What can be surmised from the public record is that from 1998 to September 10, 2001, the War on Drugs kept bumping into the nascent War on Terror and new directions in US foreign policy.

Its easy to imagine the thousands of drug couriers, middlemen, financiers and lab technicians moving back and forth between Pakistan and Turkey, and over to Western Europe and the United States, and the tidbits of information they gleaned from their sponsors as they traveled. As information gathering assets for the intelligence agencies of the world, they must have been invaluable. And given the dozens of foreign intelligence services working the in the counter-narcotics/terrorism fields, the "chatter" that just dozens of well-placed operatives may have overheard about attacks against Western targets must have found its way into the US intelligence apparatus. But, again, who could believe the audacity of non-state actors organizing a domestic attack against the supreme power of the day, the USA? Implementing a new strategic direction and business deals may have overcome the wacky warnings from the counter-narcotics folks.

Back in the late 1990s and early 2000, who would have believed the rants of a drug courier from Afghanistan saying that some guy named Bin Laden was going to attack America, particularly if it involved Americas newest friend, Turkey? Or that a grand design to reshape Central Asia and the Middle East with Turkey and Israel as pivot points was being pushed by the Clinton Administration as a matter of national policy.

The historical record shows that the US War on Drugs and the nascent War on Terror kept colliding with not only within the US intelligence, policy and business apparatus, but also with European strategic and business interests. Turkey continues its push for entry into the European Union and the USA wants that to happen as the June 2004 meeting of NATO, and President Bushs attendance under dangerous circumstances, in Turkey demonstrates. Turkey is one of the USAs and Europes top arms buyers and is located near what could be some of the biggest oil and natural gas fields in the world. At this point its worth noting that the one of the FBIs tasks is to counter industrial espionage and to engage in it. Where big arms sales pit the US against its European competitors--as is the case in Turkey (particularly starting in 1998)--the FBI is busy making sure the US gets the edge over its competition. Allies are friends only so far.

Did warnings foretelling of an attack on American soil by Bin Ladens crew get lost in the War on Drugs or the US national and economic interest in troublesome Turkey? It seems only Ms Edmonds knows.


* Gotcha! Just kidding!

Here's what I did before I discovered the Internets:

Which of course reminds me to thank you for remembering Sibel Edmonds. For those who don't know who she is, Sibel Edmonds is the "FBI Whistleblower" who translated more than some ignored 9-11 warnings for the FBI. The brave Ms. Edmonds said she translated tapes that named 10 high government officials as being involved in international drug trafficking, money laundering and campaign finance fraud using that money.

Some transnational criminal enterprise, that BFEE! It's an empire!

Sibel Edmonds' Case for Government Transparency and Accountability
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:46 AM
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52. Sibel Edmonds: Turkey, drugs and 9/11
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 10:38 AM by seemslikeadream
from Minstrel Boy

Interesting analysis by John Stanton of the link of international drug trafficking to the 9/11 conspiracy, which pays attention to the Turkish link alluded to by Sibel Edmonds. (Remember, while an FBI translator, she was courted by a Turkish spy ring which appears to have operated with the agency's sanction.)

Here's a memorable quote: "50 billion dollars worth of foreign debt is nothing, it is two lorry loads of heroin."

Turkey, Drugs, Faustian Alliances & Sibel Edmonds
by John Stanton
June 29, 2004

Taking Turkey as the focal point and with a start date of 1998, it is easy to speculate why Sibel Edmonds indicated that there was a convergence of US and foreign counter-narcotics, counter-terrorism and US national security and economic interests all of which were too preoccupied to surface critical information warning Americans of the attacks of September 11, 2001. After all, who would have believed drug runners operating in Central Asia? And besides, President Clinton was promoting Turkey, one of the worlds top drug transit points, as a model for Muslim-Western cooperation and a country necessary to reshape the Middle East.

The FBIs Office of International Operations, in conjunction with the CIA and the US State Department counter-narcotics section, the United Kingdoms MI6, Israels Mossad, Pakistans ISI, the US DEA, Turkeys MIT, and the governments and intelligence agencies of dozens of nations, were in one way or another involved in the illicit drug trade either trying to stop it or benefit from it. What can be surmised from the public record is that from 1998 to September 10, 2001, the War on Drugs kept bumping into the nascent War on Terror and new directions in US foreign policy.


In 1998, the US Department of State (DOS) was finally forced to admit that Turkey was a major refining and transit point for the flow of heroin from Southwest Asia to Western Europe, with small quantities of the stuff finding its way to the streets of the USA. In that same year, Kendal Nezan, writing for Le Monde Diplomatique, reported that MIT, and the Turkish National Police force were actively supporting the trade in illicit drugs not only for fun and profit, but out of desperation.

"After the Gulf War in 1991, Turkey found itself deprived of the all-important Iraqi market and, since it lacked significant oil reserves of its own, it decided to make up for the loss by turning more massively to drugs. The trafficking increased in intensity with the arrival of the hawks in power, after the death in suspicious circumstances of President Turgut zal in April 1993. According to the minister of interior, the war in Kurdistan had cost the Turkish exchequer upwards of $12.5 billion. According to the daily Hrriyet, Turkeys heroin trafficking brought in $25 billion in 1995 and $37.5 billion in 1996...Only criminal networks working in close cooperation with the police and the army could possibly organize trafficking on such a scale. Drug barons have stated publicly, on Turkish television and in the West, that they have been working under the protection of the Turkish government and to its financial benefit. The traffickers themselves travel on diplomatic passports... the drugs are even transported by military helicopter from the Iranian border."

Some other threads on Edmonds and the 9/11 drug connection:

Heroin, Al Qaeda and the Florida Flight School

DOJ Asked FBI Translator To Change Pre 9-11 Intercepts

Explosive new Sibel Edmonds interview

State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:43 AM
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56. Women in and out of uniform are a big part of the opposition to BFEE
I haven't forgot Sibel Edmonds.

Demoted Abu Ghraib scapegoat Col. Karpinski has always wanted to name the names in the chain of command, that's why she's no longer a General-I support her efforts.

Then there's Karen Kwiatkowski defending our Constitution, she released an article called the New Pentagon Papers that talked about Douglas Feith's Pentagon OSP staging a coup of sorts in military intelligence in the rampup to the Iraq invasion.

The New Pentagon Papers

Then there's Rowley, the woman FBI agent in Minnesota who was right on the 9/11 hijackers flight school connections-whatever happened to her?

That pic is priceless btw!:hi:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:48 AM
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57. Have you seen this about Karen Kwiatkowski bob?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:09 PM
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65. Isn't it weird that so many women have opposed these turds?
Remember when the war first started a female college basketball player was turning her back on the national anthem? She was booed and called traitor. I can only imagine the threats she received.

Well it turned out she was right.

On the First Anniversary of the War in Iraq
Interview: College Basketball Player Toni Smith Took a Stand on the Court

by Dave Zirin
Published on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 by

One year ago, Toni Smith was just another Division III athlete grinding through her senior year as Captain of the Women's basketball team at Manhattanville College. Yet her decision to protest on the court at the start of the US War vs. Iraq and turn her back on the American Flag during the national anthem, sparked debate throughout the sports and political world. Today Toni Smith is living in New York City, working for a young people's mentoring program called New York Youth at Risk ( One year later Toni Smith speaks to Dave Zirin, News Editor of the Prince George's Post, looking back on the events of the last year.

Dave Zirin: It's been almost a year since you took your demonstration to the court. When did you first see the need to make a stand and why did you feel it was so important to take the actions that you did?

Toni Smith: I'm from a mixed racial and ethnic background. My mom is Jewish, and my dad is Black, white and Cherokee. I was learning about the prison industrial complex and the wars against Native Americans. It made me very angry but I never paid attention to how this history played out on the court. I never thought about the National Anthem because I went to alternative schools. I never had to say the pledge. I never had to stand and salute anything before class. On the court I would just stand and let the time go by.

So last year I was talking with my boyfriend. His family's very politically active also. They don't ever stand for the National Anthem, and they're very clear on their position. We were talking about all the policies we dislike, and he said "why do you stand for the anthem at your games?" And I said, "Well I never really thought about it. I'm the captain of the team, and I have to be a team leader and a good role model." He said "but that has nothing to do with who you are. This is not what you believe in. You just told me how much you dislike this flag and what it stands for." He's part Black and part Cherokee also and he said to me "This flag represents the slaughter of our ancestors", and I said 'you're absolutely right.' We had a game a few days later, and as we stood up to sing the National Anthem I said no.


Bob, I know you know I know you know that you've forgotten more about the BFEE than I'll ever know. Thanks for giving a damn!
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:20 PM
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22. Topless Christina kick

The depravity you have to go through nowadays to keep a story from drifting to page 3 :shrug:

Well at least it is all about Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n Roll...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:55 PM
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27. nominated
too bad so many witnesses are dead...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:41 PM
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42. Too many gone. Here's one we need to protect...

Sibel Edmonds began working for the FBI shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, translating top-secret documents pertaining to suspected terrorists. She was fired in the spring of 2002 after reporting her concerns about sabotage, intimidation, corruption and incompetence to superiors. She first gained wide public attention in October of that year when she appeared on 60 Minutes on CBS and charged that the FBI, State Department, and Pentagon had been infiltrated by Turkish individuals suspected of ties to terrorism. On October 18, 2002, at the request of FBI Director Robert Mueller, Attorney General Ashcroft imposed a gag order on Ms. Edmonds, citing possible damage to diplomatic relations or national security. Edmonds is a key witness in a pending class-action suit filed by 9/11 families against the government. The following interview, conducted this past weekend for almost three hours by telephone, reveals sordid new details about U.S. intelligence practices.


SE: Everything from drugs to money laundering to arms sales. And yes, there are certain convergences with all these activities and international terrorism.

CD: So with these organizations we're talking about a lot of money

SE: Huge, just massive. They don't deal with 1 million or 5 million dollars, but with hundreds of millions.

CD: From your previous testimony and the examples I want to bring up next, it would seem that organized crime with terrorist links is really holding the reins inside powerful governments, even the American one. No?

SE: That may be, but I don't know. I didn't get high enough up on the ladder to find out. With all of this suspicious and unprecedented "state secrets" obstructionism from Ashcroft, it might seem that way, but I don't have any direct information.

CD: But what do think, within departments such as the Pentagon and the State Department. Do you suspect certain high officials may be profiting from terrorist-linked organized crime?

SE: I can't say anything specific with regards to these departments, because I didn't work for them. But as for the politicians, what I can say is that when you start talking about huge amounts of money, certain elected officials become automatically involved. And there are different kinds of campaign contributions legal and illegal, declared and undeclared.

CD: Could this apparent toleration of dangerous criminal groups in the midst possibly be interpreted to mean that American policy is driven by the "ends justify the means" philosophy?

SE: But how are the ends possibly met by such activities? To this day, I just can't see how. What is happening does not benefit 99.9 percent of Americans just a very small elite.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:25 PM
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59. Kick
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:30 PM
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32. I recall Rep Maxine Waters raised hell about the proliferation of crack
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 03:31 PM by oasis
cocaine.Dealers/users had profound impact in her district (inner city Los Angeles) during the 80's. Maxine questioned whether higher ups had a hand in its distribution.

The outspoken member of congress was criticized as being a conspiracy nut.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:56 PM
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43. She started the downfall of Deutch. 4 that alone we should be grateful...

But for a while, a few minutes actually, there was a glimmer of hope.

CIA-Crack Connection

Needs Deeper Scrutiny

The DEVASTATION of America's inner cities by crack cocaine is hard to overstate.


The toll has been so harsh on the African-American community that there long have been whispers on the streets that crack was a government plot against blacks.

The suspicious of U.S. government complicity in the origins of the crack trade - tacit or otherwise - have gained new credence with the case of L.A. drug dealer "Freeway Rick" Ross, whose web of connections was examined in a recent series by the San Jose Mercury News. The newspaper presented evidence that Ross was in a drug ring with ties to the Contras, the CIA-backed guerrilla force that tried to topple the Nicaraguan government in the 1980s.

The Mercury News stories suggest that, at the very least, the Central Intelligence Agency knew or should have known that its Contras were profiting from the L.A. crack trade. These allegations must be pursued. Aggressively. Independently. Credibly.

CIA Director John Deutch has emphatically denied any agency connection with the drug trade, but his words are not going to be enough to erase the concerns.


Allegations of this gravity merit a select committee, with staff and subpoena powers, as proposed by Representative Maxine Waters, D-Los Angeles, in HR 520. It would be similar to committees convened to investigate Watergate and the Iran-Contra affair. The exploitation of America's inner cities deserves no less scrutiny.


And hope is all we need to get started.

So, 'ere's the part where Deutsch being a person of interest comes in:

who was john deutch spying for?

by Preston Peet ( - October 18, 2000

Ex-CIA Director John M. Deutch has admitted taking home "enormously sensitive material," to his unsecured home-computer, and his hand picked successor to the job told Congress that it is impossible to know if the computers were hacked into, or if secrets were lost. Nearly ignored in the reports is the fact that Deutch was apparently using Citibank's private banking service.

Beyond the facts that Deutch's computer was used for accessing porn sites, and that he received an e-mail from a Russian scientist on the unsecured computer, is the fact that even after Deutch had his top secret government clearance removed in a punitive measure by George Tenet, he did not lose his Pentagon industrial security clearance. This was good for Deutch, who besides working as a Professor at 'Massachusetts Institute of Technology', is a paid consultant to various defense contractors, like 'Raytheon Corp', the 'MIT', and 'SAIC Corps', a Fortune 500 high-technology research and engineering company which in 1999 alone pulled in US$8 billion in new business, with net earnings of over US$150 million. According to retired US Navy Admiral Eugene J Carroll, the total cost to US taxpayers by the missile attack on Osama bin Laden's camp, and the pharmaceutical company in Khartoum in 1998, was US$91 million, for the missiles Raytheon built. Is this where Deutch made the money to warrant a personal banking relationship with Citibank, itself under investigation for massive amounts of money laundering by the US Congress?

In the 'New York Times' newspaper (February 1st, 2000), it was disclosed that Deutsch had been accessing the Internet at home, on unsecured CIA computers throughout his tenure as CIA Director, through an AOL account, and through Citibank's personal banking web-site. When Deutch was leaving his post at the CIA in December 1996, he explained to CIA computer services officials that he was using the computers for his "personal banking," and wanted to keep the CIA computers after his resignation. Deutch was informed that was allright, but only if he would agree to a "no-fee" consultant position with the CIA. Deutsch readily agreed. A classified report by the CIA Inspector General (July, 1999), notes that Deutch did not want to use secure computers at CIA headquarters because "he was afraid other CIA officials would see what he was writing," wrote the 'New York Times' newspaper.

'Citibank Private' banking services have been under investigation by the Senate 'Governmental Affairs' subcommittee for over a year. Citibank's private banking services cater to the ultra-rich, ultra-corrupt, politically connected who have at least US$3 million in their accounts. Other notables who have used Citibank's special private service include Raul Salinas, brother of a former President of Mexico, and who laundered at least US$100 million, the President of Gabon, Omar Bongo, who is reported to have more than US$50 million in his secret account, and the sons of Nigeria's late military dictator Sani Abacha, who have amassed more than US$110 million by some figures.

It's no wonder wars keep lighting up around the world, when the defense industry uses former Pentagon and intelligence officials as their government lobbyists, and consultants. In one of the most blatant examples of his membership in the secret team, as Fletcher Prouty described it once, Deutsch told the Senate Intelligence Committee on Monday February 7th, 2000, that he would not testify the following Wednesday (February 9th, 2000), citing time restraints. The committee is unsure at this time if he will testify at all.

Who is it the 'Corporation Intelligence Agency', oops, I mean 'Central Intelligence Agency' working for again? The US citizenry, or the military/industrial/law enforcement complex?


The BFEE. In business since November 22, 1963.

PS: Someone please ask me how Haiti and Poppa Doc and Baby Doc and the BFEE fit in.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:51 AM
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47. Rep. Waters was called by Aristide when the recent coup of Haiti took
place. He and his wife were in touch with her by phone as they were being wisked off to a destination undisclosed to them.

Maxine was on the news telling the world a coup had taken place. She was again called a conspiracy nut.

Octafish, I anxiously await any background you can provide on how Poppa and Baby Doc fit into the overall picture.

Thanks in advance.:yourock:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:55 PM
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66. Poppy Doc Bush and Papa Doc Duvalier go waaaay back.
Aristide told me the Generals ran Dope, Inc. on Haiti. Personally. They are the direct political heirs of Francoise "Papa Doc" and Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier (below, right).

Poppy Doc Bush and Baby Doc Bush.

I met Jean Bertrand-Aristide after he was deposed by the generals (the FIRST American coup) in the early 90s. The former priest and president of Haiti came to metro Detroit and spoke before the Cranbrook Peace Foundation.

The newspaper I then worked for didnt see reason for sending me to cover Aristides speech. The editors werent BFEE, but the events on a Caribbean island just werent local enough for their budget or tastes. So, I went on my own time.

The Cranbrook people were happy to see me. They wanted, of course, as much coverage as possible. So, they invited me and the other interested reporter types to have at him for an hour before his address.

Im ashamed to report, in one of two nations largest media markets, only a couple of CBC radio reporters out of Windsor and one local Detroit TV crew bothered to show. I was the lone print guy. Anyway

Aristide answered every question asked in English or French. He also told us about life in Haiti, where there were four doctors to care for 4 million people. Another interesting stat: One percent of the population own 99-percent of the property.

I asked Aristide what the United States could do to help him restore democracy to Haiti? Aristide said all Poppy Doc Bush had to do was pick up the phone, call the generals and say, Get out, and they would quit their coup and the first democratically elected leader of Haiti in 75 years would be returned to power. Bush didn't and Aristide wasn't until Clinton sent the US Marines, many years and many Haitian lives later.

The reason for Bush Senior's inaction? Aristide said he didnt know the answer, but he suspected Bushs politics favored the landowners over the masses. (Sounds familiar, I then thought and still think today.)

Aristide said that the generals were deep into the wholesale cocaine importation business. Now who would be their partner in all that? Besides the wealthy landowners, for whom the Generals worked, I mean.

A final point: Remember the BFEE turd Jesse Helms called Aristide a murderer who necklaced his victims. That's odd, because Aristide is a former Catholic priest who survived an assassination attempt during Mass. He wasn't really into Liberation Theology, but believed that the people deserve more than the scraps.

Sounds like the US is heading in the same direction under Baby Doc Bush.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:23 AM
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70. Leave it to "Baby Doc Bush" to undo another Clinton success. As for
Jesse Helms, he has no use for lefties, foreigners or blacks. Three strikes against Aristide before the information about Haiti ever reached Jesse's desk.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:06 PM
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64. Conclusive Evidence of U.S. Role in Kidnapping and Coup
As Bush Administration Scrambles to Shore Up Appointed Haitian Regime Commission to Present Conclusive Evidence of U.S. Role in Kidnapping and Coup

Date: Wednesday, April 7
Time: 6:30- 9:30 pm
Location: The Whitman Theatre at Brooklyn College

Panel to include: Rep. Maxine Waters, Rep. Major Owens, Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, Ossie Davis, Gil Noble, Amy Goodman, Ron Daniels, and other prominent activists and journalists

The Bush Administration is facing a growing crisis over its role in the coup in Haiti and the kidnapping of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who continues to speak out about his abduction by the U.S. The 15-member organization of Caribbean nations, CARICOM, has refused to recognize the U.S.-installed regime and has called for an investigation, despite intense pressure and threats from the U.S. The 53-member African Union has raised the same demand.

On Wednesday, April 7, the Haiti Commission of Inquiry will initiate a public inquiry of the role of the Bush Administration in the crisis in Haiti. Delegations that visited both the Central African Republic and the Dominican Republic will present conclusive evidence that U.S. Special Forces armed, trained, and directed the "rebels" and engineered the abduction of President Aristide.

The preliminary report from the Commission states, "two hundred U.S. Special Forces soldiers came to the Dominican Republic as part of 'Operation Jaded Task,' with special authorization from President Hiplito Mejia. We have received many reports that this operation was used to train Haitian rebels. We have received many consistent reports of Haitian rebel training centers at or near Dominican military facilities. We have received many consistent reports of guns transported from the Dominican Republic to Haiti, some across the land border, and others shipped by sea."

Johnnie Stevens of the International Action Center, a member of the delegation to the Central African Republic, said, "The U.S.-installed Prime Minister, Gerard Latortue, has hailed the paid mercenaries as freedom fighters, and had thus discredited himself among the Caribbean nations."

Secretary of State Colin Powell, in a desperate bid to lend some credibility to the Latortue government, is now visiting Haiti for the first time. This attempt to put U. S. weight behind the isolated colonial-style regime is a response to its growing isolation. Sara Flounders, of the International Action Center, said, "This visit by Powell is a sign of the Bush Administrations growing isolation and disarray. The U.S. is desperately trying to shore up a discredited regime in the face of international opposition to the appointed government of Haiti after the stinging rebuke directed at the U.S. by the recent CARICOM meeting." Flounders is a member of the Haiti Commission of Inquiry and was part of the delegation to the Central African Republic, where she visited with President Aristide shortly after his kidnapping.

Kim Ives from Haiti Progres, who was part of the delegation to the Dominican Republic, told the media, "In the course of our investigation here, we met with many Haitians who were forced to flee Haiti following the coup d'etat of Feb. 29. Their testimony gave very concrete names and faces to the stories of violence which we have heard that the so-called rebels, trained and assembled in the Dominican Republic, have carried out in Haiti over the past month. We were also touched by the tears of refugees who told us of how they are apprehensive over the fate of their loved ones left behind in Haiti."

Operation Jaded Task

From 2/23/2003:
US Troopers Secretly Land in Dominican Republic

The military training operation nicknamed Jaded Task took by surprise Dominican Foreign Ministry.

The US Army started today a training operation in the Caribbean country as part of routine maneuvers of the Southern Command. The landing had been kept so secretly that Dominican Foreign Ministry Hugo Tolentino was reported... by the TV.

As per the first reports, the US troops are training Dominican soldiers on anti-terrorism operations in the north of the island. When the national media started announcing the landing, country's Foreign Minister was having a lunch. Tolentino said that, as chief of the Dominican diplomacy, he should have been formally advised, as personally requested to the Dominican Army and the US Embassy to Santo Domingo.


However, the most interesting thing, here, is that the Communist Party of the Dominican Republic did know about the operations. This correspondent had access to two formal communications issued by the US Embassy including details of these activities, during the Communist summit held in Buenos Aires in January. There, the US ambassador to Santo Domingo reported about 10.000 soldiers coming to the Dominican Republic to take part of the training.

Moreover, the communists and other leftist forces in the country made know such documents to the local media in November. According to the denounce, US soldiers can freely enter and leave the country without any kind of permission. Also, they can do it through owned means of conveyance.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:06 PM
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67. Was this on C-SPAN?
Was it in the trade papers?


We know why it wasn't covered. Haiti's where the BFEE Air Force stops to refuel.

Haiti's drug money scourge

By Nick Caistor
Regional analyst

Concern over the Aristide government's involvement in illegal drugs trafficking has been cited as one of the main reasons why the US was keen to see the Haitian leader leave.

Haiti's drug links are thought to date back to "Baby Doc" Duvalier.


Another recent US Narcotics Control Report said about 8% of illegal drugs entering the United States had passed through Haiti.

Drug wars

The use of Haiti as a transhipment point for cocaine and other drugs produced in Latin America and destined for US markets is thought to have begun as long ago as the 1980s under "Baby Doc" Duvalier.

When he was ousted, the military groups fighting for control of Haiti were often said to be financed by drugs money.


Where've we seen that smirk before?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:09 AM
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69. "Aristide Kidnapping and Coup" panel included the late Ossie Davis.
Interesting, indeed, interesting. :think:

I was sickened when I saw Colin Powell lead a Memorial Day tribute to Ossie recently on PBS. Ruby Dee, Ossie's widow, gave an inspirational address near the end of the program. When she finished her remarks, slimy Colin grabbed her hugged and kissed her like she was family. :puke:

Ruby had to know the part Colin played in the coup and in the public relations coverup. :puke: She most likely did some of her best acting that evening by not wrecthing at Colin's touch.:puke:

On a positive note: Thanks seemslikeadream for your many valuable contributions to the DU boards.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:30 PM
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79. Always, always, always:
Cui bono?
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:48 PM
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33. Octafish, You're AWESOME!!!
Good Job!! This was VERY VERY INFORMATIVE. Thank you for the info.

America's Work Stories
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:34 PM
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44. Yo, Chicago1! What could be better than drugs? Oil?
How about oil and drugs? Gold?! Oil. Drugs.

Here's some truly awesome work...

Link City on these bed-wetting bastards:

Here's someone else who does truly awesome, work DU Friend!

Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of


by Michael C. Ruppert

FTW October 24, 2000 - The success of Bush Vice Presidential running mate Richard Cheney at leading Halliburton, Inc. to a five year $3.8 billion "pig-out" on federal contracts and taxpayer-insured loans is only a partial indicator of what may happen if the Bush ticket wins in two weeks. A closer look at available research, including an August 2, 2000 report by the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) at, suggests that drug money has played a role in the successes achieved by Halliburton under Cheney's tenure as CEO from 1995 to 2000. This is especially true for Halliburton's most famous subsidiary, heavy construction and oil giant, Brown and Root. A deeper look into history reveals that Brown and Root's past as well as the past of Dick Cheney himself, connect to the international drug trade on more than one occasion and in more than one way.
This June the lead Washington, D.C. attorney for a major Russian oil company connected in law enforcement reports to heroin smuggling and also a beneficiary of US backed loans to pay for Brown and Root contracts in Russia, held a $2.2 million fund raiser to fill the already bulging coffers of presidential candidate George W. Bush. This is not the first time that Brown and Root has been connected to drugs and the fact is that this "poster child" of American industry may also be a key player in Wall Street's efforts to maintain domination of the half trillion dollar a year global drug trade and its profits. And Dick Cheney, who has also come closer to drugs than most suspect, and who is also Halliburton's largest individual shareholder ($45.5 million), has a vested interest in seeing to it that Brown and Root's successes continue.

Of all American companies dealing directly with the U.S. military and providing cover for CIA operations few firms can match the global presence of this giant construction powerhouse which employs 20,000 people in more than 100 countries. Through its sister companies or joint ventures, Brown and Root can build offshore oil rigs, drill wells, construct and operate everything from harbors to pipelines to highways to nuclear reactors. It can train and arm security forces and it can now also feed, supply and house armies. One key beacon of Brown and Root's overwhelming appeal to agencies like the CIA is that, from its own corporate web page, it proudly announces that it has received the contract to dismantle aging Russian nuclear tipped ICBMs in their silos.

Furthermore, the relationships between key institutions, players and the Bushes themselves suggest that under a George "W" administration the Bush family and its allies may well be able, using Brown and Root as the operational interface, to control the drug trade all the way from Medellin to Moscow.

Originally formed as a heavy construction company to build dams, Brown and Root grew its operations via shrewd political contributions to Senate candidate Lyndon Johnson in 1948. Expanding into the building of oil platforms, military bases, ports, nuclear facilities, harbors and tunnels, Brown and Root virtually underwrote LBJ's political career. It prospered as a result, making billions on U.S. Government contracts during the Vietnam War. The "Austin Chronicle" in an August 28 Op-ed piece entitled "The Candidate From Brown and Root" labels Republican Cheney as the political dispenser of Brown and Root's largesse. According to political campaign records, during Cheney's five year tenure at Halliburton the company's political contributions more than doubled to $1.2 million. Not surprisingly, most of that money went to Republican candidates.

Independent news service "," also describes how in 1998, with Cheney as Chairman, Halliburton spent $8.1 billion to purchase oil industry equipment and drilling supplier Dresser Industries. This made Halliburton a corporation that will have a presence in almost any future oil drilling operation anywhere in the world. And it also brought back into the family fold the company that had once sent a plane - also in 1948 - to fetch the new Yale Graduate George H.W. Bush, to begin his career in the Texas oil business. Bush the elder's father, Prescott, served as a Managing Director for the firm that once owned Dresser, Brown Bothers Harriman.


With the BFEE may as well add gold, too.

There's always lots of money to be made by that BFEE.

Yo, Chicago1: YOU are awesome!

Thanks for the kind words and thanks for helping spread the word and hasten the day of the impeachment and subsequent trials for treason. May they all spend the rest of their natural days making little rocks out of big rocks.

PS: A most hearty welcome to DU, Chicago1!
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #44
58. Octafish..
you're very welcome. Also, thank you for the welcome. That's very kind of you.

We all have to KEEP POUNDING on this bunch so they'll get KICKED OUT of office. The day is coming.

America's Work Stories
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:23 PM
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35. kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:42 PM
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45. Ever wonder why the war on drugs never ends?
It's better for business that way.

Lot of mouths to feed.

Drug Kingpin.

Bowl one, two, three down
The lanes get changed again
each lane with 10 new ones.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:59 AM
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49. The "war" on drugs
is a scam.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:06 AM
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50. Thank you for your educational posts!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:01 AM
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54. You're welcome, lonestarnot! They're OUR educational posts.
My main point in putting together the original post is to get others aware of the "problem" and invite additional information and comment. My inspiration for the idea are the DUers, writers, authors, academics, journalists and the rest who've done the yeoman's work of compiling information on these criminals who've hijacked our country. Thanks to Al Gore's Internets, we can share the info, links and spread the truth.

BTW: DId you hear about the big symposium on CIA-drug connection? Most people, I'm sorry to write, probably haven't. The fault isn't with the organizer's PR person, but the nation's "free press."

cia-drugs symposium: a glimpse behind the veil

by Preston Peet ( - March 11, 2001

"Whatever system we are living under, it is not a democracy, and we are not protected by the Rule of Law", said Catherine Austin Fitts, the former US Assistant Secretary of State for Housing & Urban Development.

The US Government has known about drug trafficking among its assets, protected those assets helpful to whichever cause the US Government was backing at the time, and will never legalize any of the currently illicit substances as there is too much money being made from the War Against Some Drugs.

These were the overall messages at the CIA-Drugs Symposium in Eugene Oregon (June 10th, 2000). "I'm just really tired of the situation we've got here, and I really don't want my children to have to deal with it," said organizer Kris Millegan in his opening remarks. With a showing of the film Secret Heartbeat of America, by Daniel Hopsicker, detailing America's secret history during the later half of the 20th century setting the tone right away. This was not an event for those who didn't want to know the truth, or who believe what they don't know won't hurt them!

Speakers included Millegan, Hopsicker, Mike Ruppert (former LAPD narc and publisher of the newsletter From the Wilderness), Dedon Kamathi (former Black Panther, and still-outspoken activist), Catherine Austin Fitts (former Assistant Secretary of State for Housing & Urban Development under President Bush from 1989 to 1990), Cele Castillo, 12 veteran of the DEA, Rodney Stich (author and former FAA flight accident investigator), and Peter Dale Scott (former Canadian diplomat, Professor at University of California, Berkeley, and prolific author).

"This report is full of lies, flat out lies, in terms of what they've already admitted," remarked Scott, about the report released by CIA-man Rep. Porter Goss (R-FL). The US Select Committee on Intelligence (May 11, 2000) found "no evidence" of any involvement of any CIA employee or assets in the narcotics trade, at any time.


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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:35 AM
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51. You should create a blog and post your research there as well...
because then your very interesting posts are all in one place and more easy to access. One would not have to search the archives. Here on DU your posts kind of disappear into the "underground" of the servers after several days.

I just checked: is still available!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:41 AM
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55. Thanks, gandalf, chronicler of BCCI.
I appreciate you kind words and suggestion. Technical problems -- meaning my Apple runs a browser too ancient even by 1999 standards -- won't open up all the windows and do-hickeys on that site, however. I can get started on other blog sites, but that one, no. Maybe from work on Monday. We use PC PCs.

Or, I can ask a favor.... If you'd help me run the paperwork through, I'll send you my email addy, pass code, etc. Then I can post the following wherever it will do the most good.

No matter what, thanks, gandalf, chronicler of the BCCI report! Thanks for giving a damn.

Hey! Anybody interested in sending these or what they contain throughout the Internets, feel free.

Know your BFEE: Merchants of Death

Know your BFEE: R. James Woolsey, Turd of War

Know your BFEE: Sneering Dick Cheney, Superturd-Superrich-Supercrook

Know your BFEE: Bush Lied America into War

Know your BFEE: James R Bath Bush bin Laden Link

Know your BFEE: War Profiteers

Know your BFEE: Dead Men Tell No Tales

Know your BFEE: Rev. Sun Myung Moon OWNS Poppy Bush

Know your BFEE: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik

Know your BFEE: American Children Used in Radiation Experiments

Know your BFEE: Eugenics and the NAZIs - The California Connection

Know your BFEE: The Barreling Bushes

Know your BFEE: A Crime Line of Treason

Know your BFEE: How Smirko Got Rich

Know your BFEE: George W Bush did "community service" at Project P.U.L.L.

Know your BFEE: Vote Suppressor Supreme, the Turd Bill Rehnquist

Know your BFEE: George W Bush Knew 9-11 Was Coming and Did NOTHING!

Know your BFEE: Oliver North, Drug Dealer

Know your BFEE: Pat Robertson Incorporated a Gold Mine with a Terrorist

This ones not labeled Know Your BFEE, but its meant in the same prosecutorial spirit:

Poppy Bush Involved in JFK Assassination -- BFEE's Spooked!

Hey! These ALL are the result of teamwork by DUers who give a damn about doint something about the crooks and criminals who've hijacked America. Let's spread the truth. It will hasten the day when we get our country back and these gangsters end up where they belong -- the federal penitentiary at Leavenworth, making little rocks out of big rocks for the rest of the natural days.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:16 PM
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60. Demopedia is up again
So I moved most of this stuff there as well. It's a nice way to find it again, beacuse indeed it tends to be buried in DU. It's a bit sad that hardly anybody uses it, but it is a great place for research.
(The last one will give an overview of these posts again)

Anyway final kick from me ;)
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:36 AM
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72. Good idea. I forgot about it... nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:06 PM
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80. God Bless America
'Cause that's about all we can hope for now. Geez, after reading this thread, I wonder if I'll be able to sleep?

Thanks, DrDebug, Octafish, Seemslikeadream, et al, it's folks like yall who make me think we have hope. Or that there is no hope... I dunno, I can't make up my mind, so that's why I'm a kickin' this here thread, so that others may know, and so, in knowing, we may be able to defeat that bastard BFEE yet.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:19 PM
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61. They have an addiction to exploiting humanity.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 06:20 PM by Just Me
The reward for their exploitation is MONEY.

They don't give a damn about freedom or democracy or "compassion" or humanity.

They are ADDICTED to exploiting others, evil we MUST stop.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:18 PM
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68. Agree totaly, Just Me.
Poppy Bush was wont to call the average U.S. Citizen an "OFU."

It stands for "One Fodder Unit."

There's a report from Europe stating a leaked Pentagon Report show the world heading for ecological catastrophe. In about 20 years, the planet won't be able to sustain all the people and their cars and toasters.

Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years
Threat to the world is greater than terrorism

By Mark Townsend and Paul Harris in New York
The Observer - UK

Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.

A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.'

The findings will prove humiliating to the Bush administration, which has repeatedly denied that climate change even exists. Experts said that they will also make unsettling reading for a President who has insisted national defence is a priority.

The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades. He was the man behind a sweeping recent review aimed at transforming the American military under Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.


Gee. One would think Bush would open up to hearing about Global Warming. Then again, thanks to his Faith and Feith, these turds plan to outlive us, too.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:05 AM
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71. Octafish, here is something you may find interesting:

The mass media reward us with an image of the directors of global delinquency: vulgar men and women, dressed outlandishly, living in ridiculous mansions or behind the bars of a jail. But that image hides more than it shows: the real bosses of the modern Mafiosi, or their organization, or their real influence in the political and economic regions are never divulged publicly.

If you think the world of delinquency is synonymous with the world beyond the grave and darkness , you are mistaken. During the period called the "Cold War", organized crime acquired a more respectable image and began to function like any other modern company. It also penetrated the political and economic systems of the national States. With the beginning of the Fourth World War, the implantation of the "new world order" and its accompanying opening of markets, privatization, deregulation of commerce and international finance, organized crime "globalized" its activities as well.

"According to the UN, the annual global income of transnational criminal organizations are about 1000 billion dollars, an amount equivalent to the combined GNP of countries with weak income (according to the categories of the global banks) and its 3 billion inhabitants. This estimate accounts for the product of drug trafficking, the illegal trafficking of arms, contraband of nuclear materials, etc., and the profits of activities controlled by the Mafiosi (prostitution, gambling, black market speculation...).
The criminal organizations of the 5 continents have made theirs the "spirit of global cooperation" and, associated, participate in the conquest and reorganization of the new markets. But they participate not only in criminal activities, but in legal businesses as well. Organized crime invests in legitimate businesses not only to "launder" dirty money, but to make capital for their illegal activities. The preferred business endeavors for this are luxury real estate, the vacation industry, mass media, industry, agriculture, public services and ... banking!

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:40 PM
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75. The BFEE Qualifies as a Transnational Criminal Enterprise
Thanks for the great article, Zorra. I couldn't get to that web site, but I found what seems the same article here:

In addition to the "laundering" of dirty money, the fiscal paradises are used to avoid taxes, so they are a point of contact between those who govern, CEO's and capos of organized crime. High technology, applied to finances permits the rapid circulation of money and the disappearance of illegal profits. "The legal and illegal businesses overlap more and more, they introduce a fundamental change in the structures of capitalism of the post-war era. The Mafiosi invest in legal businesses, and inversely, they channel financial resources towards the criminal economy, through the control of banks and commercial companies implicated I the laundering of dirty money or which have relations with criminal organizations. The banks pretend that the transactions are carried out I good faith and their directors ignore the origin of the funds deposited. The rule is to ask no questions, the bank secretary and the anonymity of transactions, all this guarantee the interests of organized crime, the y protect the banking institution from public investigations and from blame. Not only do the large banks accept laundered money, in view of their heavy commissions, but they also concede credits to at high interest rates to the Mafiosi, to the detriment of productive industrial or agricultural investments." (M. Chossudovsky, Op. City.).

Here's the link to the first installment. Dynamite writer he really is that subcommandante. NPR said he was writing a novel or doing a screenplay, if I recall, with one of Mexico's leading novelists.

As a kid I wondered what the Mob was doing with all the cash. My cop buddy told me they were investing it in legitimate businesses. Holy cat. He was very right. They've moved trillions.

Money Laundering By US Banks

By Syed A. Mateen
March 25, 2002

According to James Petras, Professor of Sociology, Binghamton University, New York, there is a consensus among the US congressional investigators, former bankers and international banking experts that the US and the European banks launder between $500 billion and $1 trillion of dirty money each year, half of which is laundered by the US banks alone.

Senator Carl Levin, while summarising the record says: "Estimates are that $500 billion to $1 trillion of international criminal proceeds are moved internationally and deposited into bank accounts annually. It is estimated that half of that money comes to the United States".

Over a decade, between $2.5 and $5 trillion criminal proceeds have been laundered by US banks and circulated in the US financial circuits. Senator Levin's statement, however, only covers criminal proceeds, according to US laws. It does not include illegal transfers and capital flows from corrupt political leaders, or tax evasion by overseas businesses.

A leading US scholar who is an expert on international finance associated with the prestigious Brookings Institute estimates that "the flow of corrupt money out of developing (Third World) and transitional (ex-Communist) economies into Western coffers at $20 to $40 billion a year and the flow stemming from mis-priced trade at $80 billion a year or more.

My lowest estimate is $100 billion per year by these two means by which we facilitated a trillion dollars in the decade, at least half to the United States. Including the other elements of illegal flight capital would produce much higher figures. The Brookings expert also did not include illegal shifts of real estate and securities titles, wire fraud, etc.


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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:14 AM
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73. Prohibition helps them weed out the competition...
so to speak...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:59 PM
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76. Speaking of Weed: Bush Plant in Mexico Blooms Big Time Cash Flow
In Alabama, custom dictates only male property owners wear cowboy hats.

Follow the Money to Citibank

by Antonio Jaquez
Proceso (liberal newsmagazine), Mexico City, Mexico, March 25, 2001
World Press Review June 2001

On the morning of March 1, 1995, there was panic on the 17th floor of the Citicorp-Citibank building in New York City. Alarmed Citibank executives read the top story on the front pages of that day's newspapers: Raul Salinas de Gortari had been arrested the day before in Mexico. They knew it was only a matter of time before investigators would arrive and begin to ask questions about the deposits made by Raul Salinas at Citibank.

Around that time, Citibank of New York was transferring Juarez drug cartel money to Uruguay and Argentina, where Mexican drug lord Amado Carrillo Fuentes and his associates went calmly about their business, with help from local politicians and businessmen. Not long after, investigations would reveal that in 1998-99, more than $300 million belonging to Mexican drug traffickers went through Citibank.

These converging events are the crux of Ojos vendados (Blindfolded) by Andres Oppenheimer , which digs deep into the role of transnational corporations and the U.S. government in corruption scandals in Latin America.

Oppenheimer says the thesis emerging from these histories is that the fight against corruption must be globalized. In other words, "Mexico can establish all the commissions it wants....But if Raul Salinas can go to Citibank of New York and deposit $120 million without being asked any uncomfortable questions, there will be no end to corruption."

He is confident, however, that things are improving. "The scandal that erupted from the millions...deposited by Raul Salinas forced Citibank to adopt radical measures....Today it's not very likely that Citibank would accept huge deposits from a brother of a Mexican politician. So, there's progress, and I hope there will be more."

Ojos vendados may read like a novel, but it is based on reliable documents and testimonies gathered in five countries over a four-year period. In addition to tying up loose ends and reconstructing events, the book contains some revelations. One is that U.S. district attorneys extended the inquiry into the Raul Salinas-Citibank connection by two years, with the objective of presenting criminal charges against the bank. And, among U.S. Senate papers, Oppenheimer found evidence of a $20 million deposit by Carlos Salinas.

According to testimony by Juan Miguel Ponce Edmonson, head of Mexico's Interpol, Argentina's federal police had been alerted in June 1997 that Eduardo Gonzalez Quirarte was in Buenos Aires. "From that moment on," narrates Oppenheimer, "Mexico bombarded Argentine authorities with requests to help locate Mexican drug traffickers in the country... Argentine authorities did not do much"- whether from lack of interest or, as Ponce suspects, because the Argentine government did not want the presence of drug traffickers to become public.


Remember Lenny Bruce's "Stamp Help Out"? It's like that.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:07 PM
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77. Profiteering without principle, damn the people.
Worst tyrants on the face of the earth,...and they are in power.

Time to take these MO-FOs DOWN!!!! :grr:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:24 PM
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78. Agree. Since when did America go NAZI?
Former business partner of Osama bin Laden*

Osama never dealt drugs.

Hes still a murdering hypocrite.
His supporters sell dope, in all likelihood.
But in public, Osama did the same as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell:
He said one thing about drugs and did another.
Still, unlike Robertson and Falwell with Big Mafia and Big Pharma,
Osama got the Taliban to cut out the poppy production.

Experts disagree on the date, some say Dec. 20, 2000. I date the birthday of the BFEE as Nov. 22, 1963. And they are NAZIs, in fact and in deed.

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