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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:11 AM
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The "last throes" of the insurgency? What is Cheney up to?
President Cheney is apparently making the rounds blathering about the end of the insurgency. It's in it last throes. Despite the fact that deaths and bombings are increasing daily. So what give?

Clearly, they are evaluating polls. Americans are upset. They need a plan.

We can't, we won't, leave. Halliburton has huge contracts to built lots of oil infrastructure and bases and shipping ports. The contracts are in place, and he needs the U.S. military as his security service while he bilks the last coins from the U.S. Treasury. So, technically, we can't leave, although they might find some way to claim we're leaving. But what do you think he has up his sleeve to make such a bold pronouncement in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Nuke 'em? Just order all the reporters gone, and order the Corporate Media to start reporting that the insurgency has ended?

I have no doubt that whatever Cheney is talking about, it is about shoring up America's support for his puppet-boy. He can't get the pay-backs to Wall Street and complete the pillage of the United States if Bush is polling in the low forties. So Cheney is now claiming the war could be "over" by the time he and Bush leave office in 2008.

So, to me, Cheney's prescience just means they'll manufacture a decisive victory story just before the 2008 election which will allow them to justify a fake spike in GOP poll numbers, which will in turn provide the polling cover (and doubt) they need to steal the election for Jebbie.

Bets?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:13 AM
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1. I thought he said this war would be over in 30-90 days....
...back when it started. Am I wrong?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:16 AM
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2. These creeps still have to come up with a plan for the 2006 election
In 2002 and 2004, they milked 9/11 and the fake-ass Iraq war to dispatch the likes of Max Cleland, Tom Daschle, and John Kerry. What are they going to try this time? Will we, the Democrats, be able to figure out their heinous gambit in time? Will it release in September 2006, just like Andrew Card timed the Iraq War?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:18 AM
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3. Just unbelievable
From everything I can tell, the insurgency seems to have picked up even more, not leveled off. What a lying bastard he is.

You know, it sounds like a political statement to me, to benefit whoever the 2008 Republican nominee will be. The Repugs aren't totally stupid--they probably don't want the Iraq war hanging over them in the next presidential election, considering how unpopular the war is with most Americans.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:22 AM
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4. I always wonder if they truly believe their own lies or if
they are inwardly congratulating themselves for how "brilliantly" they are pulling the wool over everyone else's eyes. My most fervent hope is that I will soon know the answer to that question.
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:53 AM
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13. I think it's a little of both
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:46 AM
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5. Yes, the more lethal bombings and attacks THEY manage to carry out...
...the better we're doing. What's so hard to follow about that?

If only their "desperation" would be enough to get them to kill every one of us, then we'd really have them right where we want them!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:48 AM
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6. He's out of his fucking mind. Now he's Carnac the soothsayer.
I guess when you start a war you can end it anytime you want.

Just declare it's over.
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Juice45 Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:49 AM
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7. Which Strategites...
Everything they do has a purpose. Everyone in power is a master of taking some wedge issue and using it for gain. Recently it has been judges, and how "liberal" judges are ruining the US and democrats are "obstructing" their judges. I assume they will use the Iraq "victory" and milk that for all it is worth (even if that's already been done). Most people forget about things like "Mission Accomplished". So, ironically, if the fighting dies down, they can point at Iraq and say "Look at the great job WE did!!" Again, this is what i assume they would do, and we all know what happens when we assume things...
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:02 AM
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8. Hasn't the BFEE been using this line for almost 2 years now?
It seems to come out whenever there's a spike in activity.

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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:04 AM
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9. It's all about 2006. nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:18 AM
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10. Lying
It what he does when he moves his lips.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:23 AM
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11. And last year we'd "turned a corner" and prior to that we'd
"broken the back of the insurgency" and prior to that they were all Saddam loyalists, and prior to that . . . .

It's all bullshit.
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:34 AM
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12. I remeber when it was just a "few dead-enders"
I also remember that the car bombings just "showed how desperate" the insurgents have become.

Dick is blowing smoke.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:10 AM
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14. Cheney is hot to trot to get a new war on
So he has to make like the old war is just about over.

Planned US-Israeli Attack on Iran
by Michel Chossudovsky

<snip>

Israel is a Rottweiler on a leash: The US wants to "set Israel loose" to attack Iran. Commenting the Vice President's assertion, former National Security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski in an interview on PBS, confirmed with some apprehension, yes: Cheney wants Prime Ariel Sharon to act on America's behalf and "do it" for us:

"Iran I think is more ambiguous. And there the issue is certainly not tyranny; it's nuclear weapons. And the vice president today in a kind of a strange parallel statement to this declaration of freedom hinted that the Israelis may do it and in fact used language which sounds like a justification or even an encouragement for the Israelis to do it."

The foregoing statements are misleading. The US is not "encouraging Israel". What we are dealing with is a joint US-Israeli military operation to bomb Iran, which has been in the active planning stage for more than a year. The Neocons in the Defense Department, under Douglas Feith, have been working assiduously with their Israeli military and intelligence counterparts, carefully identifying targets inside Iran ( Seymour Hersh, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HER501A.html )

Under this working arrangement, Israel will not act unilaterally, without a green light from Washington. In other words, Israel will not implement an attack without the participation of the US.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO505A.html


Checkout the CBC program "The unauthorized biography of Dick Cheney" for the scoop on Cheney sanctions busting in order to trade with Iran, Iraq and Libya while he was at Halliburton and conflicts of interest and war profiteering.

Watch the video here (Quick Time or Windows Media Player)
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/video_player.html?cheney
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