Explain to me Again why bush hasn't attended a SINGLE soldier's funeral?

[mopaul]

the president won't do this because WHY again...?...it wouldn't be prudent at this juncture WHY exactly...?...the perfectly reasonable excuse is WHAT exactly...?...i'm still a little fuzzy on this...

fucking asshole

[Deep13]

1. It's a little complicated, so I will explain it.

He's a pussy.

[mopaul]

5. yeah, i was trying to put it into words, thanks for the clarification

succinct

[Enraged_Ape]

49. That makes a great talking point: BUSH IS A PUSSY

Brief. To the point. Says it all with maximum dramatic impact.

"Bush is a pussy."

Our Dem leaders should all get on board and inject this into every single sound bite they give the MSM. Let 'em choke on it, then let's see Scottie try to debate it and/or spin it at a press conference. He can't.

Because Bush IS a pussy, probably the biggest one who has ever held any public office in world history.

[GarKeeper]

2. He thinks policemen are more important

Did you see that dick at the dedication of the law officers memorial?

:grr:

[blm]

46. What an odd reply. That fallen police ceremony is held every year.

ANY prez is supposed to attend it.

It's a shame Bush is cutting the 100,000 cops on the street program that was drafted by Kerry and signed by Clinton. A real shame.

I think Bush just wants to force those laid off cops into the military so he can have more warm bodies to protect the oil business.

They won't be warm for long.

[rman]

3. uhm, he thinks the cost of war is irrelevant?

both in terms of human lives and financially.

[mopaul]

4. it should be a BIG ISSUE over Memorial Day weekend.

from spiralhawk

[SpiralHawk]

6. He is too busy covering up the lies he told to take us to war in Iraq

And making sure that his "Republican" buddies in the oil and munitions industries are able to rake in massive war profits.

So cut him some slack MoPaul. Bush is busy doing "hard work."

I certainly hope you are not planning to make this starkly ugly fact about Bush an ISSUE over Memorial Day weekend. My understaning is that Mr. Bush has a very busy weekend planned, striving to maintain his position in the Guiness Book of World Records as:

The Most Thoroughly Vacationed President of All
Time

[ClintonTyree]

7. That, no one can answer....

he doesn't want to set a precedent I guess. Then ALL of those families would want visits and that would cut into his vacation or bicycle riding time.

They say he meets with the families of fallen soldiers in private at his fake "town hall" meetings. However, there is no proof of that assertion whatsoever.

[mopaul]

12. maybe he's NOT WELCOME at a soldier's funeral

some wouldn't exactly welcome him

[ET Awful]

8. It's like this . . if he went to one, then he'd have to go to all of them

and it's hard work bein' Prezdent.

[mopaul]

10. who the hell has time to attend 1,565 frikkin' funerals?

maybe just ONE though might be nice.

[leftchick]

9. I think he should explain it to Emily....

In person....



Emily Dieruf from Lexington, Kentucky reacts after finding her husband's dog tag at Camp Pendleton, California May 26, 2005. A memorial service was held in honor of the 420 Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and British Soldiers who lost their lives while serving with the 1st Marine Division in Iraq. Since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003, at least 1,647 American military personnel have lost their lives in Iraq. REUTERS/Mike Blake

[mopaul]

11. goddamn what a photo

excuse my coarse language

[SpiralHawk]

29. Yes, the photo of that poor widow tells a long, sad story

Of her great personal loss, and of a Nation's betrayal by an oil-besotted cabal.

[TheFarseer]

13. If he went to one funeral, he'd ahve to go to all the funerals

and Christ, one thousand, sixhundred and whatever funerals, he wouldn't have time for bike riding and clearing brush.

[mopaul]

15. let's see, 1/2 hour times 1,656...equals hmmmm...i'm bad at math

no, there's simply not enough time between photo ops and vacations.

[funflower]

38. He would have had to spend almost 21 40-hour weeks (not counting

travel time) to attend the funerals of all of the soldiers he sent to their deaths in Iraq.

Maybe if he started going to the funerals, he'd have less time to start wars and otherwise cause trouble.

[zanne]

44. Exactly, funflower.

That was my first reaction to the question. It would be just too obvious that real people are dying every day because of him.

[MADem]

20. He could get his sorry ass over to Dover

...and meet the planeloads of caskets, at a minimum. And then require that a CIVILIAN government representative, at the cabinet level, meet every goddamn plane that comes in, no matter how early or late. They can set up a little watchbill, like us military types have been accustomed to dealing with all of our military lives. Aw, shit, can't make that party, I have the DUTY.

Time for these civilian leaders to see the consequences of their orders.... one "personnel transfer tube" at a time.

Of course, you know what would happen if they implemented my little idea: Norm Mineta, the sole Democrat in the cabinet, would end up meeting all of the planes. He'd probably have to buy a house in Delaware...

It isn't the military that makes the decision to go to war--it is the CIVILIAN leadership. The military simply do what they are told, they are an INSTRUMENT of American policy.

He should be forced to take a good long look, on a regular basis, at the consequences of his actions.

[fortyfeetunder]

51. After all, that's really hard work

Can you picture him trying to give an eulogy?

[Lannes]

14. He always gets someone else to do the "dirty work"

As in Vietnam,Iraq,Tax cuts for the rich...

[mopaul]

17. has he ever even sent a representative, besides the dead soldier?

just wondering. while he was an awol deserter, some other schmuck probably died in his place

[Lannes]

24. I dont know,good question

I was refering to the honor guard.

[madrchsod]

16. simple-he doesn`t care

"death has no mercy
in this land"

[bpilgrim]

18. it's HARD WORK, being the WAR pResident!

peace

[lonestarnot]

19. Well for one thing he can't read a fucking map! Second thing is his

toys are broken, bury them attitude. Freak could care less about these families or the men, women and children he's had slaughtered. He's afraid someone might put him in the hole instead and he just can't face the music. Some man hugh? And He's too busy trying to hide these images of truckload after truckload of flag draped coffins from public view.

[Guckert]

21. Because the funerals are all talking about how Bush killed their sons/daug

[Coexist]

22. because to him soldiers are means to an end

he will happily exploit their republican parents or wives for public appearances if they say their loved one died for his "noble cause".

He doesn't have the stomach to face those who oppose him, whose anger he deserves. He is a cowardly little chicken-hawk in constant need of positive reinforcement. A child in a man's office.

[MountainLaurel]

23. FEAR

That man yet has yet to be exposed to the American public in all its glory. The attendence roster for every event is carefully vetted so that Der Fuhrer isn't exposed to anyone but the most fervent party loyalists.

At a military funeral, he might face people with the ovaries to ask uncomfortable questions about why he lied about going to war, how much Dick Cheney and the other Bushistas are making from their war profiteering, and why in the "greatest country in the world" kids have to join the military and swear their lives away to get a college education. In a setting like this, there are uncontrollable variables, and Bush and his handlers know he would be mincemeat.

[warrens]

25. Cuz he's a killin' preznit, not a buryin' preznit

You ain't one of them pro-buryin' types, is you?

[HughBeaumont]

26. Most likely because

his decision to attack a sovereign nation, based on proven lies, is directly responsible for that soldier's death. Chances are that not every person attending that funeral is going to ignore that. Lancelot Link is a classic confrontation avoider; witness his press conferences, speaking engagements and Coronation. God FORBID he would have to provide an answer to why their son/daughter had to die for a lie.

Bad PR, you see. Raises that air of "infalibility". Can't have that. George W Berzerker always wins. George W Berzerker is ALWAYS right. And don't you forget it.

[enid602]

27. funerals

He and Pickles should attend these funerals. It would give them more opportunities to make out in front of the camera.

[raccoon]

28. Another reason, he would stick his foot in his mouth

He always does.

Also, that would make the deaths of servicepeople in Iraq more "real" to the average American viewer. As long as the caskets coming home aren't on TV, as long as the funerals aren't on TV, it isn't so real.

[mopaul]

30. he visited some wounded soldiers with laura once, & he actually cried

you can tell when a man's been weeping, eyes all puffy and red, sniffling, etc. so we know he has something of a human soul, but it's not enough to end their sufferings.

and i think that the biggest problem of all, was his heart was two sizes too small

[earth mom]

32. Nope-sorry mopaul-gotta disagree. He doesn't have a heart. eom

[FreedomAngel82]

35. I was listening to

BradBlog's show two weekends ago and he had a guy on there who was wounded in Iraq and Bush was visiting at this hospital this solider was staying at. He had poked his head into the room where this guy was and he called him by his nickname which is disrespectful to a solider. He didn't even call him Sergent or anything like the others did. He showed Bush his wound and talked about what happened and how it was repaired and Bush just went "ew" and didn't even want to look at it. Then a camera person popped in and took a photo of them together and Bush "visiting" with the solider. You can hear it from the show's archive on the site. But basically Bush was very immature to this solider. He didn't recognize his rank or anything.

[solinvictus]

41. Puffy red eyes + Dubya= someone's been on a bender n/t

[Enraged_Ape]

50. Don't kid yourself, those red, puffy eyes...

came out of a bottle of Captain Morgan.

[triguy46]

31. because he has no shame.

[SpiralHawk]

33. He can't handle the truth

Of how his lies have led to the death of our US men and women in uniform.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. He's too busy planning his next war

At least John Kerry has visited funerals. He even has some roses in his hands for the family.



Other photo's of other Senators and governor's at funerals: http://cryptome.sabotage.org/dead-duck.htm

[funflower]

36. The democratic governor of Oregon is an ex-Marine who has attended

EVERY funeral for an Oregon soldier killed (and we have lost a LOT of soldiers for a state with zero major military bases).

Wonder what the repub governors and other elected officials are doing.

[lies and propaganda]

37. because he at some

New England Patriots winning the Super Bowl shit.

and the wars over silly. no one is dying whose funeral he would need to go to.

[SpiralHawk]

39. Because he has a demanding schedule of "hard work" "cutting brush"

at the Imperial Pig Farm upon Crawford.

(I will make ceremony to honor my Dad this weekend -- an Army Air Force veteran of Pearl Harbor, and the whole war in the Pacific. In honor of all who gave their lives with the best of intentions to protect their families and their nation.)

[mopaul]

40. all who gave their lives with the best of intentions

that's what's so sad and horrifying about THIS war.

[CRK7376]

42. Scared Wuss

Scared to face the families of service men and women who actually did their service, unlike the Shrub who went AWOL from the Guard...

[Mnemosyne]

43. He's a complete coward,

that takes no responsibility for his actions.:grr: :nuke:

[spanone]

45. They haven't told him that there are casualties in Iraq.

...and he's a pussy.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

47. He fears being assassinated....why do you think his security....

...goes far beyond anything that we have seen previously?

[mopaul]

48. they know how loathed he is

so i'm sure the ss is working way, way overtime

[LibDemAlways]

52. Well we know he does attend funerals

because he showed up for the Pope and Reagan - even though he was booed in Rome, which had to be uncomfortable.

But the funeral of a soldier whose death he was responsible for based on a bunch of lies? Uh, no thanks. He'll take a pass. I'm with anyone who thinks the scared wuss is afraid some outraged relative or friend would take a swing at him or start cussing him out. Too much of a potential PR nightmare putting him into an emotional situation that could become volatile.

[SpiralHawk]

53. Never forget

That George W. Bush was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard in the 1970s, and from the 9/11 tragedy when, after having been informed for the 2nd time that the nation was under attack, he continued to sit in a Florida classroom to read "My Pet Goat," and then to later dawdle for a photo op with the schoolchildren (to establish an alibi).

So it follows that he will again be AWOL from any funeral services for our service men and women killed in the line of duty. Shameful but true.

[skygazer]

54. To those who say he would have to appear at ALL of them

I disagree. I've always despised that logic - I used to hear it at school - "well, if we let you do that, we'll have to let everyone." No, you don't.

He could attend the funeral of a soldier from D.C. He could attend the funeral of a soldier at Arlington. He could attend the funeral of a soldier near Crawford. He could attend the funeral of a soldier at some place he's making an appearance.

He would not have to attend the funeral of every American killed in Iraq or Afghanistan (remember Afghanistan?). But it would be a sign of respect and of awareness if he attended a funeral once in a while. My two cents.

[mopaul]

55. exactly, just once in a while, to at least pretend to show he cares

[SlavesandBulldozers]

57. that's the part I don't get

how come Rove doesn't try to exploit this? He certainly orchestrates everything else for exploitation.

He must have weighed the benefits/drawbacks heavily and determined it wasn't worth it.

[SpiralHawk]

58. Just ONCE for crying out loud

These young men and women died because of his orders. Never mind that his orders were based on lies and intentionally distorted evidence about Iraq. Go to At Least One Funeral. Think of thier families and friends. Bush, you OWE it to America this Memorial Day Weekend.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

56. you really need to modify your expectations of the boy king.

i mean really, how would he get his bike-ride on if he went to a funeral every other day?

Jesus man get a grip. On 9-11 everything changed.

:)

[skygazer]

Certainly it's nothing I expect to see

My point was that there are people in this thread who are saying that if he went to one, he'd have to go to all. I'm pointing out that he wouldn't - he could go to just one and it could appear perfectly normal to do so (which would in no way be going to a funeral "every other day").

I won't hold my breat waiting for it to happen, however.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

61. i know you weren't suggesting that it was a possibility

i actually think he would start doing his weird laughing thing at a funeral and fuck it up. and i think they know that.

[Solly Mack]

59. Had my husband died and Shrub chose to attend his memorial

I would not have attended his memorial...if my pure, undiluted, hate for Shrub had not been enough to keep him away.

I wouldn't have attended the post memorial either...too much bullshit patriotism displayed at those.

My husband knew before he left for Iraq that I would not accept the flag in the event of his death and I would not allow the WH to use his death as a photo-op. I would have been quite vocal.

[jaxx]

60. As long as he stays away from the funerals

the dead aren't real to the faithful dubya followers. Just numbers, and he'll tell them how well things are going in Iraq. Dead men mean responsibility..........and dubya isn't going there.

[Straight Shooter]

62. Because they don't bury soldiers along bike paths, that's why.

You don't expect him to go out of his way for someone who died for him, do you?

[darkism]

63. Because the family would spit on him for killing their child. n/t

[merh]

64. Because its hard work being the pRezident.

:shrug:



:cry:

[SRSU]

65. Ask your self this

If your kid was killed in iraq would YOU want him at the funeral?

[EnfantTerrible]

66. If he goes then suddenly

the country may catch on that, yes, our own are dying over there... they're no longer just a statistic in a column. Also where he goes the press goes and isn't there a black out on press photos of the bodies coming home?

[Generator]

67. Just read the Governor of Oregon has attended EVERY

one that died that's from Oregon. Check it out-too tired to find a link-but it's the cover story of the Sunday Oregonian. The Chimp thinks lives are an idea-an idea of dying for freedom-that's what ideologues are-they have no idea what life even is.

[Qanisqineq]

68. because he's too busy practicing riding his bicycle

You know they took the training wheels off and that's why he gets so many boo-boos.

[SpiralHawk]

69. Sunday kick

never forget

[w8liftinglady]

71. kick again

[w8liftinglady]

70. compare to how the Italians treated their dead soldiers from this war

Inside the basilica, the flag-draped coffins were laid out in two neat rows before the altar, watched over by the Italian president, premier and other top civilian and military leaders, as well as the families of the victims.

[Ilsa]

72. He'd rather go on vacation.

He rather cut limbs than see limbs cut off.

[Swamp Rat]

73. George W. Bush HATES Americans

Isn't it obvious now, even to the dumb motherfuckers who voted for him? He wants us to die and NOT be seen. To George W. Bush, Americans are peasants to be used and then discarded.

[HeeBGBz]

74. The spirits of the dead would eat him alive

He knows it. They're chasing him around the White House even as we speak.