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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:33 PM
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Poll question: Do you live near a chemical or energy (nuclear, coal, etc.) power plant?
I am just wondering how many DUers could be affected if terrorists attack a chemical or energy power plant attack. I know that the Bush administration hasn't been doing their job with securing this country, so I just concerned. So this poll again.

Do you live near a chemical or energy (nuclear, coal, etc.) power plant?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:34 PM
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1. It's not too far
My dad used to work for Sequoya Nuclear plant and then around 1993/1994 he was transfered to TVA (he likes that a lot better). I remember being in high school and you'd hear the testing siren go off at the first Wednesday of every month.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:07 PM
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16. Sequoyah here, too.
The sirens still go off the first Wed. of every month at noon.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:36 PM
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2. Within 15 miles of Oak Ridge, TN
Key site in development of the Manhattan Project in WWII, and a major research/development/storage center since. Been much talk recently about lax security there; not sure if it would be a target of a terrorist attack, or a good source for terrorists to try to steal or hijack some nuclear material. Unsettling either way.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:41 PM
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4. My dad works there.
Myself, I live maybe 20-30 miles from the Indian Point Nuclear Plant.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:36 PM
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3. Yup
Twenty miles from Dow Chemical's World HQ at Midland, MI.
John
It is now 24 days, 16 hours and 25 minutes to FUNDAY. We typically don't invite people from Midland (they're Repubs).
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:42 PM
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5. I have fossil fuel plants all around me in Orlando....
Issued on: October 21, 2004

Secretary Abraham Announces $235 Million for Florida Clean Coal Plant


Project Expected to Create More Than 1,800 Jobs
Orlando, FL - Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham, joined by Governor Jeb Bush, today announced a $235 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy that will aid in the development of one of the cleanest coal-fired power plants in the world. The project is a team effort led by Southern Company.


MORE INFO
Governor Bush's press release
Southern Company news release


The grant comes as part of President George W. Bush’s 2002 Clean Coal Power Initiative (CCPI) to invest $2 billion over 10 years to advance technologies that can help meet the Nation's growing demand for electricity while providing a secure and low-cost energy source and protecting the environment.

Secretary Abraham noted, "This project is a prime example of our Administration’s desire to develop cutting-edge technologies to help meet our Nation’s future energy needs. Advancing the technology for clean coal will go a long way toward giving us control of our energy future, and it will be an important part of safeguarding the environment for future generations. Clean energy technologies like those pioneered here mean jobs for this region, including high-tech, highly skilled jobs. Estimates suggest this project will account for more than 1,800 jobs which will help continue the expansion of Orlando’s economy.”

The plant will be located near Orlando at the Orlando Utilities Commission's Stanton Energy Center and will use installed advanced emission controls making it one of the cleanest, most energy-efficient coal power plants in the world. The total cost for the coal-based demonstration project is $557 million, of which DOE will contribute $235 million as the federal cost share.
<more>
<link> http://www.fossil.energy.gov/news/techlines/2004/tl_ccpi2_southernco.html




Then there are the nuclears also....

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U.S. Nuclear Power Plants

Arkansas Nuclear Energy Operations, inc. 6 MI WNW of Russellville, AR
Beaver Valley Duquesne Light co. 17 MI W of McCandless, PA
Braidwood Commonwealth Edison co. 24 MI SSW of Joilet, IL
Browns Ferry Tennessee Valley authority 10 MI NW of Decatur, AL
Brunswick Carolina Power & Light co. 2 MI N of Southport, NC
Byron Commonwealth Edison co. 17 MI SW of Rockford, IL
Callaway Union Electric co. 10 MI SE of Fulton, MO
Calvert Cliffs Baltimore Gas & Electric co. 40 MI S of Annapolis, MD
Catawba Duke Power co. 6 MI NW of Rock Hill, SC
Clinton Illinois Power co. 6 MI E of Clinton, IL
Comanche Peak Texas Utilities Electric co. 4 MI N of Glen Rose, TX
Cooper Nebraska Public Power district 23 MI S of Nebraska City, NE
Crystal River Florida Power corp. 7 MI NW of Crystal River, FL
Davis-Besse Centerior Energy 21 MI ESE of Toledo, OH
D.C. Cook Indiana/Michigan Power co. 11 MI S of Benton Harbor, MI
Diablo Canyon Pacific Gas & Electric co. 12 MI WSW of San Luis Obispo, CA
Dresden Commonwealth Edison co. 9 MI E of Morris, IL
Duane Arnold Utilities, inc. 8 MI NW of Cedar Rapids, IA
Edwin I. Hatch Southern Nuclear Operating co. 11 MI N of Baxley, GA
Fermi Detroit Edison co. 25 MI NE of Toledo, OH
Fort Calhoun Omaha Public Power district 19 MI N of Omaha, NE
Ginna Rochester Gas & Electric corp. 20 MI NE of Rochester, NY
Grand Gulf Entergy Operations, inc. 25 MI S of Vicksburg, MS
H.B. Robinson Carolina Power & Light co. 26 MI from Florence, SC
Hope Creek Public Service Electric & Gas co. 18 MI SE of Wilmington, DE
Indian Point Consolidated Edison co. 24 MI N of New York City, NY
James A. FitzPatrick Power authority of the State of New York 8 MI NE of Oswego, NY
Joseph M. Farley Southern Nuclear Operating co. 18 MI SE of Dothan, AL
Kewaunee Wisconsin Public Service corp. 27 MI E of Green Bay, WI
La Salle County Commonwealth Edison co. 11 MI SE of Ottawa, IL
Limerick Philadelphia Electric co. 21 MI NW of Philadelphia, PA
McGuire Duke Power co. 17 MI S of Charlotte, NC
Millstone Northeast Nuclear Energy co. 3.2 MI WSW of New London, CT
Monticello Northern States Power co. 30 MI NW of Minneapolis, MN
Nine Mile Point Niagara Mohawk Power corp. 6 MI NE of Oswego, NY
North Anna Virginia Electric & Power co. 40 MI NW of Richmond, VA
Oconee Duke Power co. 30 MI W of Greenville, SC
Oyster Creek GPU Nuclear corp. 9 MI S of Toms River, NJ
Palisades Consumers Energy co. 5 MI S of South Haven, MI
Palo Verde Arizona Public Service co. 36 MI W of Phoenix, AZ
Peach Bottom PECO Energy co. 17.9 MI S of Lancaster, PA
Perry Centerior Energy co. 7 MI NE of Painesville, OH
Pilgrim Boston Edison co. 4 MI SE of Plymouth, MA
Point Beach Wisconsin Electric Power co. 13 MI NNW of Manitowoc, WI
Prairie Island Northern States Power co. 28 MI SE of Minneapolis, MN
Quad Cities Commonwealth Edison co. 20 MI NE of Moline, IL
River Bend Energy Operations, Inc 24 MI NNW of Baton Rouge, LA
Salem Public Service Electric & Gas co. 18 MI S of Wilmington, DE
San Onofre Southern California Edison co. & San Diego Gas & Electric co. 4 MI SE of San Clemente, CA
Seabrook North Atlantic Energy Service corp. 13 MI S of Portsmouth, NH
Sequoyah Tennessee Valley authority 9.5 MI NE of Chattanooga, TN
Shearon Harris Carolina Power & Light co. 20 MI SW of Raleigh, NC
South Texas Project STP Nuclear Operating co. 12 MI SSW of Bay City, TX
St. Lucie Florida Power & Light co. 12 MI SE of Ft. Pierce, FL
Summer South Carolina Electric & Gas co. 26 MI NW of Columbia, SC
Surry Virginia Electric & Power co. 17 MI NW of Newport News, VA
Susquehanna Pennsylvania Power & Light co. 7 MI NE of Berwick, PA
Three Mile Island GPU Nuclear Co 10 MI SE of Harrisburg, PA
Turkey Point Florida Power & Light co. 25 MI S of Miami, FL
Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power corp. 5 MI S of Battleboro, VT
Vogtle Southern Nuclear Operating co. 26 MI SE of Augusta, GA
Energy Northwest Columbia Generating Station 12 MI NW of Richland, WA
Waterford Energy Operations, inc. 20 MI W of New Orleans, LA
Watts Bar Tennessee Valley authority 10 MI S of Spring City, TN
Wolf Creek Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating corp. 3.5 MI NE of Burlington, KS

<link> http://nuclearhistory.tripod.com/secondary_pages/location.html

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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:52 PM
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14. Trial for making a life off the grid!
Edited on Tue May-24-05 08:03 PM by oneold1-4u
Turn off all electricity for 24-48 hours and check out what you will need. Turn off water supply at the street and check out what you will need for whole family. If you have no sewer for any number of days check out what you will need!! An RV can substitute for life necessities for several days, and consider that whole families of up to 10 managed in covered wagons pre 1900 and in tents through 1929-1942. It can be done! It was only a generation ago!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:50 PM
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6. how near is near? nt
coal- heck no
nuke- decomissioned but yes, waste goes over rail through town too :mad:
natural gas- all on the other end of town, including a big ass storage facility some dumb-as-dirt rightwing nutjobs plotted to blow up a while back
chemical- There's a small gas bottling facility not too far away. They had a fire a year or two ago, which was fun.

We have plenty of hydro facilities upstream and if somebody were to damage one or more of them, they could cause some flooding.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:25 PM
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13. if it were attacked...you would be greatly affected...
that's what I am considering "near"..
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:01 PM
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7. If somehow one of the hydro facilities upriver from me
Were to be completely compromised, I'd be washed away before I could relocate. Not that I'm worried about it, but I do keep a surfboard on hand JIK.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:03 PM
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8. Why are they getting ready to attack Indonesia?
CHEMICAL BOOM IN INDONESIA

http://pubs.acs.org/hotartcl/cenear/970811/boom.html

The chemical plant jobs are almost gone around here! The chemical firms are all moving to Asia!
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MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:03 PM
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9. David Bessee...near Cleveland...n/t
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:13 PM
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10. Living near coal power plants
esp. ones that don't have scrubbers or whatever is bad whether "terrorists" strike it or not. The most dangerous "terrorists" to the American people are the corporations who don't limit their emissions and who knowingly are toxifying us through their greed or whatnot (with the help of B**h and the EPA who aren't requiring regulations/safety requirements).

Now we have to depend on the EU having regulations for us - when it comes to products. Unfortunately they can't regulate our coal plants - and we won't cooperate with the Kyoto treaty.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-me-euroreg16may16,1,5709999.story

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x24401
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:16 PM
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11. About 30 miles from San Onofre Nuke Facility.
If that goes up, so does Camp Pendleton and halfs of San Diego and Orange Counties.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:22 PM
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12. 37 miles from one of the world's largest. Palo Verde Nuclear.
"Palo Verde is jointly owned by APS, Salt River Project, Southern California Edison Co., El Paso Electric, Public Service Co. of New Mexico, Southern California Public Power Authority and the Los Angeles Department of Water & Power."


Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station in 2002 produced a national-record 30.8 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity, breaking its own record of 30.4 billion kilowatt-hours set in each of 1999 and 2000.


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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:53 PM
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15. yep: far too close to where we live
Bluegrass Army Depot/Bluegrass Chemical Activity at Richmond, Madison County, KY...
523 tons of mustard and nerve gas, no less... huge issue in this area for decades now.... this "depot" dates back to WWII... need i suggest, take a very large grain of salt with some of what's stated below...



http://www.wonderofthewesternworld.com/IFeelSaferAlready.html

Posted on Mon, Jan. 31, 2005
Fate of Weapons at Depot Still In Limbo

Associated Press


RICHMOND, Ky. - The fate of the chemical weapons stockpile at the Blue Grass Army Depot remains in limbo as the debate continues on whether to transport the weapons or neutralize them on-site.

The weapons - some of the world's most lethal - are stored in earth-covered bunkers at the depot near Richmond, protected from terrorists and monitored for leaks by the Army.

Just a few years ago, Madison County residents got the Pentagon to agree to build a $2 billion plant to chemically neutralize the depot's weapons. Now, the Pentagon has delayed building such a facility and wants the Army to study alternatives, including moving the weapons.

Madison Judge-Executive Kent Clark said he doubts the weapons are going anywhere, because elected officials would never allow it.

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and thanks to your question here, i just learned about this (dated 22 May 2005):

http://www.thelouisvillechannel.com/news/4485568/detail.html

Crews Seek Cause Of Sarin Leak
Workers To Examine Rockets Monday

Chemical weapons workers plan to enter storage igloos at the Blue Grass Army Depot on Monday to begin identifying the source of sarin vapor that leaked into a storage container this week.

Officials said the toxic vapor did not escape from the sealed container where approximately 2,500 rockets are stored and awaiting destruction, and area residents never were at risk.

Army Bluegrass Chemical Activity spokesman Richard Sloan said after the air in the chamber was filtered out, monitors did not pick up new leaks of the colorless chemical agent.

On Monday, workers wearing protective clothing and carrying antidote shots plan to enter the chamber and break down stacks of rockets to check them. Seeping rockets will be sealed in a leak-proof container.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:15 PM
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17. "All uranium back in the ground" + "Atomic power - A bombs"
these should be our catchphrases.

1. in the ground, except for tiny amounts for medical use

2. so tired of hearing another third world nation siphons off uranium for making its first bomb.

Obviously, the real reason they buy peaceful electric nuke plants, is to build bombs. Obvious to all by now.

end all nuke power plants, and end the threat of sixty nuclear nations in the third world.

Plus imagine the cancer deaths to uranium miners in the third world. Impossible to protect such miners from radioactve dust. Impossible. Ninety percent get lung cancer in the usa mines. Now imagine Pakistan mines.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:43 PM
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18. excellent points, excellent post
i'm right with you, oscar111 :thumbsup:

& just nominated this thread: these are issues affecting
*everybody*.

thanks to dhinojosa for raising the question :toast:

this thread needs to grow.

ana in KY
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:46 PM
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19. We're 15 miles from a nuclear plant nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:48 PM
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20. There is a coal power plant in the middle of my city
I don't need terrorists to hit us, the thing is doing fine poisoning us with mercury already.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:55 PM
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21. Close enough to see the nuke plant
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