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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:15 PM
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South Koreans Streamline Cloning of Human Embryos - NYT
Hey kids, remember when AMERICA used to do this sort of stuff??? So, we give up the manufacturing jobs and the people that used to occupy them now work at Wal Mart and bitterly resent the brainy people that still have their jobs and then they vote for Head up their ass Republican Bible Thumping cocksuckers that oppose science and support for bio-technologies that constitute the future and generally pooh pooh any kind of higher learning that doesn't involve Jeeeezus or "practical" subjects like business. Fuck all of them, fuck them in their pathetic tight asses with fucking cattle prods. Now, of course, we can certainly invest money in Korean, or Indian, or European firms and get a good return and basically watch the fuckwad pieces of shit that put these no-neck jerkoff horse semen slurping backwards fuckfuckfucks into office suffer and suffer and suffer. Fuck all of them, I say, invest overseas until these pieces of shit baby eating fuckheads put some nice smart Democrats back into office and quit fucking worrying whether Betty and Sheila or Bob and Rob want to love each other. I am going to go throw up now.




http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/science/19cnd-clone.html?hp&ex=1116561600&en=4e5c2458a5aa4a0f&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:33 PM
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1. Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel...
You're absolutely right, though; if your "higher education" doesn't focus on Jayzus or Maximizing Profits by Offshoring Labor, the fuckin' fundies don't wanna hear it.

So your invisible friend doesn't approve of cloning? Fine. My invisible friend gets really pissed off about in-vitro fertilization. He says severe endometriosis is His way of telling you that you have enough children. But nooooooooo...these people run to Colorado, drop thirty or forty thousand dollars on brewing up a batch a' baybeez, then go to the paper and seek donations from the community because They Can't Afford To Feed Four Children. Well gee, guys, let's see: you came up with forty grand to produce these little bundles of joy, why don't you dig a little deeper and come up with the money to take care of 'em? They did tell you that there's a chance you're going to wind up with seven kids, right?

And who makes me puke hardest? Bobbi McCaughey. The wench who gave birth to seven manufactured children. Seven! But oh, this woman has got this shit figured OUT, man! Let's hook us up a magazine contract and have our lives chronicled in Better Homes and Gardens Special Interest Publications--not only do they give us money, but we get all this free stuff and I even get my hair done free!
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ibid Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:08 PM
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2. This was indeed Today's good news from the science front
I agree that Today's good news from the science front is the South Korean announcement that they have created the world's first human embryonic stem cells that are customized so that they carry the genetic signature of the patient. This is a major step in the quest to grow a patients' own replacement tissue to treat diseases such as spinal cord injury with stem cell transplants. Plus they eliminated the use of mouse "feeder cells", ending worries about mouse DNA contamination (US stem cell work MUST use the mouse "feeder cells" variation under the freeze on creation of stem cell lines imposed by the GOP and President Bush unless and until the proposal by some Democrats for a "therapeutic cloning" exception to the ban on cloning new embryonic stem cells is passed into law). The next step is to learn how to control which types of tissues — brain cells, bones, etc., the stem cells form.


http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2005/519/1


19 May 2005

Cloning of Human Stem Cells Speeds Up


Scientists have created nearly a dozen new lines of human embryonic stem (ES) cells that for the first time carry the genetic signature of diseased or injured patients. The breakthrough represents a dramatic increase in the efficiency of creating such lines and may eventually pave the way for treating conditions such as spinal cord injury with stem cell transplants.

Last year, a group led by veterinarian Woo Suk Hwang and gynecologist Shin Yong Moon at Seoul National University reported the first derivation of ES cells from human nuclear transfer (Science, 12 March 2004, p. 1669)--a process that involves replacing an oocyte's nucleus with one from a different cell, and then chemically kick-starting development of the egg. But those efforts yielded just one cell line from more than 200 tries.

In the new study, reported online today in Science (article is free with registration), the same team increased their efficiency more than 10-fold and can now derive cell lines in more than 1 in 20 tries. Part of the secret is that they used freshly-harvested oocytes from young, fertile women instead of oocytes left over from fertility treatments. In nine cases, it took only a single donation of oocytes from a woman to produce a new line. Nine of the 11 cell lines are derived from patients who have suffered spinal cord injuries, ranging in age from 10 to 56. The other lines are derived from 2-year-old boy with a genetic immune disorder and a 6-year-old girl with Type-1 diabetes. Hwang cautions that his team remains years away from transplanting the cells into people. "We have to be over-convinced" that the cells are safe, he says. However, the cell line derived from the diabetes patient should be of great interest to scientists.

"The possibility of being able to study disease in a culture dish is very exciting," says Douglas Melton, who has recently received permission from a university ethics committee to derive ES cells from diabetes patients in his laboratory at Harvard. "For the first time, we will have a chance to study the root causes of the disease."
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:56 PM
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3. Thank you for bringing sense to the discussion
I was having a rant.......
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ibid Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:25 AM
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4. :-)
:-)
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:31 AM
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5. Bush's Response to Congress
voting to ease restrictions on Stem Cell Research Funding..

"I have made very clear to the Congress that the use of taxpayer money to promote science that destroys life in order to save life, I am against that,'' Bush told reporters in an Oval Office before meeting with Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen. ``If the bill does that, I will veto it."

I have made it very clear to the Congres....

What an @sshole!
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:34 AM
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6. our scientists will have to move to S.Korea so they won't be left

behind.

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