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illbill Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:12 PM
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Twin Towers II Design
http://www.realopinion.com/realboards/showthread.php?p=3047

This plan was conceived to address the rebirth of the WTC site in a manner that properly honors those we lost, while serving the needs of the living. The entire plan is a living memorial. It is subject to change as a result of public feedback, official acceptance, and/or unforeseen engineering considerations. This plan features:


http://www.realopinion.com/realboards/showthread.php?p=3047

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:16 PM
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1. I'm more inspired by this than the Freedom Tower
I never had a great aesthetic love for the towers...but I want them back.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:17 PM
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2. I thought they already had a new design
And this looks like the old towers. Or am I confused?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:33 PM
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3. They might as well include a big, fat target on them
because the first thing the rest of the world is going to want to do is to knock them down again.

Why the HELL aren't they designing something more in scale with the rest of the area? Why the HELL can't they design a shorter building without all that unfriendly open space (with hurricane force winds half the time) but with an entry atrium that would also be a beautiful memorial to the nearly 3000 people who died there?

Rebuilding two ugly, boxy, arrogant, phallic structures is a stupid thing to do. They need to rethink their whole project and what objectives they want to achieve.

If all they want to do is to give a middle school "fuck you" to the rest of the world, then this design is just about right. I would never be desperate enough to work there, though.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:39 PM
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5. I think a lot of New Yorkers
want them back. That seems to be Keith Olbermann's take on it anyway. And it's their city.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7322400/#050512a

I can see the point. The skyline has been permanently changed. The people of the city want to feel they have been restored, not diminished.

I don't think it's a fuck you at ALL. I think it's more in the lines of a restoration.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:39 PM
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6. yeah
gotta agree with you. The Freedom Towers were nicely designed, I thought. I don't understand why they had to completely do away with that plan.

It just feels like a parent cloning their dead child, as if theat will restore what was lost.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:46 PM
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7. Are you from New York?
A lot of people there (yes, I am from there, & I still have friends and family there, with whom I have discussed this maybe even too much) want the skyline back to the way it was.

Also, no matter what is built there, it's a target, tall or short. So why not go for broke and make them the biggest towers in the world? It'd be nice if the US led in something other than hate and wars again.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:53 PM
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10. There is no way to knock them down again.
Why do people say that when this form of attack is now impossible?

Any hijacker trying to do the same thing would be overpowered, assuming he could get any weapon on board, also near impossible.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:35 PM
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4. I don't know
Edited on Tue May-17-05 04:35 PM by Donailin
it's kind of creepy. I'm from NY originally and I can't imagine wanting to go back to work, or begin a job in a place that has such horror connoting it. But that's just me
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:47 PM
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8. If they wanted to honor our dead
then they should have a REAL investigation into 911!
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:51 PM
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9. What a stunning design this is!
I hate the Freedom Tower. It looks like broken glass. This one pays homage to the old one, but puts a wonderful memorial to the old towers in the "footprints"

How they picked the awful Liebeskind design is beyond me.

http://www.triroc.com/wtc/



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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 04:54 PM
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11. Looks like the old Twin Towers.
Um... Not sure why they want a repeat performance.

I agree it should still be a usable space, primarily a memorial. It is a mass grave aferall. But to build back the same design. I think it's a bit specious.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 05:01 PM
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12. They are not exactly the same.
Edited on Tue May-17-05 05:03 PM by UdoKier
They are offset from the original footprints, and rather than the vertical windows, they have square ones, but with the same design at the bottom as the old one.

I think they are fantastic, including the secondary buildings.

The Libeskind people have never presented anything but the vaguest representations of this ugly "Shattered glass" design.



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