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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:03 PM
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This is a good example of hypocrisy A short Rant
It's okay for United Airlines to get rid of pension plans and declare bankruptcy so EASILY, screwing A LOT OF PEOPLE like you and me.............


BUT IT"S NOT OKAY for me or you to declare bankruptcy due to insurmountable medical expenses or some other catastrophe in a persons life. They make it harder for us to get our lives back on track while making it a piece of cake to big business.

The government FUCKS AMTRAK, yet gives a hand out to the Airlines that have a shitty business model and are continually losing money and do nothing but FUCK THIER EMPLOYEES in order to save money. What the hell is wrong with our leaders and these corporate fuckheads?

This pisses me off so much, they shit on me and others yet do favors for these turds like the big whigs at U.A.,


I hope they have a warm corner in hell, the bastards!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:11 PM
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:14 PM
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3. oh you don't even know what I want to say
but it would take about 3 days to read. Trust me, I am fuming over this.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:13 PM
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2. I'm With You
I also mentioned that why is it okay for corporations to declare bankruptcy and escape their obligations, but not for individuals?

And what of cases where the individual's financial hardship is caused by corporate irresponsiblity? Such as losing his/her job and retirement? I believe when Braniff went out they had stopped paying health insurance premiums, so their employees got cancelled retroactively and stuck with all these medical bills.

But of course, that is the whole point of a corporation that officers are not personally responsible for the financial responsibilities of the company. So, the officers get their golden parachutes, even if they are implicated in fraud. Well, I think that needs to change.

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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:16 PM
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5. Your right, damn right
These people are so out of touch with the common folk of this country. They play us like a damn fiddle, and most of us don't even realize it.


if this shit keeps up you will be seeing me running for office bitching about this stuff and wanting to change it.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:15 PM
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4. Yeah,
this United Airlines business is really really depressing. Makes me wonder if at 24 years of age, am I willing to work for some company for the next 40 of them, only to have my pension revoked, my social security f**ked up, no government healthcare or help of any kind, etc., etc. Again, it makes me wonder why I even bother to pay taxes in the first place, cause I certainly ain't seeing any benefit from them. The benefit doesn't even have to be for me, it could go to help homeless children, war widows, inner-city homeless/healthcare-less, etc., as long as it's not for WAR, christian schools, and big-business subsidy. What a shitty country we live in now.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:19 PM
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6. You can't trust any company
promises these days.

Things have changed. People don't stay in jobs for 30 years anymore and for good reason.

It's ever man/woman for him/herself these days.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:22 PM
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7. It's not a shitty country, just shitty leadership
The republicans in congress are out of touch, they do not know how the lower and middle class citizens of this country who do the right thing and pay thier taxes, work hard, and try to put thier kids into good schools so they won't have to struggle like they are in today's world.

Instead these fuckhead politicians tell us to pay our taxes, hate people who are gay, hate brown people, and force us to all be christian becuase that is what was supposed to be.

They hype religion, then they don't even follow the book's guidelines of helping the poor, and loving thy nieghbor, etc. etc.

it's all bullshit and people have it in thier eyes and cannot see through it.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:00 PM
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12. True
On re-read I realize that I did come off as a little bit harsh, but you're right. We still have infinite potential so long as people start to wake up.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:22 PM
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8. There's a big difference here...
United turns the debt over to the federal pension holding company and citizen taxpayers pay the pensions (if United secured monies run out).

With we wee citizens, the credit card corporations take the loss for citizen bankruptcies then pass it back to citizen taxpayers so that credit card corporations can maintain whopping profits and have enough payola to give to the Congresspeople who paved the way to their new profits.

The difference is in paths taken...but, in the end, it all comes back to we wee citizen taxpayers who break our backs for corporations and politicans every day, all year, and sometimes on Labor Day and Christmas Day, too.

We are evil people. We must be punished for the folly of people who gather debt from gambling as well as those who get sick and those whose husbands take off and all the other reasons it happens. We are BAAAAD people who drain the biggies and their politicians.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 06:28 PM
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9. We wee citizenry seem to be the BAAAAD people, at least to the
current radical republican party. That is the kind of operation they are and have been running for the past 5 years now, bending americans over and not even givng them a reach around.

They havent done one damn thing that has benifited me or anyone else but corporate america in the past 5 years. When will this shit end??
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:18 PM
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10. It's all so obvious and the stickler is that United Executives will
...get big bonuses, the American taxpayers will pay the pension fund through the federal insurance and the pension recipients from United will be lucky if they get $0.50 on the $1.00 promised them. Something is very rotten in America.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:48 PM
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11. What I don't understand is that United is supposed to be employee
owned or employee run - at least, at one time they were.
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