Do you know what "twinning" is, and what it has to w/mini-nukes?

[sangh0]

Twinning is a tradition in the Senate where a Senator who wants to vote one way on a bill but can't because s/he is going to be absent is matched up with another Senator who wants to vote the opposite way but also cant because s/he is also going to be absent on the day of the vote.

The vote on mini-nukes was 51-40. Nine Senators were missing. Four of them were Democrats.

[Ouabache]

1. How did Evan Bayh vote on this ?

Does anyone know ? Was he absent ?

If twinning occurred on the vote, then there was one person who was just flat-out absent. Who was the un-twinned absentee?

[sangh0]

2. I guess no one does know

about twinning

[T Roosevelt]

3. Understand the concept

but I've never heard that term before.

BTW - I believe Bayh and Miller both voted for it. :puke:

[deadeye]

4. why cant they be there?

isnt it their job to vote? its pretty bad when campaigning takes precedence over performing their jobs..

[sangha]

10. No, it's not their job to vote

Check the Constitution. Nothing in it requires them to vote.

Besides, defeeating Bush* is a greater responsibility

[Forkboy]

5. It has to do with spinning

when the guy you support can't do his job.

[blm]

6. His job is to become president.

And he'll cancel the mini-nukes program immediately.

If you believe the program shouldn't exist, like Kerry and Kucinich, then why do you support the guy who "won't cut the defense budget". Your outrage on this issue rings hollow.

[Q]

8. There's an old saying in the Pentagon...

...that once a program gets a foothold it's almost impossible to stop. They'll fund this program until the end of time.

[Forkboy]

9. ummmm...I support Kucinich

my outrage is all too real blm...sorry.I got into politics because of the No Nukes movement in the early 80's.It was then,and is now,one of my most important issues in the world.

And on edit-you're wrong about this as well;His JOB is to be Senator.

[blm]

12. Oh...well, that's different...

sorry for the mistake. Kucinich supporters have a level of sincerity in their posts that I trust.

His job is to stop Bush and reverse what he can as quickly as possible.

[Q]

7. Five Dems voted FOR and four were 'missing'...

...essentially giving the bill nine Dem votes. At least in the real world.

- Are you still trying to rationalize this vote?

[sangha]

11. You're leaving out some info

Like the missing Republicans. According to your logic, only missing Dems "give votes". The FIVE missing Repukes would bring your count back down to four.

[Q]

13. Why deal in hypotheticals?

- Let's talk real world consequences. The fact remains that five Dems voted for restoring nuclear testing and a new generation of 'bunker busting' nukes. The US already has over 10,000 warheads in their arsenal. They already have a 'mini nuke'...but it's not the kind that GWB* and gang think they can use without consequences. These felons actually think they can penetrate a deep bunker with a several megaton 'bomb' without contaminating the area with radioactive aerosol and particulates. If recently history tells us anything...it's that the Bushies don't care about collateral damage. They've already killed tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children and haven't blinked an eye. They'll kill thosands more before we see an end to this insanity.

- Add 'usable' nuke weapons to the mix with a sociopathic, warmongering executive branch and you have the end of the world as we know it. This isn't hyperbole. The Bushies aren't going through the trouble of building these things just to put them on the shelf. They WANT to use them in their 'war on terrorism'. No more slow and bloody wars...just instant death and bones turned to dust. No mess. No worry. No more enemies of the state.

- The five Dems who voted for Bush's* madness and the four that didn't bother to show up know full well that the Bushies intend to use these weapons. They're either too stupid for the job or they're willfully ignoring the ramifications of bringing usable nukes into the battlefield equation. Or perhaps they agree with the Bush* doctrine but can't admit it for fear of losing votes?

- What a morally bankrupt party we've become if we can't admit it when some of our own have strayed to the 'other' side.