How may of you have 4 forms of ID? (not including your drivers license)

[liberal N proud]

The REAL ID Act will require you to have 4 forms of ID before you can get a drivers license. How may people have 4 forms of ID excluding your drivers license? You can include it because that is the ID you are trying to get.
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Real ID Act edges closer to passage
By Donna Leinwand, USA TODAY
Fri May 6, 6:11 AM ET
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Now, state officials here and elsewhere are concerned that a move by Congress to discourage illegal immigration by requiring license applicants to produce four types of identification could lead to long waits and a cumbersome, confusing process to get a driver's license or an official state ID.

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050506/ts_usatoday/realidacte
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And that is just one of the things about this NAZI move that piss me off!

[unhappycamper]

1. No problem here

I can show my:

ACLU card
AARP card
AAA card
MFA (Museum of Fine Arts) card

[izzie]

7. I once had to carry three and had 5

State Lic., college and dependent military but did not need Birth records but had one with a seal stamp. I also had a passport at that time but most places would not take it as an ID? Odd. I just hate to think what it would cost me to drag some thing like this together once more. The form I looked up said a seal on the birth record would cost me $40. I am going to hunt for the old one. How much does a Passport cost now? The others are just gone as I am not married any more or in college. It all is a Pain the A-- and I once traveled in Germany after WW2 and you had to show your papers ever 5 feet I think. What a way to live. SA is also like that. Go to next town and you had to show your papers.

[johnlaneschultz]

2. That's Just Ridiculous

I have two forms of id other than my Driver's License...social security card and birth certificate.

[annabanana]

10. social securtiy card, "not to be used for identification purposes"..

Isn't that printed right on them anymore?

[Art_from_Ark]

3. At 15, when I got my driver's permit,

the only ID I needed was a birth certificate and something that showed my current address.

[ananda]

4. id

Sheesh. What would forms of ID consist of? I have all of these:

birth certificate

SS card

driver's license w/ picture

light bill

water bill

credit card

diploma

passport/visa w/ picture

tax receipts

former home ownership papers

pay check printout


What else?


Now.. many immigrants have none of these. None.

[OrlandoGator]

5. My gov't photo IDs are my passport and concealed weapon permit.

Besides my driver's license.

[H2O Man]

6. I have lots of IDs

mostly with other people's names .....

[ktowntennesseedem]

9. LOL!

So, will you be getting multiple driver's licenses?

:rofl:

[H2O Man]

15. You don't want to know

the answer to that. (grin)

[jojo54]

8. N.J. here - we already have to show 4 ID's

So, we pulled out the marriage certificate, previous license, birth certificate and SS card. And they charged us more for the license to boot!

[trotsky]

11. The question that needs to be asked, of course:

Would this policy have stopped 19 men from boarding planes and ramming them into buildings?

[jojo54]

14. I don't think so

They STILL can't get it right, even after spending millions of dollars poking and prodding us before we board.

[trotsky]

19. All any of that shit does is just make it harder for us ordinary saps.

Anyone wanting to do the kind of thing on the order of 9/11 is going to have a million-dollar bankroller and won't be stopped by any lame-ass "must have 4 forms of ID" law.

Basically it's something that can make * look like he's combating terrorism but won't do a thing to stop it.

[Burma Jones]

12. Sure, I do

Passport
College ID
Building Pass(es) with Photos
Birth Certificate
Utility Bills
Credit Card with Photo
Swim Club Pass
Auto Insurance Card

I don't think this is a "Nazi" move. I would be a Nazi move if we gassed all the people without 4 forms of ID.

[liberal N proud]

20. That could be the next move with this regime

No one thought any thing of the Star of David in Germany either until it was too late to do anything about it.
So should we wait to see how far this regime goes?

[Burma Jones]

23. Nope, we shouldn't wait, but I don't like to use the word Nazi

It makes a lot of (ill informed) people just think we're shrill whiners. I know we're not. I usually say that the administration, as with any other, needs to be watched carefully. Civil Liberties suffered under the Clinton Administration too, it's been a trend paralleling the technologies developing to enable closed scrutiny.

Oh, and my father in law was born Jewish in Germany in 1938 - they got out in the week after Kristalnacht. I grew up in suburban DC where my best friend's Grandmother had her ID tattoo from the camps, so with me, Nazi is a very specific thing, that's all.....

I usually couch the argument in Libertarian terms, but I see a lot of people saying that this sort of thing is necessary to prevent terrorist attacks - even though a lot of these folks are nowhere near and likely terrorist target.......

[SmokingJacket]

22. How many do 17 yr olds have, though?

My son has a birth certificate... and a passport that will be expired by the time he applies for his license. SS card too, if that counts.

The dumb thing is, in order to get all these IDs you have to show other IDs, usually the birth certificate. Maybe that should be enough.

[Burma Jones]

24. I bet in his case, a report card would also serve, and maybe

a student ID

[DELUSIONAL]

13. I once registered people to vote -- Washington State

and encountered several women who had no ID to prove who they were. They were with their husbands, they didn't drive and EVERYTHING was in his name -- EVERYTHING.

I wonder how many women will be negatively impacted by this legislation? I'm thinking of the women I encountered during voter registration who married very young and then became Mrs His Name. I realized that by keeping my birth name I have more records to establish my identity. Plus, my passport was obtained years in my birth name years before I got married.

Women are going to get hit with this -- especially if Government issued IDs are used to vote.

[jojo54]

16. That's a damn shame, isn't it?

30 yrs ago, it wasn't really a thought to keep my birth name, although I do have personal ID's. But on a wider scale, it's time to move out of the Ozzie and Harriet stage.

[HockeyMom]

21. My problem too when I was first married.

I lived in Manhattan. I didn't drive, didn't have any credit cards, etc. Once my kids were born and we moved, I learned to drive and got a license. When I went back to work, one of the first things I did was get my own credit card and open a separate bank account in my own name. It is perfectly fine to do this in your married name. It is still you, not your husband. Your marriage license is enough to prove that you are one and the same person establishing all this history.

I remember my Mom telling me this 30 years ago when I first married to establish my own financial history apart from my husband.

[BiggJawn]

17. We have to do this in Indiana.

You need to acheive a threshold of "points" to get your DL. Birth Certificates, Student IDs, Work IDs, UTILITY BILLS (????) with your address on them...Government IDs...

"Ausweiss, Bitte..."

[HockeyMom]

18. Would SS and old driver's license count?

I could probably come up with 4, but I don't know if my college age daughter could. She would have her old driver's license (?), social security card (?), birth certificate, and student ID. If you eliminate the first two, it is not enough. She doesn't have credit cards, utility bills, etc.

[BiggJawn]

25. Contact your DMV branch.

I had to go through that shit last time I renewed my license, because it had expired several months previously (hey, if you never need to look at it...)
If the DL is still valid (non-expired) it counts.