"A fight is not won with technique, but with the most furious mind."

[sweetheart]

There is a message in this for the democratic opposition
to the tyrrany of the BFEE. We need only cultivate the fury and
direct it at the agents of evil. To defeat the GOP, howard dean is
rightly taking on framing, and indeed, he was put down much for
empowering that "furious mind" before they nailed him for the scream.

When the public turns on the GOP, it won't matter whether they've got
judges, some congressional bigots or a nuclear option, they'll go down
in a sinkhole of their own making; and we need only cultivate the fury.

[BeFree]

1. Maybe, maybe not

With the vote being counted by the evil bastards one has to wonder: Just how can the public 'turn on the GOP'?

Indeed, it seems the 'GOP has turned on' the public. They have manipulated us, stole our vote and lied to us as they make themselves ever more powerful. And in the meantime, have been all too successful in growing the 'furious mind' of their chief enablers.

All the while the freedom loving, individual rights people have been ridiculed and held down not only by virtue of the GOP's shenanigans but the all too familar infighting and ultimate surrender to war and pestilence inflicted upon the majority of the world's citizens by the elite money hoarders that everyone so looks up too.

We are in a vicious circle, and that circle appears more and more to be a circle being flushed down the drain with the excrement and butt wiping papers we get our news on.

I fear, we shall never turn on our masters until it is at that final precipice on the edge of the abyss.

But if you have a better solution, I'd really like to hear it...

[sweetheart]

2. I guess it depends on how you interpret "fury"

In my view, when the fury passes a certain threshold, there is an
immense calm and no emotion whatsoever. I am that furious at the GOP,
that i intend their total annihilation, and i'm not angry with them
at all. The "terrorists" are defeating the world's most powerful
military because they are furious. They've gone beyond hubris, ego and
anger, to that place of total intensity, that with a small poorly
organized force, they pound fear in to the empire.

What the GOP does to whip up anger at dems is not fury, it is petty
hostility, stupid bullying and corrupt malfesiance. They are the bully
in contrast to the warrior. The warrior is at peace with their
profession and may never ever appear violent, except on the few occasions
where they killed with total fury.

There is this whining, why don't they respect the constitution, they're
not playing fair and the sounds of the victem of a playground bully,
that is NOT fury. Somehow the pitch needs to be raised, that those
who are really really intense about this all, raise the ante.

The public can turn on them, like a mother who's lost her son in a
criminal war -> fury; like a person who's kid was killed by the police
-> fury; like the person who's been denied their legal vote for their
race -> fury. The basis is there, and the anger is that of justice
beyond law and bits of paper, but from the gut.

[BeFree]

4. Yes, we have reason to turn....

....but do we really have enough of a sense of justice to do so?

The injustices you cited can enliven the fury but only it seems, to individuals, or, at the most small groups. (Witness the small number of people at the Election Reform Forum.)

Then look at those raving, lunatic fundies. Look at the raving, lunatic Freepers. Look at the raving , lunatic war-mongers. Now that is fury. They have it, do we?

I am no warrior in the common sense, but I am a fighter. I pray, and attend to my actions in such a way as to never cause physical harm to anyone. I just like it that way. Were I a common warrior, the notches in my gun would rival the worst of killers.

I too am furious at the GOP, (gay old pissers?) but bringing justice to them is somewhat beyond my reach. Now, group me with about 25 million others who's fury burns like mine?.... Justice would be served.

[Doctor_J]

3. Which explains VN and Iraq

in terms that even the dimmest of the Limbeciles can understand. And we will eventually prevail here, I just hope it happens BEFORE the BFEE subjects the US to what Hitler subjected Germany to in the 1940's