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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:03 AM
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Why Republicans may actually be praying for a Dem Prez in '08.
The war in Iraq is going to shit in a frightful hurry. It's Vietnam all over again. The repukes know this. Why else do you think they are frantically repeating over and over again: 'Freedom is on the march. Th'Eye-rackies 'r' free! We gave 'em freedom! They welcomed us with open arms!'

They know it is a pile of shit but don't dare admit it. They may want a Democratic President in 2008 who will cut throught the horseshit and bring home however many of our troops are left alive. Then, for the rest of time, the repukes can blame the Dem President who "betrayed our troops" and "made us lose the war". They can continue to pretend to themselves that B*sh is NOT a collossal fuckup who lost the war before it ever even began.

That's how I see it, anyway.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:05 AM
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1. Let them have the President.
We must have Congress.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:06 AM
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6. agreed
if it wasn't for the fact that the Supreme Court is going to undergo some big changes in the next few years.

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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:40 AM
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14. Damn straight
If we can get congress in '06, chimpboy gets impeached, and maybe some of these clowns are indicted.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:45 AM
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15. That's my dream
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:45 AM by FreedomAngel82
Hopefully how things are going now will go our way. Only thing is left to do is convience people who vote republican to vote democratic at least this next year. Let them know their party has been hijacked by the fundies and neocons and it's not the party they used to know. Let them know if they elect democrats in 2006 we'll help them out and take back our country and get things back on track. As Howard Dean says: show up, introduce yourself and just talk to them. There has to be moderate republicans who can vote democratic at least this once. We don't have to mention impeachment (even though that's our greatest goal) but just getting the economy back on track and getting our soliders home.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:05 AM
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2. I have a feeling Bush will cut and run
and then "they are free to <whatever happens>"
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PKG Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:05 AM
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3. Would this be the same way they were praying for a Dem in '04
so that JK would have to fix all of Bush's messes and then get blamed when he couldn't? 'Cause if it is, I'd rather ignore their prayers and work to get a Dem in office anyway.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:05 AM
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4. Don't fool yourself
They wouldn't pray for a Democratic president any more than they would pray for the health of homosexuals. They are stupid, deluded, and some are just plain evil. They will pretend, no matter how long the Republicans reign in Washington, that Bush is perfect.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:05 AM
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5. Yep. And they will need the Dems back in to fix the stock market..
the repukes can only rape and pillage so long.. pretty soon nothing is left. so, they need the dems to get back in to fix things so the repukes can come in later to steal another election and jack up the price of oil, gas, electricity, etc..
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:09 AM
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7. yep, need a Dem in to prep the soil so they can come in for a new harvest
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:49 AM
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16. Yep
They're already attacking each other. So they have to find someway to blame their screwups on the democrats.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:10 AM
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8. Lost before it began?
It was Bush's optional war (as mapped prior to having him installed as the puppet President). Saddam was negotiating to stop the Bush attack (which in international court of law was a crime against peace), and the U.N. weapons inspection was proceeding positively. This was an unnecessary, optional war. Even if democracy is "spread" to the Middle East (and let's hope it is not an extension of the "best government money can buy" that has taken away our republic and allowed someone as incompetent as Bush to be President), it won't be because of the Bush invasion of Iraq.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:50 AM
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17. Of course
they'll say other wise. They'll pump this up for years.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:12 AM
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9. the way the repug heads hung down before election
so low. draggin feet. remember people it wasnt that long ago. i had no one challenge me as a kerry supporter. people werent even putting bush stickers on their cars.

f* i think htey wanted us to win then. when bush came out ahead i felt a heavy, no way, from repugs. now, they are all mouth, but my repugs say nothing about politics. dont even try to defend bush

i have been feeling it for a while from the fundies, for the liberal christians to come rescue them. they are all show. they know it is out of control

all my religous right friends, and again, non challenge me in what god wants, per conservative

so

i agree
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:51 AM
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18. If that's true
then why did they steal the election? Why didn't they just give it to Kerry as he won anyways? Every irregularity that was in the last election was in favor of Bush. They wanted control of the government with or without Bush and Bush is the only person who would sign their outrages bills.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:02 PM
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22. lol lol that is why they won angel
i am talking republicans and christians that supported bush in 2000 and by 2004 really they didnt want bush to win. the ones that stole the election, are bush and his people. wasnt the people voted for him. that is why he had to steal, the people didnt want him, even though they were suppose to be supporting him. because of faith, because of tradition. because of war. repug stuff

i felt not a bet of enthusiasm from a single person around me that voted bush. none. he big time repug right wing brother shut up about two weeks before election. father even made some jokes about kerry winning. he hangs with the texas country club white male business world. and i strongly felt from him he wasnt too broken hearted at the idea of kerry winning. after i even felt his shame the first month after, when election declared to bush.

gosh that all was such a time. the emotion of it all


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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:13 AM
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10. and they'll want someone to take the fall for a completely
devalued dollar and economy with no foreign investors and for actually raising taxes again to help manage the deficit.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:14 AM
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11. They want a Democrat
who will be in office when the situation collapses finally and furiously...so they can blame him/her.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:18 AM
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12. They want Hillary
so they can keep saying "It was Clinton's fault!"


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:55 AM
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20. That explains it all
That explains it all. It explains why the republicans are pushing for her to run. I still don't think she will personally. The only reason why, I think, she'll win the nomination is because of her name.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:29 AM
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13. I get in so many heated conversations...
over this. I have a friend who wants the collapse to come now so that people will really see what it is they voted for. A small dispassionate part of me can see his point. But I'm also a bleeding heart and don't want to see anyone suffer that much.

I figure no matter what...we're screwed and they'll find a way to blame the Dems for it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:53 AM
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19. Exactly
They blame Clinton for Bush's economy faliures when any normal thinking person knows it was Bush's fault.
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PKG Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:26 PM
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24. I heard the same line of argument when it looked like
Kerry would win. Just sayin'.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:57 AM
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21. I agree but not because of the war, it's the economy
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 12:05 PM by iconoclastNYC
Our economy is going to take a tumble and take a decade to recover. We'll have to rebuild a diverse economy.

Ultra-wealthy business owners, infected by instiutionalized greed, crave undending profit growth. So they move all the jobs overseas and cover up thier crimes in the cloak of 'free market' economic dogma. Our leaders take a cut of the action, and do nothing to stop it. Nobody asks the question: "what about the long term impact on our economy."

America cannot be a great country with a service-only economy. We must have a diversified economy. The service-only economy in my view, increases the chance a great depression will result from some sort of stock market crash or run on the banks or geopolitical unheaval. It semes to me a diversified economy makes as much sense as a diversified portfolio does.

So yes, I think the Republicans might be banking on there being a bad recession or depression and the corporate whore media will be counted on to spin it as the Democrats fault. Just like Carter got blamed for stagflation and Nixon/Ford got off scott free. Then they are one step closer to seizing power once and for all.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:25 PM
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23. RNC will put pressure on Bush to figure out a way to get out. then
claim victory before 2008.
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