Could this be why DeLay is still there?

[FreedomAngel82]

I'm listening to Rhandi's show from Friday since I didn't listen to it all and she's talking to someone about DeLay. She said the reason we still see DeLay around is because if he goes then so will Bush and Cheney. What do you think? I remember not long ago when all this scandal with judges started going on with him Cheney told him to back off judges and it was like a kiss of death type of ordeal. Then Bush turns around a few days later and says DeLay is a friend. So do you think that's why he is still around? So many republicans are going away from him and he's now threatning them (there is an article in the general politics section about this).

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[iconoclastNYC]

2. Cheney and Bush playing bad cop, good cop?

Remember Rove sayz Bush must always appear "above politics" so you have Cheney and Condi doing some of the political stuff.

But you'd think DeLay would have some good dirt on the Bush's....sometimes I think about how scary it would be if i knew all the gossip that say John Kerry has been privy to....the BFEE etc.....imagine just being sat down and debriefed.

I like your scenario but you dont get to the top of the GOP without being solidly a team player. I think he'll walk off into the sunset provided enough cohersion. Rove and company will make it happen one way or another.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Probably

I was just listening to Rhandi's Friday show and she mentioned it briefly so I was wondering. I thought it was strange though how one minute Cheney was telling DeLay to back off and Bush was claiming he was a friend. So I'm just confused I guess as to why he's still around. I know he's going down kicking and screaming but I was just thinking about that. :shrug:

[DulceDecorum]

4. "You might very well think that, I couldn't possibly comment."

Anyone here remember Francis Urquhart?
From the BBC miniseries called
House of Cards?
http://www.urquhart.org/fictiona.htm

[Me.]

19. Put A Bit Of Stck About

loved that minseries. Urquhart and his wife were the were the fictional forbears of politics today.

[Old and In the Way]

5. DeLay has their back in the House, no question.

If he can be taken down, I think it will change the attitude of many House Republicans...who knows how this could play out?

[FreedomAngel82]

6. It'd be interesting and a show that's for sure

It's just amazing to me how he's still around and they've managed to sidetrack everything. I'm sure if there was no reason for him to be there still he would've been kicked out already. :shrug:

[Swamp Rat]

7. They still need their cockroach-man for a while longer.

[Last Lemming]

8. It seems to me that the white house

wants to see him gone. Cheney's remarks were pointedly nonsupportive and, if I recall correctly, Bush gave the impression that by friend he meant someone he shook hands with occasionally but wouldn't invite to a sit down supper. If the white house didn't want him gone this investigation would have died stillborn. I think the white house feels quite insulated from DeLay's activity.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Ah

I didn't think about that on the friend aspect. In some ways I hope this dies soon and he's booted out but on the other hand I'm enjoying the show and it maybe can draw some other people away from DeLay. Hopefully this will end his political career so he can't illegally redistrict Texas anymore and maybe democrats can have a chance again.

[bklyncowgirl]

15. Distancing himself--kind of like Kenny Boy Lay nt

[Old and In the Way]

17. This is their MO, though....

Act one way publicly, work the other way privately. Remember, how much this administration wanted 9/11 investigated?

[sandnsea]

10. It's a win-win for the WH

If the scandal takes him down, they get to look like good guys who are restoring integrity to Washington. If the scandal doesn't, they've still scared the bejeezus out of Delay and that will remind him that he isn't squat. Nothing like a little public humiliation to keep somebody in their place.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yep

That's how it works. Humiliation and fear. Go figure.

[Minnesota_Lib]

12. I don't know, but I have a gut feeling....

...that they have to stand by DeLay simply because he possesses knowledge that could bring this corrupt administration down. The Bushites abandoned Trent Lott for much less. Why stick with this sinking ship?

Because DeLay stands for one thing: DeLay. Also, as he has demonstrated time-and-again, he has a tendency to be a loose cannon. I suspect that the WH fears that if they jettison DeLay there is a good chance that he would go ballistic and get revenge by revealing what he knows about the 2004 big fix and other corrupt Republican shenanigans.

As one of the leading Republican powerbrokers--and one cut from the same corrupt, power-at-any-cost cloth as Tom Feeney and KKKarl Rove--it is very likely that DeLay would have been one of the movers-and-shakers behind the fraudulent 2004 presidential election.

Not coincidentally, Feeney donated 5000 smackers to DeLay’s defense fund. Feeney, if one can believe Clint Curtis (and I do), would be one of the last ones wanting to “hear the caged bird sing.”

Just a thought....

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[Dulcinea]

13. Here are some reasons....

DeLay is a Bush loyalist, & that counts for everything in this misadministration. Hell, look at Rumsfeld. He certainly should've been dumped a long time ago.

DeLay knows too much & won't go down quietly. "If I go down, I'll take all of you with me," as the saying goes.

DeLay is hated by many in Washington; therefore, the threats.

DeLay takes the heat off of Bush & Cheney.

He has a purpose to serve. He'll be thrown out with the garbage once his usefulness is expended.

[sweetheart]

14. its because of 1600 K street

Until the K-street link is broken, delay lives in a mysterious
address not in the constitution.

[Jose Diablo]

16. Delay has them all by the

nuts. If Delay goes down, and he will, then it will be like flushing a toilet.

An interesting play on words is the phrase "Sugarland". It could be thought of as brown sugar, not so much as Mick would sing it, but rather as it looks. A substance that looks very much like brown sugar. Our boy Delay knows many things about brown sugar and you can bet it is not used to sweeten coffee. Nor does it come from sugar cane, but from a plant grown high in the Andes.

Many things indeed. Things that at all cost, those in power behind this throne would prefer remain very much not known.

[elehhhhna]

18. He'll win here in '06--Fort Bend Cty (Sugar Land,etc) is rushing to

buy paperless voting machines. (Previously used op-scan) We Ft. Bend Dems know what THAT's about!

[libertypirate]

20. He's holding the committe assignments...

They could be fucked with out him.