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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:55 AM
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There is evidence U.S.A probably had mad cow disease in 1997
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:05 AM by glarius
I doubt if you have heard anything about this on American TV....It is quite an eye opener from the CBC.....
Here's the story.....http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/04/12/usbse050412.html
There's a video with eye witnesses at the bottom of the page...

It does seem unfair to me that Canada is being painted as the purveyer of mad cow disease, under the circumstances....
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:05 AM
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1. If you don't test for it,
it's like it doesn't even exist. La-la-la-la-la-la-la.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:08 AM
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2. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to know there was a cover up for the
beef industry. They are HUGE here and very powerful. Look at what they did to Oprah for saying she would NEVER eat beef again. They sued her! Could you imagine what would have happened had THIS info come out?

This makes me SICK!
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:11 AM
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3. Thanks Glarius
Although I stopped eating beef last year, I still wonder what will show up years down the road.........
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:11 AM
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4. Hey, can't we blame that on CLINTON'S PENIS?
:D
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:50 AM
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5. I heard another American person on a Canadian TV station say
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 10:50 AM by glarius
that he had heard of American ranchers who had sent their tests to unreliable places and been cleared....Can't remember the exact circumstances...it was a while ago...but where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Caria Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:10 PM
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15. And I've heard of labs
that have a hard time getting business because they ARE known for being ethical & reliable.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:54 AM
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6. There are people in this country who've come down with this disease
but for some strange reason (cattle industry money??) we're not hearing about the cases in the news. There is a rumor among nurses here in the Bay Area (that I give high credence to) that there is a case here.

I love how our Republican Overlords keep the public safe...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:01 AM
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7. Earliest case I've read about was in 1961
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:02 AM by htuttle
A bunch of mink at a mink farm in Central Wisconsin came down with TSE (like BSE, but for mink). They traced it to the fact they were fed 'downed cattle' (sick cattle) from a local farm.

They had another outbreak in mink in the same area in 1963. Same source, apparently.

I think it's been pervasive in our food supply for a lot longer than we realize (probably since shortly after the advent of making animal feed out of other animals). It doesn't always infect everybody, and it takes years or decades to display symptoms. I've read more than one conjecture that many cases of 'mad cow' in humans are misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:05 PM
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13. That's NOT conjecture!
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 01:10 PM by dicksteele
While only 2 or 3 medical studies have been done (Autopsies on brains of 'Alzheimers' patients),
those studies have ALL found a significant percentage actually suffered from some form of Spongiform Encepilopathy, NOT Alzheimers.

We have a human 'Mad Cow' EPIDEMIC going on in this country; it's just going undiagnosed and unreported.

Edit to add link:http://www.rense.com/general63/burger.htm
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:07 AM
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8. I am starting to wonder about Alzheimer's too
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:08 AM by SoCalDem
I wonder if the fact that BEEF....and LOTS of it... was the protein of choice for so many years of the lives of people who are now being diagnosed with Alzheimer's, could be linked somehow..

That's the problem with so many diseases of today.. It's not like the old ones. TB, diphtheria, polio, flu, typhoid, etc.. They were acute diseases that could be traced to a particular contaminant, or exposure. The diseases of today are a culmination of lifetimes of exposure to a myriad of toxins.. That fact "protects" the ones who poisoned us.. It;s hard to pin down where the tipping point was..
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:39 AM
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9. Duh, there are signs of Mad Cow showing up in the early 90s in
the human form of the disease.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:45 AM
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10. In the States?
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:57 PM
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12. Yup, there was an incident with a Race Track in New Jersey
I don't remember all the details too well, but it was covered up and ignored by the media.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:06 PM
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14. Well, a quick Google search turned up a lot of news stories.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:49 PM
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17. If you watch the video that comes with the CBC piece I believe you will
come to the conclusion that there was mad cow disease....Scroll down the page to the listings at the bottom....It's about 2 thirds of the way down....
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:17 PM
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18. OK - I'll check that out.
Thanks!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:44 PM
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19. I just noticed it's not on the CBC page anymore....Here it is
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 12:36 PM
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11. Back in 1994 ,while living in Colorado, cattle farmers
were doing their annual keep the rogue elk away from their cows battle..I didn't know this was an issue until it was explained to me...

rogue elk, males who didn't win their fight to mate, would try mating with cows.

Anyway...during the course of my discovery of the ways of the rogue elk, I learned that one of the other major concerns were the deer population....seems they had found several deer with BSE...and they had traced the "culprit" back to those food bins put out for deers in the winter...animal parts being used in the feed...test, thus far, showed that to be the case anyway.

the ranger..that's ranger, as in park ranger...not rancher... who was telling me about the deer said it was only a matter of time before it hit human population...and that it may already have (considering people hunt and eat deer)

This was 1994. 11 years ago...

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 02:47 PM
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16. If you watch the video that comes with the CBC piece I believe you will
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 02:51 PM by glarius
come to the conclusion that there was mad cow disease....Scroll down the page to the listings at the bottom....It's about 2 thirds of the way down....SORRY...I MEANT THIS POST FOR BUNNY!
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