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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:02 PM
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WOMEN! (Okay, and Men Too) How Would You Respond to These Comments?
On another internet discussion board (non-political), a single mother of four responded to a man who ranted that single mothers destroyed their children by warping their perspective of male-female relationships. She said that many single mothers raise their children very well and she teaches her children to follow their hearts in life. She said, "As a mother, I feel it's my job to love them and take care of them and teach them what I can and then let them go when they grow up."

This is the response that she received:

As a mother it’s your job to find a good man and lead by example. You are now telling your daughters that they don’t need a man. You are telling your sons that women do not need you. Men need to be needed. We guys need to be depended on to rise to and do our job. If I had a gal that was making a lot like Oprah (for instance), I’d live with a remote in my hands and sit on an E-Z boy all day long. Why should I do shit?

A momma can give me birth, potty train me and leave me the fuck alone. I want daddy after that. If daddy ain’t there, help me find a good father figure.

Read real slow while I cut you up.

A woman don’t need any money. You didn’t know that, did you? If you have a man, you don’t need a dime. All you need is enough money to do what he tells you to do and perhaps some gas and cigarette money. That’s it. Certainly not no two or three hundred in your purse. For what?

You are getting away from the traditional roles. The guy controls all the finances. The gal does the home. People only do so much as they have to do and no more. If you do his job of changing a tire, why should he? If he was on his job in the first place, you would have had some good tires already on the car. If he had to stop making money on his job to come rescue you on the highway, he’ll put some good tires on that car.

Your momma didn’t teach you shit, did she? It’s not your job to worry about the rent being paid or if there’s food in the icebox or if the phone might get cut off. That’s his job. All those brain cells you burn up thinking about that takes away from your ability to think how you can better your relationship (have his clothes ready for him so he can go out and do battle on his war against poverty, getting his food ready, get the kids out the way so he can rest, and what perfume that you’re going to have on when you two snuggle up in the bed that night). That’s your job. If he can’t handle his job, then you get a divorce and go find somebody else. Choose better next time. You don’t bitch in the guys ear. If it ain’t worth getting a divorce over then you shut the fuck up.

NOW YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THAT MISS LADY.

Did I do her in or what?


This response was met with glowing accolades from the men on the site, with the exception of me (I called him the biggest motherfucking retard on the planet). Other guys piled on to tell him how right he was. That prompted him to come back with this charming insight:

I figured that I wasn't alone in my thinking. Male chauvenism has been pushed by gals as something that's politically incorrect. I say fuck 'em.

Only thing that one woman can do for another is to show her how to change a tampoon and to suck a dick. She needs a man for the rest.


My responses to him so far have been slammed for "lacking logic" because I called him names. I honestly would back it up further but honestly would it do any good with a guy like this? Lost cause?

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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:05 PM
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1. Lost cause.
Shit for brains asshole. Don't take the bait, he obviously loves bashing women. Fuck him.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:16 PM
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152. Hey!!!! Is this an April Fool's joke?
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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2. LOST CAUSE n/t
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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3. The guy sounds like my next door neighbor.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:18 PM
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34. I work with three women who are in relationships just like this guy
described. One of them has an engineering degree and never works past 4:30 so she has time to go home and dinner ready for her hubby. But Dave's a good man and it's hard to find a good man.

All three also have w is for winner buttons on their desks. Go figure.

Why do women think you have to bend over backwards for the man in their lives?
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #34
52. backwards????
this guy clearly expects it forwards...
gimme a break !!
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #34
123. When we take over.....
we'll have to get rid of some of us - like your coworkers.
It shocks me that there are women this day and age with this mindset.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #34
149. they don't all think that way...
just the pussies.

Real women know better.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
116. ewww...Have you looked up your neighbor in the sexual predator registry?
NC Sex Offender Registry Search:
http://sbi.jus.state.nc.us/DOJHAHT/SOR/
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:28 PM
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142. No, he is not listed but I found 6 in my neighborhood.
Sick bastards!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #142
171. Six? eeeks! None in my immediate neighborhood. But several within 10 miles
They really need to make the sexual perps wear ankle bracelets and monitor their whereabouts.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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4. Too far gone. Pull the feeding tube from Cracker Barrel to his lips. n/t
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:06 PM
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5. definitely a lost cause
I would not respond further to a ignorant pig like this and I would certainly not reward him by further spreading his screed around the internet.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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6. Wow, what an impressive display of assholeism.
You don't have to tell me what site it's on if you don't want to, but I'm curious, what's the general subject matter of the board?
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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17. You'll Laugh If I Tell You
Oh well, here goes anyway... it's a dating advice site for men. I'm engaged now but I still go to that site for their version of the DU Lounge.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
:rofl:

Boy, with an attitude like THAT, that fella must be REALLY POPULAR. NOT!!!!!!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
145. Well, they say women like a man who can make them laugh...
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:45 PM
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156. That's True, Too
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #17
62. OMFG!!
Ok, THAT'S the cherry on top!! BOL!!!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #17
82. Can you post a link top this site?
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:20 PM
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95. I Have Some Reservations About Doing That
Please at least post this link in a separate browser so there aren't a whole bunch of hits from DU to make the admin wonder what's up.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72199

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retnavyliberal Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #95
100. so suave dot net? Can this get any better at all????? n/t
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:53 PM
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101. Will do
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #95
158. I checked out the site
Expecting to be pissed off and found myself actually feeling sorry for a lot of those guys. I think these "Don Juan" type sites and pick up women programs exploit lonely men for money.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:45 PM
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161. You Are Correct
That site doesn't charge for the discussion forum, but it does advertise for e-books and seminars and the like. Which is really preying on the weak and the lonely, exactly as you say.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #17
104. that is funny (the site it's from - not the message).
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 09:13 PM by bloom
And sad. I hope he's alone forever ( for women's sake).


I wonder if he has a clue how much help he needs.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:49 PM
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110. LOL! You just topped yourself, GiovanniC.
I don't think that guy even has opposable thumbs. Jane Goodall could produce chimps 600 times as erudite as that loser.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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7. "Read real slow while I cut you up."
This guy is just plain scary. There is nothing more to say to him.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:50 PM
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70. I agree. That guy is mentally disturbed and has a severely limited IQ
He is exhibiting signs of being emotionally abuse and violent. His remarks sound like notes from a case study.
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #70
125. I would have to agree.
This is an angry person who just wants to lash out. Not worth your time.

The healthiest response, when encountering a person like this, is to avoid them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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8. That response sounds to me like it was written by a serial killer who was
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:09 PM by BrklynLiberal
abused as a child and hates women. He would be the last person I would take any advice from about anything to do with raising children. I would call the police, have them locate him and have him arrested.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #8
124. Yeah, he has some serious mommy issues.
Sounds like the toilet training did *not* go well.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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9. I'd say, "You're messing up the gene pool, so time to cut your nuts."
The rest of you like thinkers can line up 'cause I'm sharping my knife...slish, slash.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:53 PM
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91. I'll help out, that was actually very funny to read he is obviously
intellectually retarded.
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camitche Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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10. this guy has to be kidding
this is some friends on the internet clowning around. People that ignorant can't type.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
25. I Wish, Wish, Wish I Could Believe That
Except that I know that there are people out there who are that ignorant. Maybe he has one of those little Stephen Hawking devices that types out what he says.

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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:54 PM
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71. Actually, people with severe cognitive limitations can learn to type
Maybe he is a patient in a mental institution. Many of them have access to the internet.

Or, it could be a prisoner. They get some access to the internet too.
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Pounder Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:43 AM
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172. I've seen this sorta stuff elsewhere
No...I don't think he was kidding, camitche...I have this sorta abusive behavior elsewhere....

The guy's a psycho, certes...but, he's not a loner.

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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:08 PM
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11. Don't waste one second of your life responding to someone like that
You might as well talk to a brick wall.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:09 PM
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12. What the hell was that site, FreeRepublic?
Damn, a gateway to the Stone Age.
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:09 PM
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13. I'd tell him
With a guy like you I wouldn't need an asshole either,your a big enough ass for two.
I bet he sits home every night wondering why he cant find a date.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:09 PM
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14. Worse than a lost cause:
He's a sociopath and a misogynist.
People like this have no place in my life.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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15. Well, I guess in terms of "logic"
I would ask him where the hell he gets his "authority" on that "that's the way things are." Most likely, he'll either ramble off something about the Bible, his own first-person experience or just dodge the question.

Make him answer, though, and then, when he answers, just tell him that his authority is no better than someone else's authority, and that he can live his life the way he wants to, but you, and most other humane and egalitarian people choose to live otherwise.

Ask him why people have to live and think the way he does, and if he's a totalitarian and hates freedom. That usually gets them riled up.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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16. lost cause
His values:

1. If he can get away with contributing nothing to a relationship, he will.

2. Women should basically sell themselves - marriage is about prostituting yourself to get the bills paid.

I hope when the single mom on that board reads his posts, she appreciates more deeply what she currently has.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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18. Lost cause, and wow !
If he's in a relationship, I feel sorry for that woman. If he's single, it's evident why.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:10 PM
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19. My response:
"Bwaa ha ha ha ha h--wait, you're serious? You're sick."
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:11 PM
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20. Well as a Guy
I know I feel a need for a woman, and want to be needed. But one thing I don't go for is not showing proper respect to any woman (but I have reservations to some extent on that one) and hate it when assholes like this get all the women. You can't actaully deny that it happens because it is all I have ever seen around where I live. Guys treat a woman like an ignorant (dog) and in the end, get what they want, the woman caves.

And you know what I get told by teh whole 2 girlfriends I have ever had so far. Right before I get the whole thing broken off, I get told I am just "too much of a gentleman and polite" or something along the lines of that.


Gives me a serious WTF moment. But you know what, I wouldn't even waste my energy on a knuckledragger.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
35. respect? what for?
it's obvious where all his issues are stemming from:

"Men need to be needed. We guys need to be depended on to rise to and do our job."
don't you just feel BAD for this guy? he's probably caucasion meaning that all this grief is stemming from the fact that he's part of the group that is hated on the most, WHITE MALES.
:sarcasm:
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. maybe he just has a small penis
:shrug: in which case I would feel sorry for........wait no I wouldn't, I would just laugh.
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
63. he probably doesn't even have one
probably a corn nut, a nubbin---picture a ken doll (just a wee bit smaller than that)


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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #63
87. LOL, I was thinking more like
just that he had sand in his 'gina?


sorry for the chauvinistic remark :evilgrin:
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #87
103. lol
:rofl:
it reminds me of south park. cartman's always got sand in his vagina, or 'gina or even cooter if you will.
:evilgrin:
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Pounder Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #39
173. Definite potty training issues...
A full blown case of penis shame....

Ladies?

Run away from this man...as fast as you can!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #20
75. "Assholes like that" don't "get all of the women"
Most women don't choose abusive sick fucks like that. I never dated one and my husband certainly isn't anything like that.

There are a lot of decent men out there who are married or dating. The sick fucks like that, often end up in jail.

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
86. Your girlfriends were also too polite.
Chicks dig self-confidence, and unfortunately, assholes tend to have plenty of it. You can be forward without being an asshole, it just takes practice.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
120. Hang in there! Any woman that leaves you behind for being too
much of a gentleman was going to turn out to be a psyhco nutcase game-player anyway. Be glad those two walked away. You'll be fine. :thumbsup:
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #20
126. ...hmm...
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 12:20 AM by Undercover Owl
I get told I am just "too much of a gentleman and polite"

is it possible you are reaching a shelf below yours, so to speak? You might be dating women who weren't raised to be as nice as you were, and they just aren't used to being treated well?

(That, or it's just their handy excuse to dump you, because the real answer is too much to explain.)
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #126
136. I don't know what it was
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 02:55 PM by WLKjr
But the last girl I went out with twice went physco on me.....last b/f was a mean drunk so she said, and then went on a rant about how I did not respect women.....(this all stemed from the fact she asked me if I went to a strip club for the first time with a couple of friends, I told the truth and she flipped out on me like we were "something special".) it was laughable, she told me I was acting like a child and she just kept hammering away at me. Finally I told her to never talk to me again if she was going to be that way.


Did I mention she owned wild animals like brown bars and albino deer?

not to mention a mountain lion.......and a HUGE BC supporter (W can do no wrong)
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #136
140. She owned a brown bar?
Sorry I couldn't resist. You can laugh about her now. Thank goodness that one "got away".
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:12 PM
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22. I feel sorry for any woman in that guy's life
What is that discussion board anyway?
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:12 PM
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23. what site?
by the way, this reminds me of a story, back in 8th grade....
it was my first day of metal shop and the teacher (male) asked us if anyone thought this class would be useless to them (it was a required course)?
My friend responded that she truly didn't think that she would use this ever in her life.
He responded by saying "i can clean, I can sew, I can do my own laundry, I only need a woman for ONE thing"
:eyes:
this is sad when people have been taught to view human life in such a manner.
sigh... :cry:

also, i think it's most likely a lost cause since it looks like this guy is doing this not only because he believes it, but so he can get his jollies too.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:13 PM
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24. You should NOT send this around in an e-mail...
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:13 PM by Dr_eldritch
And definitely DO NOT include a link to the site.

:evilgrin:

Of course, When you DON'T do this - you should make absolutely sure that you DO NOT present it a a Third-hand source.

I would definitely NOT include "Chauvinism alive and well - women beware" in the subject line.

(Oh yeah - and tell him he needs a woman to tell him how to spell "Chauvinism")
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
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38. He needs a little help with "tampoon" too.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:13 PM
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26. This cat must have scabs on his knuckles! n/t
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:14 PM
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27. Either he's doing that on purpose (disrupting)
or he's a HUGE asshole and not worth your time.

What the hell kinda messed up website is that, anyway?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:14 PM
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28. you took it to the right place
just post the link to this over there.

Okay, now let's cut 'em up. Real slow.

What a neanderthal. I thought those had been bred out of the human gene line for some time - but I guess our anthropologists should stop looking at some dusty old cave man skull when they can go right over to that website and get on right into the mind of a caveman.

Well if some lard ass so-called man wanted to sit his lazy fat ass on a sofa and swill beer all day long because his woman was as rich as Oprah, she would be calling the shots. She would probably tell him what his sorry ass needed to be cooking for her, when to put the kids to bed, what he needed to wear after he washed the stupid off his face before bed, and which direction he needed to wipe his ass, north to south or south to north.

She would probably be telling him to ask her how high on the way up when she told him to jump and if he didn't like that she'd just send his sorry useless ass packing.

But here's where neanderthal man gets confused on things: most women are not as rich as Oprah, and nearly every woman on the planet can do better than some stupid thick headed caveman who thinks he's a required part of any woman's life. Hey caveman - you're competing against people who treat women right - the way they want to be treated and not the way you think they should be treated. I'd give it a few more generations then but your geneline is coming to an end. Enjoy your beer.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:14 PM
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29. Some men are sure any woman will screw em'. And we do
Just not in the way they expect.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:15 PM
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30. I'd need the two or three hundred in my purse.
For the divorce attorney.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:15 PM
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31. How would I respond? I wouldn't.
He's either too far gone or a troll. In either case it's a waste of time.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:17 PM
Original message
Exactly what I said.
The way my husband and I run our lives would make his head explode, if he's being serious.

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
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36. Giovanni SHOULD respond in defense of this woman.
Real men stick up for women in situations like this.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:21 PM
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43. I disagree. The best response to trolls and idiots is no response.
Responses only inflame and encourage them.

The best advice is for that woman to leave the site. I wouldn't stick around any place with a poster like that one and droves of people agreeing with him.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:22 PM
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45. This man is a bully. I think other people should help her stand up to him
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
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48. Nothing anyone can say on a bulletin board is going to change this guy.
She doesn't need to stand up to him. She has more power than he does. If he's not a troll, then he's stuck inside his own pathetic thoughts. She has the freedom to click him right out of her life.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
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53. Of course she does. But I don't think it would hurt for him to see
others do not agree with him and see him for the troll he is.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:29 PM
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59. I'm pretty sure he's aware others disagree with him.
I'd be inclined to lean more toward "troll" than "ignorant fuckwit", although he could be both.

The post was clearly written with the intent to upset her and get a reaction. Don't give him what he's looking for.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:17 PM
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32. By the tone, I would say it's been 15 years since he got laid.
If he gets off the fucking couch and has a salad once in a while he might get his "dick sucked".:eyes:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:17 PM
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33. And we wonder why the woman is still single?
This, btw, is most of what I run into where I live and why I haven't been out on a date in about a year or more.

*sigh*

I hope that single Mom leaves this discussion forum.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
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37. ask him if he's married!
you're wasting your breath trying to reason with him. chalk it up as a lost cause, and be thankful he's not your partner! hahaha yuck.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:19 PM
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40. I'd reply with some passive-agressive sympathy
but that would work for me because I'm a woman. You're not, right?

I do feel sorry for the freak. I'm sure there are women out there that would put up with someone with an attitude like that, but most women have at least a smidgen of a sense of self.

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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:24 PM
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47. Nope, I Am Your Typical Oppressed Straight White Christian Male
But I'm good with :sarcasm:.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:21 PM
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41. My response:
As a mother it’s your job to find a good man and lead by example.
As a mother, it's my job to MOTHER. And yes, to lead by example ... see below..."

You are now telling your daughters that they don’t need a man. You are telling your sons that women do not need you.
No, I'm telling my daughters not to settle for a man just to have one. I'm telling my sons and my daughters that it is better to do without at times, than to accept something less than the best for myself and for them.

Men need to be needed.
Humans - men and woment - need to be needed.

We guys need to be depended on to rise to and do our job.
Humans - men and women - need to be depended upon to fulfill our obligations.

If I had a gal that was making a lot like Oprah (for instance), I’d live with a remote in my hands and sit on an E-Z boy all day long. Why should I do shit?
I think I dated you. Explains why I'm single right now.

A woman don’t need any money. You didn’t know that, did you?
No I didn't know that. Maybe you'll win the Nobel Prize for a new theory of economics. I don't think there's a single respected economic (macro or micro) theory out there that comports with this statement.

If you have a man, you don’t need a dime. All you need is enough money to do what he tells you to do..."
I think I might have been engaged to you. Explains why I'm single right now.

....and perhaps some gas and cigarette money. That’s it. Certainly not no two or three hundred in your purse. For what?
Yeah, and where do I go when he starts beating the sh*t out of me or beating our children? Although you only promised to "cut me up," and gloated about "do(ing) me in", it usually starts with a slap here and there. At a minimum, I need enough money to escape with my children before you figure out where I keep the knives (it will take you a while to find them, as clearly, you never enter the kitchen).

You are getting away from the traditional roles. The guy controls all the finances. The gal does the home.
You've made no case whatsoever that the "traditional roles" are, by definition, appropriate.

People only do so much as they have to do and no more. If you do his job of changing a tire, why should he? If he was on his job in the first place, you would have had some good tires already on the car. If he had to stop making money on his job to come rescue you on the highway, he’ll put some good tires on that car.
What a sad world view. Truly sad. I believe - and teach my children - to go beyond what they "have" to do. That what we "have" to do is like survival - it's the basement. To really live - to thrive - we do more.

Your momma didn’t teach you shit, did she?
Nope. Unfortunately for me, she was one of those "traditional" wives. She tried, but her worldview was trapped inside the house's walls. She spent all her brain cells worrying about having a hot meal on the table when he walked in the door, and his clothes ironed in the morning. She didn't have time to teach me much. I've forgiven her though. She tried really hard.

NOW YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THAT MISS LADY.
Is that YOU BOB???? I'm pretty sure we were married once. Explains why I'm single now.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:09 PM
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77. My mother was a "traditional" woman
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 06:13 PM by oldcoot
However, she always told me that I should have some skills to survive. She would argue that if anything happened to my husband, I might still need to get a job. Moreover, the government has never excused women from paying off their late husband's debt, even during the nineteenth century, when men had full legal control over women's wages.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:15 PM
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79. mine too
... and I'm not a single mother either -- and thank goodness -- I never dated anyone LIKE this joker. I was just saying how I'd respond were I the woman who which he was responding.

My mom WAS traditional and DID have the dinner on the table when he got home and all that -- but she INSISTED that all four girls (and the boy too) get a college degree and have marketable skills.

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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:30 AM
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130. This Is Such a Great Response
And for those who do go over there and checks out this thread, you'll appreciate the fact that she posted this response and some others -- she cuts him up real good and does him in.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:00 PM
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159. bwahahaha - what a fantastic
response.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:21 PM
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42. You should ask him what his mother did to him to make him hate women
so much?

What a motherfucker! Perhaps it didn't dawn on him that it isn't that women don't need a man, they just don't need men like him in particular.

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:27 PM
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55. sounds like his daddy didn't do his job, to me
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:27 PM by noiretblu
he probably learned this bullshit from his father.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:10 PM
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150. sounds more like his dad knocked up his mother and left her
to raise him on her own while he chased younger, cuter tail. His problem is that he never had a good male role model teach him that he isn't entitled to shit just because he's a man. Respect isn't handed out, it's earned. It's clear this punk hasn't earned a damn thing close to resembling respect, hence his immature babbling, shaking his fists at his computer screen while his mama yells at him to take out the trash.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:16 PM
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151. exactly. Don't blame his mother for this shit.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:22 PM
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44. LOL -- what a great salesman -- LOL
Somehow, he manages to make marriage seem so unattractive that no woman would want to get married EVER if it meant getting married to him or those who think like him. And, I believe that he's being fairly honest, not just trying to get your goat.

He and those who chimed in supporting him are lost causes. They are the men your mama warned you about :)

Lost cause -- no point in arguing with him as you'll never shine enlightenment into his black hole of a mind. The picture that he paints for a man's role is as negative and bleak as the one he paints for women.

You might keep this type of insight in mind, though, just in case you do consider marrying: have the new man in your life write an essay on the benefits and liabilities of marriage and what role each should play in the relationship. In fact, anyone considering marriage should exchange similar views between each other -- it might very well stop a whole lot of people from making a disastrous decision.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:22 PM
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46. he's well-acquainted with his right hand
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 05:24 PM by noiretblu
or left hand, or perhaps a blow-up doll. i doubt he's ever been near an actual woman.
oh...a response: why bother? he's an idiot.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
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49. Remind him that if
every man in the world died tomorrow, women could carry on and reproduce. The same cannot be said if every woman died tomorrow. One generation and it's curtains for the human race.

And don't let him try to get away with 'well, we'd just invent a mechanical womb'. If they could they already would have and would be bringing to term the products of conception that women don't want to carry.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
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50. How would I respond? "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" and
when you grow up and have your 14th. birthday, let me know.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:28 PM
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57. According to His Profile He's 58 Years Old
Although people lie.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:25 PM
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51. If the man has food in his "icebox" this could not have been
written any time since the 1930's. Must be some sort of time warp problem. Right click > Delete.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:26 PM
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54. Sounds like he was writing from prison.
If he has a lady friend it won't be for long.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:27 PM
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56. Response: I've got a vibrator and a bank account ....you, STFU!
Just the thought of a single woman with that kind of equipment will cause blood to shoot out of his ears.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:28 PM
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58. What a complete and utter fuckwit
Thanks for sticking up for us single moms, GiovanniC!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:30 PM
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60. Lincoln freed us ALL.
I doubt Mr. Patriarch is over the age of about 15. He's going to be in for a very rude shock if he's not born rich. If he's born rich, then he can keep the luxury of those opinions. After all, he can hire all the silent servants he wants to.

Nothing worse than a teenaged troll, though.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:32 PM
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61. sounds like the "troglodyte" from Flame Warriors
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/troglodyte.htm

Troglodyte has developed an incoherent political philosophy that he characterizes as "conservative" or "libertarian", but which could be more accurately described as "bigoted narcissism".
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:36 PM
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64. YES !
another person to use troglodyte!
the word is spreading fiercely.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:43 PM
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66. check out the site
the Flame Warriors are great!


(Im afriad to know which one I am, I try to be big cat, but I fear I am evil clown)
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:38 PM
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164. OMG, those are great n/t
:rofl:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:39 PM
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65. Well, if I were to respond to this so called man at all,
And that is a big if, I would ask him not to take his impotence and size issues out on the rest of the world. I would also honestly ask him why is he dissing his mother, and every other single woman he was ever involved, like an ungrateful stepchild.

I would also tell him that one reason there are so many single moms in this country is because of irresponsible assholes like himself who think that being a father simply means shooting the sperm and then leaving.:grr:
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:44 PM
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67. He, more than likely don't have a woman and can't get one.
And he probably still lives with his mother.
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LisaLL Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:46 PM
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68. Why is he so scared of women and healthy relationships?
I would say:

I am sorry that you have such a poor understanding about what kinds of relationships are healthy for raising children, for individuals and for marriages. You must have had a difficult childhood to be left so bitter and resentful about treating others with respect. A man who is rational and secure about his own self-worth would not feel so threatened by a woman having equal respect, rights, and responsibilities.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:48 PM
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69. If he could spell & knew basic grammar
I'd still think he was a shithead. I'm a guy, by the way & this guy had better take his head out of his ass & look around. He might be surprised it's 2005 & not 1905.


http://www.kliljedahl.net
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:56 PM
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73. I Even Did Some Quick Editing
to make it more readable. He didn't know how to use paragraphs, either.

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suasponte1973 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:56 PM
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72. He's a pig
That guy is a pig. But he probably gets more dates than me. Sometimes I wonder, do women really like men that respect them.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:42 PM
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106. Welcome to DU
Women like men that respect them, but we also like men who know how to stand up for themselves.

You have to be able to respect the woman and yourself.
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:25 AM
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127. of course women "like" it when men respect them.
Will they be nice to you for it? Maybe, maybe not.
Will they love you for it? Maybe, maybe not.
Will they be sexually attracted to you for it? Maybe, maybe not.
Will you get laid for it? Maybe, maybe not.

Sigh...why is this so hard for guys to understand about women?

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Stryguy Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:57 PM
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74. WOW WHEeee!
This guy's a real champion. The thing is these guys that are cheering him on are likely not doing so cause they agree with him. They think it's halarious that he's making an a$* out of himself.

I'd reply with,

Hey! Aren't you're missing that Monster Truck show on channel 16? Better get your toothless wife to grab you a beer so you can get in that old greasy lazy boy chair and watch it! YeeeHAW! Remember, you need to relax before you go "battle poverty" working in bay 2 of the Jiffy Lube.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:03 PM
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76. Didn't know that Tom Delay could write a sentence. (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:12 PM
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78. A woman NEEDS a man like a fish NEEDS a bicycle.
Men are nice, but I was able to do quite well for myself prior to meeting my husband. If, God forbid, something were to happen to my husband, I"d be able to take care of myself just fine, thank you.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:16 PM
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80. george bush* visits chat rooms? I mean the asshole* even TYPED his
internal "thoughts" (Did I do her in or what) !
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:59 PM
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114. nah
shrubs thoughts would be more along the lines of ...."mmm, beer. look! doggy! where am i... BEER!"
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:16 PM
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81. Lost cause
Idiot, Asshole, hasn't had a date or sex in 10+ years....

or is in a relationship where he is completely overshadowed by the woman (it wouldn't take much, would it? ;) ).
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:20 PM
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83. Men like him
are why we women need guns. All he knows is violence and gender roles? I got news for you, fucker. Bring it on.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:45 PM
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108. LMAO!
BRING IT ON!

Who said Democrats are anti gun? ;)
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:30 PM
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84. Huh...guess my dad got it all wrong!
My dad is a traditional kind of guy. He's a registered republican and grew up in the 40's and 50's. Me, being the daddy's girl followed him around for all of his "man chores". He taught me to refinish furniture, build things, repair household things, change the oil in my car as well as tires, taught me the basics of cars so I wouldn't be taken advantage of. He always told me that he was doing all of this because he didn't want me to have to "need" a man around. I don't NEED my husband to be around, I WANT him to be around, and that makes all the difference.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:07 PM
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93. Mine too!
My dad may be a right-winger now, but he raised me to be independent--to get married for love, not financial need.

Ah, that dickhead is just pissed because he can't find a woman like what he wants and get laid whenever he wants. Apparently, he's not looking in the right places. :eyes:
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:32 PM
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85. It is a parent's job to teach his or her kids to be independent
Parents have a responsibility to teach their daughters and sons how to survive in the big bad world without any help. Every individual needs to learn basic survival skills such as cooking, cleaning, and balancing one's own checkbook. To teach a child to be dependent upon others is a form of child abuse. Moreover, why would any decent parent teach his or her daughter to be some man's servant? Any man who needs a woman to wait on him is not worthy of any woman's time and effort. Indeed, such a man is not really a man at all but an overgrown child.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:42 PM
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88. This guy thinks "women's lib" is the reason he can't find a woman
:eyes:

What "logic" is he supposed to be using? This is the way I want it and the way I think it used to be, so that's the way it is.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:42 PM
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89. asshole made the male totally pathetic, useless, and wussy
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 07:00 PM by seabeyond
then they are all proud of themselves and say ya right man. how pathetic and stupid this is and funny. the woman can do all this stuff and take care of herself perfectly but woman dont you dare or your weak emotional male will totally wuss out and become egoless

i mean he made male a sad gender. he made him a pathetic person

i on the other hand see men as much much more than what this man sees men as
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:43 PM
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90. why even dignify
any of this total and complete grabage with any sort of response, much less involvement of any sort with this element of knuckle dragging reggressionism?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:59 PM
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92. his use of violent language is telling
"Read real slow while I cut you up"
"Did I do her in or what?"

i wouldn't be surprised if he has some body parts in his freezer.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:21 PM
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96. My first thought was
"there is a victim of domestic violence somewhere here"
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:10 PM
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94. he's the kind of guy
you see on the side of the road 10 years from now, because he's too fucking dumb to find some woman who will actually love him. (or he's unloveable)

as long as it seems to take, women do eventually leave assholes behind and find guys that are actually good to them, and feel equal to them, and treat them as goddesses, etc.

i'm waiting for that, but i do know it's true.

*hope hope hope*
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:24 PM
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97. What a sick piece of shit.
I've managed to live my whole life, dated, married, etc., and never actually met a person like this.

I feel sorry for women who have to deal with this kind of crap. I'd rather be a celibate nun -- shit, I'd rather have sex with a zebra than with a fellow like this.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:30 PM
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98. "NOW YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THAT MISS LADY."
My reply: "THAT'S MS. LADY, ASSHOLE!"
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:40 PM
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99. I'm assuming he masturbates a lot, and the last date he was on...
...was with some of the sick amazon porn he downloads off of usenet. I'm sure in the real world, his conversations with women are confined to such pithy phrases as "so how much for just a blowjob?"

I married a single mom, who was widowed at an early age, when the kid was two. She raised her son by herself for 20 years. During that time, she worked full time, and spent all of her spare time taking care of him. He is now 24 and one of the smartest, most well adjusted and motivated grownups you will ever meet. He also grew up knowing that there is no such thing as a free ride in this lifetime, and has a work ethic that is second to none. I have absolutely nothing but respect for single mothers.






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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:56 PM
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102. I didn't know my neighbor was posting to message boards
this sounds like some of the shit he says.

When his wife was expecting child #5..."The Cow is pregnant again"...

When my husband was helping me with yardwork..."My household is a dictatorship...no woman tells me what to do"...

I ignore him and send his kids back to their house constantly. The last straw was when he prompted his kid to tell me an anti-Democratic joke at the polls....they are written off completely...let the lazy parents take care of all those kids they bred but can't take care of...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:28 PM
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105. That's a guy? Wow, I thought it was some chick pissed off because
she was down on her luck! Seriously, read it again and think of some older woman, down on her luck and being sarcastic. Okay, I've KNOWN women like that and "his" post sounds jus like em!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:50 PM
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111. Oh, PLAAAEESSE...sounds like an older woman?
Are you aware of the FACT that men commit 86% of violent crimes in this country? Did you notice the violent and abusive overtones in his comments?

The dude is ill and likely also suffering from teeny weenie complex.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:58 PM
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113. You're probably right.
I've learned 2 things about people on the internet - you never know who you are talking to on the internet and people who do some weird shit for thrills.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:44 PM
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107. "Strict Father" morality
With the Men are Superior to Women clause in the natural order.

This is why we need to start framing, people!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:47 PM
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109. What he's written is not factually true. Debunk each line.
Nothing he says makes any sense in terms of the real world.

"A woman don’t need any money. You didn’t know that, did you? If you have a man, you don’t need a dime. All you need is enough money to do what he tells you to do and perhaps some gas and cigarette money. That’s it. Certainly not no two or three hundred in your purse. For what?"

"It’s not your job to worry about the rent being paid or if there’s food in the icebox or if the phone might get cut off. That’s his job."

The poster obviously doesn't know a lot of human beings. Male or female, we worry about things like the phone being cut off, the bills getting paid, and putting food on the table. Oh, and just who says "icebox" anymore? Is the guy posting this on the Internet or using a quill pen?

In the real world, couples (and single parents) face money woes all the time. Suppose the chief bread-winner is sick or disabled, or is killed in an accident. Suppose the marriage breaks up.

"The guy controls all the finances." No, that's not necessarily the case. I think we have written records from the Middle Ages indicating that the woman of the house controlled the purse strings, too.

"A momma can give me birth, potty train me and leave me the fuck alone. I want daddy after that. If daddy ain’t there, help me find a good father figure."

The poster shows no manners, no sense of family relationships. He is also extremely lacking in social skills. If he displayed such rudeness and ignorance in, say, an academic or a workplace, he would be shown the door without hesitation.

"She needs a man for the rest." What is "the rest"? Composing music? No, women do that without men (Try Hildegard of Bingen from, oh, a thousand years back. She was a nun.). Running a company? Women do that all the time. Conducting scholarly research? Sorry, no. Conducting psychological studies? Well, a woman MIGHT want to check out the specimen who posted those stupid claims, but academic interest -- and pity -- would be all she had.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:51 PM
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112. AH hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
whoooo boy, bet HE's popular with the ladies...

all the girls i know would knee him in the balls if he said all they needed to know was how to change a tampon and suck a dick
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 09:59 PM
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115. I suddenly hate men...
Wow.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:21 PM
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117. Why bother? It's like arguing with a carrot.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 10:22 PM by impeachdubya
Tell him to go back to his rusted pickup truck, his warm budweiser, and his inflatable girlfriend. Maybe after you ask him to specify exactly what level of "gal supporting" he does on that $5.50 an hour from the Gas-n-Feed...

(And people tell me I need to work harder to understand Red State Values Voters.)

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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:29 PM
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118. Ignore, and hope no woman ever goes near him.
<In Soup Nazi Voice> No Breeding for you! </voice>

That is one screwed up young man - and of course he's young. He's not worth the calories it would take to type the response.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:38 PM
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119. I wouldn't waste my time responding -it's hopeless
This woman has changed many tires and is responsible (by choice) for all the household maintenance and improvements.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:49 PM
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121. Tell the asshole that an inflatable sheep...
is no substitute for a woman, and to stop thinking its women's fault that he can't get it on with any of them. Talk about pathetic masochist.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:56 PM
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122. The scary thing is that Giovanni says that other
"guys piled on to tell him how right he was".

The thing that makes me smile is only defective women would put up with any of them for even a second. He and the other jokers like him are welcome to 'em.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:31 AM
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128. Sounds like the guy is very threatened by women.
Zero self-esteem, propped up precariously by a lot of hot air. And if you're at all interested in pursuing the argument, you might just point that out to him. What is he, nothing without a woman to "need him"? He practically admits as much. That's really pathetic.

And then he's incited to rage and biggotry by a women who truly doesn't need a man to complete her life and make her happy, nor even to change her tires. Now it starts to be funny, as I think about it....
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:34 AM
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129. So, how do I change a tampoon??? LMAO
Whatta maroon!

You are right, he is a big retard.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:15 AM
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174. Perhaps you could do it at
National Tampoon's Animal House...
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Discord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:34 AM
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131. Sounds like a Fundie site.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:35 AM
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132. It's Not
But he's probably a fundie.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:37 AM
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133. He's a neanderthal piece of shit
I hate to have to tell the son of a bitch, but my mother taught me everything because my father was a low down no account childish assed piece of shit very much luike he is!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:38 AM
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134. You can't talk to some people. This guy is one of them.
He's not worth the breath you'd be wasting.

Redstone
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:16 AM
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135. I would say....
Guys like you want one thing. To be under the thumb of a woman. You're so afraid of other guys finding out what you really want that you strike this macho caveman pose. But that only fools other guys. Girls know. Give us three weeks and we'll have you parading around in frilly pink panties while you cook and serve us dinner. Oh, yes. We know you. Now get on your knees and paint my toenails.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:58 PM
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137. Frankly this guy sounds like a MAJOR abuser.
He needs help or jail, nothing you can say to a fool like this.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:07 PM
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138. Has this guy been reading askmen.com?
Sounds like it! It's the male chauvanist bible - online.

www.askmen.com
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:09 PM
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139. Something must've happened in his past to unbalance him
Maybe his mother beat him, or some woman hurt his feeling in a major way. No one who is worthy of a healthy relationship thinks this way . . . he'll spend the rest of his life on those dating sites. He's as asshole.
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sescob Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:33 PM
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141. I imagine he hasn't been laid in a looooooong time.
Fucking retard. There is nothing you can say to someone so CLUELESS. I'm sure he leads a nice, lonely life.

A tampoon? WTF is that? LOL
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:34 PM
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143. Is this www.cromagnonman.com?




Unga gunga!!
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 04:46 PM
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144. Ok, he changed my mind... I now support chemical castration
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progressivejazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:37 PM
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146. Where's the logic in his posts?
It's all opinion. No facts. No reasoned conclusions.

Your calling him names is just as logical as the shit he wrote.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:44 PM
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154. That's What I Thought
Not that I'm necessarily of participating in an argument that's reduced to name-calling... but seriously, how can you use logic to combat something so devoid of logic?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:55 PM
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147. a knuckledragging mouthbreather with a computer
First off, I would think that a man would have some say so in whether or not he wants to be in a relationship with a woman at all. What he's saying is that a woman should go out and willy-nilly pick some random man and force him into being her husband and a provider for her and her children. I don't think there is a man on the planet who would go along with giving up his right to choose who he wants to commit his life and resources.

Cowards talk much shit when they're hiding behind a computer screen. He says this, but if you forced this down his throat, he'd be whining and crying about how unfair it is to him.

He should stick with men and leave the women alone if he feels that way. No one is going to turn the clock backwards to when it was ok for a man to treat women as property. He'd be first in line to vote against it.

P.A.B.!
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:59 PM
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148. yup, lost cause.
don't waste your breath.

too ignorant to bother trying to respond.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:26 PM
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153. He's likely done very bad things to women and may be a wanted criminal.
Seriously.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:44 PM
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155. I'd say his hateful post makes the best case for
why some women feel they don't need or want a man in their life.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:48 PM
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157. Wow. Those guys sound like trailer trash. Why is she posting in
a forum that attracts scum like that? Of course they don't have good, wholesome views of women. They sound like total losers. There's nothing a loser likes more than to have someone who is more of a loser around, to make him feel more like a man.

Sheesh. I had to stop reading them, they were so pathetic.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:47 PM
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162. I Am Oddly Addicted
Maybe it's the same kind of addiction some people here have to Fox News, Hannity, and Freep.

But I am a moderator there, so I do my best to keep things in line if I can.

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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 07:06 PM
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160. Apparently he doesn't even know how old he is....
he says he's 58, but his birthday is in 1969.

So, he can't spell, can't type, has a poor grasp of grammar, and now he can't add/subtract.

Sounds like a winner to me!
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 09:21 PM
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163. oooh, it's getting even deeper now!
check out the latest replies.

this guy is a laugh riot.

I still think it's funny he says he's 58, but born in 1969!
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:13 PM
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165. See, Now You're Addicted Too!
Exposing oneself to stupidity is addictive!
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FreedomFry Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:18 PM
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166. One bullet. (n/t)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:20 PM
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167. Oooo. if all men think like him, there aren't any "good men".
That might explain why many women would rather be single mothers than have to have a six foot hairy child around making demands on her as well.
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Pounder Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:39 PM
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168. Good Fer You...
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 11:40 PM by Pounder
Jesus Freakin' Christ!

I'm telling you...women bashing has gotten WAAYYYYY outa hand lately. I've noticed it on other boards.

I have a few theories...

Theory #1:

Smart, insightful, opinionated women SCARE THE HELL out of most men! They are terrified that a woman might be smarter than they are. This sort of thinking doesn't belong anywhere near any forward thinking humans brain! I find it absolutely chicken~shit...

Theory #2: Due to the current malignancy occupying the Executive Branch of our Government, there is some sort of mass hysteria sweeping this once, and future, great country of ours...the dysfunctional behavioral characteristics are everywhere, they've permeated every avenue of civility! Take a look at the venom that's being spewed by sooooo many Americans. It's extremely distressing...

Theory #3: The guy that wrote that was dumped by his wife, (apparently for good reason), and now he's just a hurtin', woman-hating little boy...

FYI~I'm a man, and I LOVE smart women! Yeah!!!
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:40 PM
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169. Goodness Gracious
Are you sure you didn't copy this from a past issue of "Equal Time with Bob Boudelang?"

That piece doesn't even constitute male chauvenism; it's just plain pathetic. Clearly, the troglodyte that wrote that has never experienced a good orgasm and has never been loved. It obviously likes to talk tough, but that's just its way of hiding the fact that it feels inadequate around women. This is displaced aggression.

The best thing to do is ignore it. All it wants to do is bring others down to its level. Just leave it alone and don't stick your fingers in its cage.

Men of quality are not threatened by women of equality.
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:53 PM
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170. Refer him to Proverbs 9, especially verses
14-18 and 24-26.
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