So as far as the religion flamewars go, can we all agree that......

[Walt Starr]

the radical clerics who market religion on television are a big part of the problem?

[Cuban_Liberal]

1. That we can agree on. n/t

[jonnyblitz]

2. just part. nt

[LostinVA]

3. Very Much Agreed, Walt

They are most un-Christlike people, and very much sully Jesus' teachings and life (am not a death cultist, so am not mentioning his death).

[Rowdyboy]

4. A major part of the problem....

Religion should be private and personal, not marketed....

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

17. Right. I won't crap on your religion if you don't cram it up my ass.

[Dave Reynolds]

18. That made me wince.

But not even if they lube it, either.

[Rowdyboy]

21. For God/Goddess's sake, WTF do I care what you believe re religion?

Thats pushy and invasive. Some sects of Christianity REQUIRE you to proselytize but I find that entire idea repugnant. If you want to discuss my faith with me, fine, I'm happy to. Otherwise, I see no reason to bring up the subject.

However, I do care how you VOTE!!!!!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

23. :)

[PurityOfEssence]

35. Damn. I wanted to watch that.

Wassamatter, Shocky? You used to be such fun...

[lastknowngood]

5. The basic problem with "organized religion" is the unwillingness

of believers to tolerate deviations from the beliefs. The reason they can't be tolerated is that it exposes their own insecurities about their own beliefs. Science is a religion but it is a self correcting one over time.

[Catch22Dem]

6. Sounds about right to me!

Right on as usual, my man.

[Walt Starr]

8. Maybe I found the starting point for clearing the air on DU.

:)

[Catch22Dem]

9. And here I was wanting to fan the flames

:evilgrin:

[Tsiyu]

7. Most definitely

Their pomp and pageantry is quite impressive and quite dangerous.

[Just Me]

10. Yes, Walt. The "radical clerics" who are exploiting others and,...

,...profiteering from human suffering,...ARE A PROBLEM!!!

LET'S GO GET 'EM!!!! :grr:

[Walt Starr]

32. Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his Sunday TV show? n/t

[solinvictus]

11. Shiite Christians..

that's what I call them.

[Just Me]

12. Drop "Shiite",...try "radical" or "cult" or "extremist" or,...

,...greedy, power-mongering, total ASSHOLES!!!

:bounce:

[solinvictus]

14. Like the Shiites..

Who are the most radical and disruptive sect of Islam in the Middle East.

[Bridget Burke]

33. Quite a few Shiites are not radical & disruptive at all.

How many have YOU met?

We can't judge all Protestants by the Reverend Ian Paisley.

[Walt Starr]

34. THANK YOU!

I was hoping somebody would make that connection. Not all Shiites are radical terrorists just like not all Southern Baptists are radical terrorists.

In fact, similar percentages of each sect probably become radical terrorists.

[MoonRiver]

13. Absolutely!

I just wish people could live and let live. Sigh...

[Cleita]

15. Without a doubt.

But they had a fertile ground to plow in. Every single one of us has been raised with Christmas/Easter, and charity to those unfortunate pagan children in foreign countries. All they had to do was build on that foundation.

[salin]

16. Yes. n/t

[jdots]

19. Walt once again you are right.

I am probably repeating myself here. The tent show hucksters of the early 20th. century did great harm to Christianity by using it for thier own game of greed.These early entertainers used the sermon as a way to get the suckers money.They stole thier timing from the rural southern churchs ,mixed in a little hypno trickery,laying of hands and faith healing.Along came t.v. and the audience became much bigger.These creeps are not Christians
they are scam artists like the neocon artists who use thier techniques.No one on DU has been slamming Christianity unless they are freepers trying to get a current of distrust going.
Onward.... there are some groups getting discussion going between religions,it's about democracy .

[Az]

The top of my personal pet peeve

Although they are near the top they are beat by their brethren that sell false hope to those most in need. Fraudulent faith healers steal both hope and money from those that are desperate for anything.

[imenja]

20. absolutely

and their efforts to use the state to impose their version of Christianity on the rest of us.

[saltpoint]

28. Excellent point. n/t

[Freedom_from_Chains]

22. absolutely!!!!!!

[morgan2]

24. All religion on tv except mine

send me money!

[ExCiber]

25. Without a doubt

Send your money to god, use my address I'll be sure he gets it.

[applegrove]

26. Yes! Even the man who wrote "the purpose driven life" admits that

putting religion on tv perverts it and the leader. He refused the chance 30 years ago. He wanted to stay real.

Walking the walk is what it is all about...no matter who we are and whether or not we were born with the talent to 'have faith' or not.

[BlackVelvetElvis]

31. Even so...

I'm speaking personally:
I saw him on tv during the weekend and it was the same spewing of "you can only reach God the way I did" and "you can't find god within" (I'm paraphrasing). It was the same baptist narrow-mindedness that I see from those on tv.
That really turned me off.
However, I do agree with the original post. I see Tilden and other notorious televangelists on STILL despite the fraud and wonder how they got away with it.

[applegrove]

36. And many of them will now be asked what they are doing to stop the

tubes being pulled out of the stomachs of people all around them in their home states. A good dose of light and reality is what these groups and 'leaders' need. Unless they hire Karl Rove...they will at some point be shown to be human ..and not all 'white light'.

[saltpoint]

27. I can, yes. These tv Jesus humpers are mighty annoying.

Let's not only agree that they're a big part of the problem, let's agree also to stuff every goddam one of them into the belly of a crocodile.

I'm free next weekend.

[Blue_In_AK]

29. Yes. n/t

[More Than A Feeling]

30. Indeed. None of whom (presumably) post here.

Which makes what has been going on all the more unfortunate.