We're all paranoid

[RBHam]

By Steven T. Jones
San Francisco Bay Guardian
http://www.sfbg.com/39/25/cover_conspiracy.html

THE GRAND LAKE Theater in Oakland was filled almost to capacity March 10, just as the Guild Theatre in Menlo Park was the night before and the Herbst Theatre in San Francisco would be the next night, all for a documentary with bad production values and even worse leaps of logic.

This was the local premiere of The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, a benefit screening for the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance, whose activists have been laboring for more than three years to dispel popular belief in the government's version of the events on that fateful day.

(snip)

"Belief in the official story is a mile wide and an inch deep," Zwicker told me. "There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that the movement is gaining ground."

They may be wrong about their chances for success anytime soon. Some of their theories are completely ridiculous. And when you talk with many of the people in this movement, they are passionate to the point of seeming crazy.

Yet the most disturbing thing about the 9/11 truth movement, something you learn when you really dissect their most compelling evidence, is that the activists are raising critically important questions about the Bush administration's lies, cover-ups, and geopolitical strategy – questions that are being almost entirely ignored by the mainstream media.

And they may well be right that more went down on 9/11 than the government wants us to know.

more...

[Richard D]

1. Just because you're paranoid . . .

. . . doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.

[Journeyman]

2. I think you got the tense wrong. . .

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they didn't get you.

[KlatooBNikto]

3. Our nation's collective mental health has been compromised by the

blows it has been dealt by the official versions of the Kennedy Assassination, the Martin Luther King Assassination, the Robert Kennedy Asaassination,The George Wallace Assassination attempt and the mother of all lies, the 9/11 "event".

Until we know the full truth of all of these, we will never recover our mental health.

[RBHam]

4. boot

what the hell

[bpilgrim]

5. with the neoCONs driv'n the bus you'd be BRAIN-DEAD not to be - n/t

:hi:

peace

[tnlefty]

8. No Great Leader would've moved heaven and earth to protect

us. He swears he's the Great Protector of us all and would never allow anything bad to happen to us :sarcasm:

[seabeyond]

6. why did bush have ground to air missiles on hotel 9/10

in florida. and twice he said he saw the first plane fly into the building. no one did.

yes i want to know too

also, you think bushco created 911 i can understand the passion and preceived as crazy

will be interesting to see what is up with this movie

[Cuban_Liberal]

7. What hotel in Florida are you referring to?

Link?

:shrug:

[seabeyond]

11. after election i got rid of so much of the stuff i saved

there is an excellent site that gives the timeline of 9/11. it is great. he was in florida on 9/10 adn jeb had enforced martial law four days prior to his visit. he had two ground to air missile launchers put on his hotel roof, even though it never entered their mind a plane would be used

dont have link. maybe someone does. try bush 9/11 timeline. will try to see if i can find it

[RBHam]

12. Paul Thompson's timeline

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/

and you can do a lot of research right here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125

[seabeyond]

14. this was in story form

told about how some middle east people came to gate of hotel saying the had an interview set up with president. it gave the exact time bush took off from hotel, when the plane hit he was in route. told reporters he knew nothing when he got out of his car.

anyway will look for it

was really good.

told about roaming country that day i believe

[seabeyond]

15. this wasnt it, but is similar, and has it......

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html

didnt read it thru though

After a private dinner with various Florida politicians (including his brother Jeb) and Republican donors, Bush went to bed around 10:00 p.m. Surface-to-air missiles were placed on the roof of the resort , and an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) plane circled high overhead. It's not clear if this type of protection was standard for the president or whether security was increased because of possible threats.

An Assassination Attempt

[RBHam]

9. FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape

Recording Contained Accounts of Communications With Hijacked Planes

By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 6, 2004; 6:16 PM

Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their communications with hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that was later destroyed by Federal Aviation Administration managers, according to a government investigative report issued today.

It is unclear what information was on the tape because no one ever listened to, transcribed or duplicated it, the report by the Department of Transportation inspector general said.

(snip)

According to the report, a second manager at the New York center promised a union official representing the controllers that he would "get rid of" the tape after controllers used it to provide written statements to federal officials about the events of the day.

Instead, the second manager said he destroyed the tape between December 2001 and January 2002 by crushing the tape with his hand, cutting it into small pieces and depositing the pieces into trash cans around the building, the report said.

more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6632-2004May6¬Found=true

[RBHam]

10. and from the new york times...

F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements
By MATTHEW L. WALD

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/national/06CND-TAPE.html?ex=1112158800&en=a7a82a6c00d87af6&ei=5070&ex=1097467200&en=7fa1a3e6add049bb&ei=5070&ei=5070&en=47f735143aab2889&ex=1086667200&oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=

WASHINGTON, May 6 — At least six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, made a tape recording that same day describing the events, but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it, the Transportation Department said in a report today.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, on Long Island, where about 16 people met in a basement conference room known as "the Bat Cave" and passed around a microphone, each recalling his or her version of the events a few hours earlier.

But officials at the center never told higher-ups of the tape's existence, and it was later destroyed by an F.A.A. official described in the report as a quality-assurance manager there. That manager crushed the cassette in his hand, shredded the tape and dropped the pieces into different trash cans around the building, according to a report made public today by the inspector general of the Transportation Department.

The tape had been made under an agreement with the union that it would be destroyed after it was superseded by written statements from the controllers, according to the inspector general's report. But the quality-assurance manager asserted that making the tape had itself been a violation of accident procedures at the Federal Aviation Administration, the report said.

The inspector general, Kenneth M. Mead, said that the officials' keeping the existence of the tape a secret and the decision by one to destroy it had not served "the interests of the F.A.A., the department or the public" and could foster suspicions among the public.

well...fostering suspicions...CAN'T HAVE THAT, NOW!

[Al-CIAda]

13. Audio from the NYC "9/11 Omissions Hearings"-

Audio from the NYC "9/11 Omissions Hearings"

PART I- Vital Questions NOT ANSWERED, Comission comprimised, 'Failure' rewarded
http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/911conPartI-26.rm

PART II-
http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/911conPartII-33.rm

PART III-
http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/911conPartIII-28.rm

PART IV- PTEC Stock Monitoring and Terrorism Financing (JP MORGAN & CHASE)
http://www.septembereleventh.org/documents/911conPartIV-32.rm


To site-
http://www.911Truth.org/

[BuyingThyme]

16. That's a great summary, but there's one big problem:

The author says:

"To believe this theory <of empire building>, you have to believe U.S. officials are willing to allow the deaths of thousands of innocent people – and to perpetuate a vast set of lies and cover-ups – in order to further what they consider to be vital U.S. strategic and economic interests."

You don't get it, Mr. Jones.

These people are global elitists. They NEVER act in the interests of the people of the United States. That's what makes them global elitists. As Scott Ritter says, they are "parasites."

We will never truly understand what happened if we don't bother to understand what these people are.

[RBHam]

17. Yep...

The Bushes And The Carlyle Group

http://www.bushnews.com/bushcarlyle.htm

[RBHam]

18. Don't forget the Bush-Moon partnership...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3355939

[BuyingThyme]

19. That's only one half of the equation.

The other half is known as the neocons.

Neither group has ANY allegiance to the United States of America.

[RBHam]

20. The New World Order...

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

[BuyingThyme]

21. PNAC is but a flash reflection of what's going on.

"Rebuilding America's Defenses" is just one little tiny element of the alliance of the Carlyle-types and the classic neocons. The document accurately reflects one element of the larger picture, but it should not, by any stretch, be considered the master plan.

This stuff goes way back, and ever further ahead.

[RBHam]

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