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gee double you bee Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:27 AM
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The short-sightedness of rich people
OK, big business, by and large, supports republican candidates. It's no secret by now that republican lobbyists, aided by a few shameful democrats, have created a society that tightens the pocket books of working class and middle class americans more and more every day. So here's my question: when the middle class is destroyed, everyone is in debt, and decent paying jobs are virtually non-existent, who the fuck is going to be buying these republican-loving corporation's products?

It seems like sweet tax cuts is a big price to pay for helping create a generation of people who won't be able to afford your junk.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:30 AM
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1. They'll sell their products overseas...
...and then they can have what they've always wanted: more "domestic help."

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gee double you bee Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:34 AM
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2. Thanks for the reply
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 12:36 AM by gee double you bee
EDIT: I think I need sleep. :)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:36 AM
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6. You are right.
The principle should work on a worldwide basis, not just here in the USA.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:39 AM
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7. Hmmm... if that's the case...
... then it's not working out too well.

The reason we are running severe current account balances month after month is because they can't sell overseas what's produced here, and because a lot of those corporations are the ones who've moved production facilities offshore and making junk to sell to us....

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:35 AM
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3. I don't know where they get their money because this would
seem very obvious on the surface. The better rewards the proletariat get for their daily toils, the more money they have to spend, the more money corporations make increasing their value on the stock market. It seems so simple to me that I wonder why they need a downtrodden underclass?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:35 AM
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4. Same question I asked all through the Gilded Age. . .
and fortunately there were millions of people who fought for years to establish unions and get progressive laws, rules and regulations passed. That's what will have to come to pass again. The people are going to have to get angry. . . something they won't do so long as a veneer of middle-class safety adheres to enough people.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:35 AM
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5. American Arms are going to be the only thing made in the USA
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 12:36 AM by applegrove
And sold overseas. All civilian goods will be made abroad and sold in the USA. Unless you are going to buy an F16...they don't need you anymore! Which is why you have to go back to being tribal and reliant on customary law and your very own gun to solve all your issues. You will soon be so busy fighting with your neighbours... that you will not have time to get together and vote a plurality and get the Democracts in power. AKA Indirect Colonial Rule.



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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:44 AM
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8. I wonder if the people who call from the credit card companys
go home and have to get bothered by the people who call from credit card companys.
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:01 AM
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9. They don't care
if you are going to or even can buy their junk. They will be sitting pretty behind the walls of their gated communities and not have to know that you can't afford to take a crap. And weren't these tax cuts supposed to create jobs - we are all wearing the blue dress now!
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:27 AM
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10. Because what these rich folks and corporations want most, even
more than they want more money, is to create a servile class that they can do with what they will. Screw the servant girls, beat the servant boys, whip the insolent, etc.

People aren't real nice.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:48 AM
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12. Yeah, isn't interesting the level of panic certain sectors displayed
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 06:48 AM by impeachdubya
during the peak of the Clinton boom?

Of course, the rich got richer along with everyone else.. but the TRULY rich, who seem to base their valuations on how much they can control others, seemed awfully unhappy despite their ever-advancing stock portfolios... Kind of like when the bouncer at that oh-so-exclusive chi chi club starts letting in the riff raff, all of a sudden it's not so much of an accomplishment to have to good table...

Shit, unemployment was so low, at one point people were starting to demand all manner of things- higher pay, better hours, that kind of thing... remember? Hell, offices were even starting to have to let people dress however the fuck they wanted. THAT really drove the brooks brothers suit crowd NUTS.

Then, of course, the shit hit the fan-- and everyone became terrified of losing their jobs and being one paycheck away from living under a freeway overpass, and of course they ran that much faster on their little hamster wheels... and certainly, all was as it should be once again.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 06:41 AM
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11. Making things people "buy" is old thinking, my child...
Look at who is greasing the palms of the Powers-That-Be...

Defense Contractors.. Fuck, people who get billions of dollars making missile defense systems that don't work don't need to "sell" anyone anything, do they?

Oil Companies- fuckit, they don't have to sell their product. As long as no one comes up with a viable alternative to fossil fuels (no danger of that happening, between a petro-government and an educational system run by people who think the Bible is a Science Textbook) the consumers will continue to buy.. People won't stop buying gas any more than junkies will stop buying heroin.

Right next to the oil companies you have folks like Halliburton-- 'nuff said.

Then of course you have the Enron-style corporations, which don't "sell" anything at all.

No, the idea of a business that actually makes shit people want and choose to pay for is much more of a bleeding heart, Democrat style notion- Republican brand of bizness is all about crony capitalism and the giant, government-assisted heist.. sort of like 3 card montie on a huge scale... watch us issue self-righteous platitudes in Preist's robes and pay no attention to the fact that we are simulatenously robbing your ass blind.

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