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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:08 PM
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Are there any countries that see the potential for hemp?
Maybe if other countries start producing fuel from it, as well as all the other wonderful things it provides, maybe our country will wake up.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:11 PM
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1. Can it be put in gas tanks and burned in internal combustion engines
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:12 PM
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3. Why yes...
yes it can, Henry Ford did it.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:16 PM
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7. Please explain
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:22 PM
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12. Please see links provided...
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:22 PM by slor
and look into Ford's work at Iron Mountain, I believe that was the name, he was quite simply, way ahead of his time, and sadly, our time too, it appears.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:14 PM
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5. Freedom is NORML
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:32 PM
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14. China
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:35 PM by firefox
You can tell people over and over again about hemp and they just zone out. But if you really read on it over the years, you really understand how great a thing it is.

For me there is no more desirable a food than hemp seed or hemp oil. A big part of why people are sick is because they do not get enough omega-3 and/or they get to much omega-6.

But really what made me say China, is what they have already done with research. You have to realize that the stuff they say about hemp overgrowing everything and not needing pesticide like cotton is a great benefit and that it is not just BS.

The Chinese have an extensive research program on breeds so that they can grow the best crop for purpose and location. China cannot afford to be a throw away society and long lasting hemp clothes are going to be big in China. And with the limit on quotas and all tariffs removed on textiles between WTO countries, I was hoping that we would see some cheaper hemp clothing. Every comment I have ever heard boast on hemp clothes, but they really are rather pricey, just like hempseed and oil- http://www.globalhemp.com/

I have no idea why people keep thinking about burning the oil. It is $50 a gallon- http://cannabisnews.com/news/18/thread18696.shtml It will always be expensive and it is too valuable as food. The problem with hemp in clothing is the fiber has to be cured and Canada is looking for an enzyme that will help with this and lower manufacturing cost.

The answer to your question is China, for real.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:43 PM
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20. If grown in the right quantities...
it would be cheaper, and you would still have the fiber to make the clothing and other things. It burns clean and serves as a carbon sink, so I say grow it in large quantities and take advantage of all the wonderful uses it can provide.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:47 PM
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21. One thing is for sure. It should not be illegal to grow.n/t
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:40 PM
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17. No
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:46 PM by firefox
It can be used in diesel engines and can be added to the fuel without modification to the engine. It is still too expensive to do such a thing. People in Britain add vegetable oil to their diesels sometimes and it is cost effective because there are no taxes. Of course the way I read about it is when the tax man catches them.

There is real benefit to adding vegetable oil to diesel engines as it cuts pollution dramatically. I have read of them doing it in Chile and they do it with diesel vehicles used by the government in the Great Smokey Mountain National Park where pollution is killing the trees.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:51 PM
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22. I drive a diesel...
powered by biodiesel. It is veggie (soy) oil that has been modified chemically. Hemp is not the best plant for oil, but neither is soy. But hemp has the other uses: paper, cloth, food, etc. It's better for paper than trees, which is probably why it's illegal. William Randolf Hearst was a vocal opponant of hemp, and besides his newspapers he had large timber holdings that would have lost value if hemp replaced wood as the starting point for paper. Is this a great country or what!

Bill
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:42 PM
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19. Drive on hemp
The biomass (leaves, etc) is fermented in the presence of water. You distill the ethanol, and flex-fuel cars and trucks can run up to an 85% solution mixed with gasoline (called E85). Regular gas engines can run 10% ethanol. Hemp can produce more biomass per acre than most every other plant, and it grows in soil that is too poor to support much else. We currently get ethanol from corn, which needs much more land and fertilizer than hemp. Last time I looked, you couldn't buy E85 east of Iowa.

Bill
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:11 PM
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2. Are You Kidding?
This country is so far backwards, it will never happen in our lifetime unfortunately. Perhaps a country like Canada, or some Scandanavian country, but not the U.S. Our government, repub & dems, are far too lame to ever admit they were wrong about hemp or marijuana. There are probably countless possibilities for these substances to do good, but we are too stubborn to do the research necessary to learn more.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:14 PM
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4. oh sheesh
it could totally save our economy if we weren't dominated by a bunch of short sighted oil corporatists who have no clue whatsoever.

It grows anywhere, can create an abundance of textiles, paper, rope, pacifists, and some say fuel. . .yet we'll be the last to jump on that particular bandwagon.

Watch for other more progressive countries to ace us on this one, long before we get a frigging clue.

Hurumphhhhhh. Drives me nuts.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:15 PM
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6. Here's some info on that...
Scroll down to TODAY"S HEMP INDUSTRY:

http://www.thehia.org/hempfacts.htm
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:19 PM
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8. Cool...thank you!
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:19 PM by slor
Now thats' how you respond to this kind of post!
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:07 PM
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23. No prob... and here's some more info on hemp
Particularly Chapter 9 ECONOMICS ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT - where it talks about hemp as a clean, renewable fuel source:
http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:21 PM
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11. There's the answer to the social security deficit problem
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:34 PM
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16. Hemp could save this planet...
if humans would only devote themselves to utilize it properly. I absolutely believe this is true.
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spikesmom Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:08 PM
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24. LEGALIZE IT!!!!
TAX IT!! FEED THE POOR ! SMOKE IT IN THE PEACE PIPE -MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:19 PM
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26. "...don't crit-i-cize it (bedoop)"
Legalize it - don´t criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja

Legalize it - don´t criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That´s the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too

Legalize it - don´t criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

It´s good for the flu
It´s good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis

Legalize it - don´t criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it

-Peter Tosh
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:19 PM
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9. INDUSTRIAL HEMP PRODUCERS
In this section, you will find everything from the laws and regulations pertaining to industrial hemp to application forms for permits and licences, and industry information. There is also a list of frequently asked questions and answers to help you understand the parameters in which industrial hemp can be produced, processed and distributed in Canada. If you seek further information on the subject, please contact the Industrial Hemp Regulations Program within the Office of Controlled Substances.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/ocs/hemp/hemp_producers.htm
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:20 PM
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10. Canada grows hemp
for clothing and other things. Just down the road from me is a store called "Hemporium". They have great, comfortable clothes made from hemp. Go figure. Plus, they (the government and farm agencies) are looking at combining hemp and canola to be used as a bio-diesel fuel. No toxic emissions and can be grown easily.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:23 PM
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13. Hemp defeated fascism
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 09:29 PM by wuushew
why we choose not to save ourselves from peak oil is beyond me.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:34 PM
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15. jamaica
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Hooloovoo Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:42 PM
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18. Hemp diapers for babies
http://www.babykicks.com/

Super absorbent and durable! (I'm not a representative of this store nor am I getting any personal benefit from posting the link, but I thought it would be informative.)
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:16 PM
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25. Sure... you run out of weed, scrape your bong clean...
...and are forced to smoke your baby's diapers? Not for me - gotta draw a line somewhere...;):D

Welcome to DU, Hoo!:hi:
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