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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:37 PM
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Poll question: Poll....Terry Schiavo ......kept alive or allowed to die ??
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:40 PM
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1. BTW....i'm not sure. n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:42 PM
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2. let the husband decide
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:45 PM
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3. Exactly. Who are we to presume we know better than the person who knows
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 08:45 PM by AP
and loves this woman and to whom she told her wishes?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:46 PM
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4. More importantly, the person SHE granted the right to speak on her
behalf in the event she could not.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:46 PM
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5. let husband and family duke it out--this isn't newsworthy
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:26 PM
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13. It is very newsworthy ...
if only to reinforce the importance of a living will, regardless of age. This is a very personal issue, yet it effects us all if courts allow second parties to usurp the rights of someone legally considered as guardian. I find it scary that I could be kept "alive" against my own wishes and frankly am glad that it has been brought to light. I disagree with the political turn and feel there is much unnecessary exploitation, but there is a lot for us to learn in this.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:50 PM
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6. Since only 7% in NBC poll suggest they would want to live on life support
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 08:52 PM by Quixote1818
then I have to side with her husband first then if their is conflicting stories default to the probability of her chances of not wanting to live on life support which would be 93%. The burden should be proving she would want to live on life support.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:12 PM
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10. oh, I so agree!!
The idea that without a so-called living will a person could be subjected to artificial life support and the cruelty of not being allowed to die when it's their time is absurd. Only those nutjobs who would WANT to rob resources from the living, be a bother to their loved ones, and be kept "alive" for no good reason should have to make living wills, and they should have the means--insurance or otherwise to pay for the extended care of their corpse.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:33 PM
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16. If congress does do a Bill I hope it reeds like your post but I am not
holding my breath. It will probably be the other way around. Sad but true.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:00 PM
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7. So much for Demos being called "bleeding hearts"
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:04 PM
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8. My heart does not bleed for a human toy any more than it would
if a Teddy Bear was taken off life support.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:27 PM
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19. Exactly! The DU take on this floors me.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:46 PM
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20. The DU take on this is in step with most of the country. Just look
at the polls. 60% are with the husband and over 90% would not want to be kept alive if on life support. You are in the minority.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:04 PM
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9. you can't keep her alive
She's dead, Jim. She has no cerebral cortex. You can keep the body from rotting too much and allow the hospital to continue drawing from Medicaid but you can't keep her alive because she isn't alive.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:13 PM
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11. I voted...
... I voted to let docs decide if there is hope..

Though in real life, I believe that has been done and the answer is no.

Heyo
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:14 PM
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12.  This may be question with no answer
Does life create morals or morals create life ?Now throw some technology in there to clutter it all up.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:28 PM
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14. THis interview with Michael Schiavo
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 09:29 PM by zidzi
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:10 AM
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33. Wow. Sheds a lot of light. n/t
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:31 PM
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15. Vegetative States
According to a medical ethicist at UofP, even though there are responses to stimuli by people in persistent vegatative states, those responses come from the autonomic nervous system - kind of like the twitching of a frogs' legs from galvonic stimuli.
Terry Schiavo died a long time ago.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 10:10 PM
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18. No recent pictures of her.....
her husband forbid any pics of her over past 2 years.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:51 AM
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24. I ask you to consider why he did it
Her parents had already leaked EDITED videos of Terri that were designed to show her responding to stimuli, voices, balloons etc. The took over 4 hours of tape and edited it to a 15 minute "proof" that Terri responds.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:41 PM
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17. None of our fucking business.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 09:42 PM by BuyingThyme
This is for the families and their doctors.

Lawyers and politicians and nosy-bodies should fuck off.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:58 PM
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22. Their always has to be someone scolding everyone for giving an opinion
Of course it's for the families and the doctors but what is wrong with a little poll to see where people fall? :nopity:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:07 AM
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25. I'm responding to the poll question.
You are scolding.

Reality check.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 11:51 PM
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21. I didn't vote, it's not up to me
I support what her husband and the law decide.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 12:29 AM
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23. Pull the tube.
If it's "God's plan" to heal her, she'll be healed.

I am fed up with people constantly trying to say the actions of men are God's will.

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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:12 AM
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26. thumbs down
the emperor has decided, not in her favor... :thumbsdown:

my god, brain dead for 15 years... move on people.
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:09 AM
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27. keep the tube in
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:18 AM
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28. Let her die
They've put that woman and her husband through hell.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:24 AM
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29. It is inhumane to starve anything to death. If I were Terri, I would want
terminal sedation. They have no right to keep us alive against our will, and also no right to forbid us a more merciful death by terminal sedation.
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WillieWoohah Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 03:48 AM
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30. I think her wish should be respected
However I don't think that a feeding tube is analogous to an artificial respirator or any other kind of machine used to keep someone alive in a vegetative state. Providing nourishment is not equivalent to keeping someone alive via medical intervention. Were it not for the fact that she had explicitly requested otherwise when she was still able-minded I would be against allowing her to die.

Also, why must she be starved to death? Why not euthanise her with an overdose of morphine?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:53 AM
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36. "Why not euthanise her with an overdose of morphine?"
The doctor that did it wouldn't make it 50 feet out in the parking lot without being mobbed and savagely killed.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:00 AM
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31. Just don't pay her hospital bill; then the hospital will pull the plug.
And that's fine with the rightwingnuts.

It's the FREEDOM OF CHOICE BY INDIVIDUAL AMERICANS that the rightwingnuts hate.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:04 AM
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32. Honestly, I'm not sure.
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 04:08 AM by Lone_Wolf_Moderate
This question really hinges on three factors: Terri Schiavo's quality of life (is she really brain-dead?), her wish to die (was that really what she wanted?), and her husband's motives (he cheated on her, etc). If there is any life in her, starving her for two weeks is a cruel way to die. Michael Schiavo makes clear that it was Terri's wish to die with dignity. Is that really true? There needs to be a living will in cases like this.

The grandstanding and disgraceful political thuggery of DeLay and crew notwithstanding, if Terri Schiavo has life, and if it's not clear about her ultimate wish, then we do have a tough issue on our hands.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:08 AM
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34. I'm not sure either.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:34 AM
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35. Problem
She's not 'alive' in any real sense of the word to begin with.

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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 04:21 PM
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37. Everyone is so sure......
but me.
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