McGovern: Attacking Iran

[clem_c_rock]

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0302-31.htm

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"The crazies" are not finished. And we do well not to let their ultimate folly obscure their current ambition, and the further trouble that ambition is bound to bring in the four years ahead. In an immediate sense, with U.S. military power unrivaled, they can be seen as "crazy like a fox," with a value system in which "might makes right." Operating out of that value system, and now sporting the more respectable misnomer/moniker "neoconservative," they are convinced that they know exactly what they are doing. They have a clear ideology and a geopolitical strategy, which leap from papers they put out at the Project for the New American Century over recent years.

The very same men who, acting out of that paradigm, brought us the war in Iraq are now focusing on Iran, which they view as the only remaining obstacle to American domination of the entire oil-rich Middle East. They calculate that, with a docile, corporate-owned press, a co-opted mainstream church, and a still-trusting populace, the United States and/or the Israelis can launch a successful air offensive to disrupt any Iranian nuclear weapons programs -- with the added bonus of possibly causing the regime in power in Iran to crumble.

[clem_c_rock]

1. Awe come on this is a great article

[Karenina]

2. This is not just a "great article"

it's an important perspective from an experienced and articulate "player." But never mind... MICHAEL JACKSON LIMPS INTO COURTROOM at the top of the hour! Stay tuned!!!

[clem_c_rock]

3. This Fuggin' pisses me off. Sometimes I think DU'rs focus on

some minor posts while the good one's that could really affect our lives just pass on by.

[Avalux]

4. I agree

the important stuff sometimes gets overlooked. Kick and nominated. :hi:

[clem_c_rock]

5. Thanks - I thought I was going to get people riled

because I said that.

This is very important as it would definitely bring back a draft and, possibly, much worse.

[lumpy]

6. deserves a boot

x

[Avalux]

7. You're welcome - worse is already happening -

and they want to attack Iran? Here's what I learned today -

Air Force medical personnel (docs, nurses, techs) upon arrival at mobile field hospital in Iraq are being given M16s and told they have to guard the hospital themselves and act as escorts. These are medical people - they've never handled a gun and aren't supposed to under the Geneva Convention. At first, the Air Force wasn't training them stateside, just sending them for a 6 month tour and handing them guns when they deplaned. Now, they get 1 DAY of training before their tour. Pardon my french, but this is FUCKED UP. Doctors and nurses aren't supposed to shoot people.

I'll be starting a much more detailed thread on this later this evening, after I speak again with my source.

[hvn_nbr_2]

8. Geneva Convention? How quaint.

The time is coming when there's gonna be a wake-up call with h*!! to pay. I just hope it's the criminals who pay, and not the whole country. But when things go as far as they have, it doesn't usually work that way.

[paineinthearse]

9. A worthy recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom

Not like the 3 stooges * gave the medal to.

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/GeorgeMcGovern.htm

[Octafish]

11. Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst.

Founded a group called Veteran Intelligence Analysts for Sanity.

George, OTOH, is a great Senator, Liberal and war hero. The other guy in the picture was the last real President the United States. had, IMFO.

[pstans]

10. Do you feel a draft?

Do you feel a draft? Say come June it will be time to run to Canada.

[Octafish]

12. Keep it kicked and spread the word - the Crazies are the BFEE!

The Crazies

The right-wing think tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is founded in Washington. It flatly states that its main goal is to achieve global political and military dominion for the United States. Their first action is a statement that calls for "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity." Members include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby, James Woolsey, writer Francis Fukuyama, William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, Bush's Vice President Dan Quayle, billionaire publisher Steve Forbes, Reagan national security official and key Iran-contra figure Elliot Abrams, and writer Norman Podhoretz. It is this organization that coins the term "Pax Americana" to sum up its ideas for global dominion. Later, ABC's Ted Koppel will characterize PNAC's ideas as "a secret blueprint for US global dominion." Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern says that the PNAC members had a certain reputation around Washington: "When we saw those people coming back into town, all of us said...'Oh my God, the crazies are back.'" McGovern says that their geopolitical schemes of world domination would typically go "right into the circular file." (CCR, Dominion, Asia Times, Amy and David Goodman)

SOURCE w/Links:

http://www.iraqtimeline.com/1997.html

[artemisia1]

13. kick n/t.

[LynnTheDem]

14. Iranians will throw flora and confectionary at our feet and weep for joy

Except the most pro-American liberal they have, their female Nobel Peace Prize winning Shirin Ebadi, (did you know the bushCartel have blocked her book from being published in America?) says the Iranians won't.

Who to believe...her and all the experts? Or the crazies who were so correct about everything in Iraq, including the flowers and choccie and WMD and only 30,000 US troops in Iraq by summer 2003?

Wow, a toughie. :eyes:

Attacking Iran Would Bring Disaster, Not Freedom

"Given the long-standing willingness of the American government to overlook abuses of human rights, particularly women's rights, by close allies in the Middle East like Saudi Arabia, it is hard not to see the Bush administration's focus on human rights violations in Iran as a cloak for its larger strategic interests,"

Respect for human rights in any country must spring forth through the will of the people and as part of a genuine democratic process. Such respect can never be imposed by foreign military might and coercion - an approach that abounds in contradictions.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0219-29.htm

[Swamp Rat]

15. kick