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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:22 AM
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LONG master list of scientists, microbiologists with odd demises
I got this in an email, and don't know if it's posted anywhere online, or why this "Mark" compiler is Mark Harper and Mark Marconi (?).

The small number of ones I am familiar with look to be accurate. If you have information that contradicts any of this, I guess post it here and send it along to the author?

This list is amazing. Note the computer-controlled aircraft and missile stuff (9-11?). --Zan

Dead Scientists And Microbiologists - Master List
Compiled by Mark J. Harper
[email protected] 2-5-05


(partial list)

If you see any incorrect dates or errors, please provide me with accurate information.
Thank you,
Mark Marconi -- Scientists Mystery

In the 1980's over two dozen science graduates and experts working for Marconi or Plessey Defence Systems died in mysterious circumstances, most appearing to be suicides. The MOD denied these scientists had been involved in classified Star Wars Projects and that the deaths were in any way connected. Judge for yourself...


March 1982: Professor Keith Bowden, 46 --Expertise: Computer programmer and scientist at Essex University engaged in work for Marconi, who was hailed as an expert on super computers and computer-controlled aircraft. --Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash when his vehicle went out of control across a dual carriageway and plunged onto a disused railway line. Police maintained he had been drinking but family and friends all denied the allegation. --Coroner's verdict: Accident.

April 1983: Lt-Colonel Anthony Godley, 49 --Expertise: Head of the Work Study Unit at the Royal College of Military Science. --Circumstance of Death: Disappeared mysteriously in April 1983 without explanation. Presumed dead.

March 1985: Roger Hill, 49 --Expertise: Radar designer and draughtsman with Marconi. --Circumstance of Death: Died by a shotgun blast at home. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

November 19, 1985: Jonathan Wash, 29 --Expertise: Digital communications expert who had worked at GEC and at British Telecom's secret research centre at Martlesham Heath, Suffolk. --Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of falling from a hotel room in Abidjan, West Africa, while working for British Telecom. He had expressed fears that his life was in danger. --Coroner's verdict: Open.

August 4, 1986: Vimal Dajibhai, 24 --Expertise: Computer software engineer with Marconi, responsible for testing computer control systems of Tigerfish and Stingray torpedoes at Marconi Underwater Systems at Croxley Green, Hertfordshire. --Circumstance of Death: Death by 74m (240ft.) fall from Clifton Suspension Bridge, Bristol. Police report on the body mentioned a needle-sized puncture wound on the left buttock, but this was later dismissed as being a result of the fall. Dajibhai had been looking forward to starting a new job in the City of London and friends had confirmed that there was no reason for him to commit suicide. At the time of his death he was in the last week of his work with Marconi. --Coroner's verdict: Open.


October 1986: Arshad Sharif, 26 --Expertise: Reported to have been working on systems for the detection of submarines by satellite. --Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of placing a ligature around his neck, tying the other end to a tree and then driving off in his car with the accelerator pedal jammed down. His unusual death was complicated by several issues: Sharif lived near Vimal Dajibhai in Stanmore, Middlesex, he committed suicide in Bristol and, inexplicably, had spent the last night of his life in a rooming house. He had paid for his accommodation in cash and was seen to have a bundle of high-denomination banknotes in his possession. While the police were told of the banknotes, no mention was made of them at the inquest and they were never found. In addition, most of the other guests at the rooming house worked at British Aerospace prior to working for Marconi, Sharif had also worked at British Aerospace on guided weapons technology. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

January 1987: Richard Pugh, 37 --Expertise: MOD computer consultant and digital communications expert. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead in his flat in with his feet bound and a plastic bag over his head. Rope was tied around his body, coiling four times around his neck. --Coroner's verdict: Accident.

January 12, 1987: Dr. John Brittan, 52 --Expertise: Scientist formerly engaged in top secret work at the Royal College of Military Science at Shrivenham, Oxfordshire, and later deployed in a research department at the MOD. --Circumstance of Death: Death by carbon monoxide poisoning in his own garage, shortly after returning from a trip to the US in connection with his work. --Coroner's verdict: Accident.

February 1987: David Skeels, 43 --Expertise: Engineer with Marconi. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead in his car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust. --Coroner's verdict: Open.

February 1987: Victor Moore, 46 --Expertise: Design Engineer with Marconi Space and Defence Systems. --Circumstance of Death: Died from an overdose. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

February 22, 1987: Peter Peapell, 46 --Expertise: Scientist at the Royal College of Military Science. He had been working on testing titanium for it's resistance to explosives and the use of computer analysis of signals from metals. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead allegedly from carbon monoxide poisoning, in his Oxfordshire garage. The circumstances of his death raised some elements of doubt. His wife had found him on his back with his head parallel to the rear car bumper and his mouth in line with the exhaust pipe, with the car engine running. Police were apparently baffled as to how he could have manoeuvred into the position in which he was found. --Coroner's verdict: Open.

April 1987: George Kountis age unknown. --Expertise: Systems Analyst at Bristol Polytechnic. --Circumstance of Death: Drowned the same day as Shani Warren (see below) - as the result of a car accident, his upturned car being found in the River Mersey, Liverpool. --Coroner's verdict: Misadventure. (Kountis, sister called for a fresh inquest as she thought 'things didn't add up.')

April 10, 1987: Shani Warren, 26 --Expertise: Personal assistant in a company called Micro Scope, which was taken over by GEC Marconi less than four weeks after her death. --Circumstance of Death: Found drowned in 45cm. (18in) of water, not far from the site of David Greenhalgh's death fall. Warren died exactly one week after the death of Stuart Gooding and serious injury to Greenhalgh. She was found gagged with a noose around her neck. Her feet were also bound and her hands tied behind her back. --Coroner's verdict: Open. (It was said that Warren had gagged herself, tied her feet with rope, then tied her hands behind her back and hobbled to the lake on stiletto heels to drown herself.)

April 10, 1987: Stuart Gooding, 23 --Expertise: Postgraduate research student at the Royal College of Military Science. --Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash while on holiday in Cyprus. The death occurred at the same time as college personnel were carrying out exercises on Cyprus. --Coroner's verdict: Accident.


April 24, 1987: Mark Wisner, 24 --Expertise: Software engineer at the MOD. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead on in a house shared with two colleagues. He was found with a plastic sack around his head and several feet of cling film around his face. The method of death was almost identical to that of Richard Pugh some three months earlier. --Coroner's verdict: Accident.


March 30, 1987: David Sands, 37 --Expertise: Senior scientist working for Easams of Camberley, Surrey, a sister company to Marconi. Dr. John Brittan had also worked at Camberley. --Circumstance of Death: Fatal car crash when he allegedly made a sudden U-turn on a dual carriageway while on his way to work, crashing at high speed into a disused cafeteria. He was found still wearing his seat belt and it was discovered that the car had been carrying additional petrol cans. None of the normal, reasons for a possible suicide could be found. --Coroner's verdict: Open.

May 3, 1987: Michael Baker, 22 --Expertise: Digital communications expert working on a defence project at Plessey; part-time member of Signals Corps SAS. --Circumstance of Death: Fatal accident owhen his car crashed through a barrier near Poole in Dorset. --Coroner's verdict: Misadventure.

June 1987: Jennings, Frank, 60. --Expertise: Electronic Weapons Engineer with Plessey. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead from a heart attack. --No inquest.

January 1988: Russell Smith, 23 --Expertise: Laboratory technician with the Atomic Energy Research Establishment at Harwell, Essex. --Circumstance of Death: Died as a result of a cliff fall at Boscastle in Cornwall. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

March 25, 1988: Trevor Knight, 52 --Expertise: Computer engineer with Marconi Space and Defence Systems in Stanmore, Middlesex. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead at his home in Harpenden, Hertfordshire at the wheel of his car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust. A St.Alban's coroner said that Knight's woman friend, Miss Narmada Thanki (who also worked with him at Marconi) had found three suicide notes left by him which made clear his intentions. Miss Thanki had mentioned that Knight disliked his work but she did not detect any depression that would have driven him to suicide. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide.

August 1988: Alistair Beckham, 50 --Expertise: Software engineer with Plessey Defence Systems. --Circumstance of Death: Found dead after being electrocuted in his garden shed with wires connected to his body. --Coroner's verdict: Open.

August 22, 1988: Peter Ferry, 60 --Expertise: Retired Army Brigadier and an Assistant Marketing Director with Marconi. --Circumstance of Death: Found on 22nd or 23rd August 1988 electrocuted in his company flat with electrical leads in his mouth. --Coroner's verdict: Open

September 1988: Andrew Hall, 33 --Expertise: Engineering Manager with British Aerospace. --Circumstance of Death: Carbon monoxide poisoning in a car with a hosepipe connected to the exhaust. --Coroner's verdict: Suicide. Above list compiled by Raymond A. Robinson in 'The Alien Intent' (A Dire Warning) http://www.geocities.com/orgonegal/marconi-scientists.html (Note: link above is dead)

Date?: Dr. C. Bruton --Expertise: He had just produced a paper on a new strain of CJD. He was a CJD specialist who was killed before his work was announced to the public. --Circumstance of Death: died in a car crash.

1994/95?: Dr. Jawad Al Aubaidi --Expertise: Veterinary mycoplasma and had worked with various mycoplasmas in the 1980s at Plum Island. --Circumstance of Death: He was killed in his native Iraq while he was changing a flat tire and hit by a truck. Source: Patricia A. Doyle, PhD

1996: Tsunao Saitoh, 46 --Expertise: A leading Alzheimer's researcher --Circumstance of Death: He and his 13 year-old daughter were killed in La Jolla, California, in what a Reuters report described as a "very professionally done" shooting. He was dead behind the wheel of the car, the side window had been shot out, and the door was open. His daughter appeared to have tried to run away and she was shot dead, also.


Dec 25, 1997: Sidney Harshman, 67 --Expertise: Professor of microbiology and immunology. "He was the world's leading expert on staphylococcal alpha toxins," according to Conrad Wagner, professor of biochemistry at Vanderbilt and a close friend of Professor Harshman. "He also deeply cared for other people and was always eager to help his students and colleagues." --Circumstance of Death: Complications of diabetes

July 10, 1998: Elizabeth A. Rich, M.D., 46 --Expertise: An associate professor with tenure in the pulmonary division of the Department of Medicine at CWRU and University Hospitals of Cleveland. She was also a member of the executive committee for the Center for AIDS Research and directed the biosafety level 3 facility, a specialized laboratory for the handling of HIV, virulent TB bacteria, and other infectious agents. --Circumstance of Death: Killed in a traffic accident while visiting family in Tennessee

September 1998: Jonathan Mann, 51 --Expertise: Founding director of the World Health Organisation's global AIDS programme and founded Project SIDA in Zaire, the most comprehensive AIDS research effort in Africa at the time, and in 1986 he joined the WHO to lead the global response against Aids. He became director of WHO's global programme on AIDS which later became the UNAids programme. He then became director of the Francois-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, which was set up at Harvard School of Public Health in 1993. He caused controversy earlier this year in the post when he accused the US National Institutes of Health of violating human rights by failing to act quickly on developing AIDS vaccines. --Circumstance of Death: Died in the Swissair Flight 111 crash in Canada.

April 15, 2000: Walter W. Shervington, M.D., 62 --Expertise: An extensive writer/ lecturer/ researcher about mental health and AIDS in the African American community. --Circumstance of Death: Died of cancer at Tulane Medical Hospital.

July 16, 2000: Mike Thomas, 35 --Expertise: A microbiologist at the Crestwood Medical Center in Huntsville. --Circumstance of Death: Died a few days after examining a sample taken from a 12-year-old girl who was diagnosed with meningitis and survived.

December 25, 2000: Linda Reese, 52 --Expertise: Microbiologist working with victims of meningitis. --Circumstance of Death: Died three days after she studied a sample from Tricia Zailo, 19, a Fairfield, N.J., resident who was a sophomore at Michigan State University. Tricia Zailo died Dec. 18, a few days after she returned home for the holidays.

May 7 2001: Professor Janusz Jeljaszewicz --Expertise: Expert in Staphylococci and Staphylococcal Infections. His main scientific interests and achievements were in the mechanism of action and biological properties of staphylococcal toxins, and included the immunomodulatory properties and experimental treatment of tumours by Propionibacterium.

November 2001: Yaacov Matzner, 54 --Expertise: Dean of the Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School in Jerusalem and chairman of the Israel Society of Hematology and Blood Transfusions, was the son of Holocaust survivors. One of the world's experts on blood diseases including familiar Mediterranean fever (FMF), Matzner conducted research that led to a genetic test for FMF. He was working on cloning the gene connected to FMF and investigating the normal physiological function of amyloid A, a protein often found in high levels in people with blood cancer. --Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.

November 2001: Professor Amiram Eldor, 59 --Expertise: Head of the haematology institute, Tel Aviv's Ichilov Hospital and worked for years at Hadassah-University Hospital's haematology department but left for his native Tel Aviv in 1993 to head the haematology institute at Ichilov Hospital. He was an internationally known expert on blood clotting especially in women who had repeated miscarriages and was a member of a team that identified eight new anti-clotting agents in the saliva of leeches. --Circumstance of Death: Professors Yaacov Matzner and Amiram Eldor were on their way back to Israel via Switzerland when their plane came down in dense forest three kilometres short of the landing field.


November 6, 2001: Jeffrey Paris Wall, 41 --Expertise: He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property. --Circumstance of Death: Mr. Walls body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. He had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Nov. 16, 2001: Don C. Wiley, 57 --Expertise: One of the foremost microbiologists in the United States. Dr. Wiley, of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at Harvard University, was an expert on how the immune system responds to viral attacks such as the classic doomsday plagues of HIV, ebola and influenza. --Circumstance of Death: Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis, Tenn. His body was found Dec. 20 in the Mississippi River.

Nov. 21, 2001: Vladimir Pasechnik, 64 --Expertise: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector; defected to the United Kingdom in 1989, played a huge role in Russian biowarfare and helped to figure out how to modify cruise missiles to deliver the agents of mass biological destruction. --Background: founded Regma Biotechnologies company in Britain, a laboratory at Porton Down, the country´s chem-bio warfare defense establishment. Regma currently has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax". --Circumstance of Death: The pathologist who did the autopsy, and who also happened to be associated with Britain´s spy agency, concluded he died of a stroke. Details of the postmortem were not revealed at an inquest, in which the press was given no prior notice. Colleagues who had worked with Pasechnik said he was in good health.

Dec. 10, 2001: Robert M. Schwartz, 57 --Expertise: Expert in DNA sequencing and pathogenic micro-organisms, founding member of the Virginia Biotechnology Association, and the Executive Director of Research and Development at Virginia´s Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon. --Circumstance of Death: stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and several of her fellow pagans have been charged.

Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set, 44 --Expertise: animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox. --Circumstance of Death: died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen.

January 2002: Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski. --Expertise: Two microbiologists. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science. --Circumstance of Death: Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow.

January 28, 2002: David W. Barry, 58 --Expertise: Scientist who codiscovered AZT, the antiviral drug that is considered the first effective treatment for AIDS. --Circumstance of Death: unknown

Feb. 9, 2002: Victor Korshunov, 56 --Expertise: Expert in intestinal bacteria of children around the world --Circumstance of Death: bashed over the head near his home in Moscow.

Feb. 14, 2002: Ian Langford, 40 --Expertise: expert in environmental risks and disease. --Circumstance of Death: found dead in his home near Norwich, England, naked from the waist down and wedged under a chair.

Feb. 28, 2002: Tanya Holzmayer, 46 --Expertise: a Russian who moved to the U.S. in 1989, focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine. --Circumstance of Death: killed by fellow microbiologist Guyang (Matthew) Huang, who shot her seven times when she opened the door to a pizza delivery. Then he shot himself.

Feb. 28, 2002: Guyang Huang, 38 --Expertise: Microbiologist --Circumstance of Death: Apparently shot himself after shooting fellow microbiologist, Tanya Holzmayer, seven times.

March 24, 2002: David Wynn-Williams, 55 --Expertise: Respected astrobiologist with the British Antarctic Survey, who studied the habits of microbes that might survive in outer space. --Circumstance of Death: Died in a freak road accident near his home in Cambridge, England. He was hit by a car while he was jogging.


March 25, 2002: Steven Mostow, 63 --Expertise: Known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre. --Circumstance of Death: died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

Nov. 12, 2002: Benito Que, 52 --Expertise: Expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School --Circumstance of Death: Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness. Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. But, later, oddly, the family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.

April 2003: Carlo Urbani, 46 --Expertise: A dedicated and internationally respected Italian epidemiologist, who did work of enduring value combating infectious illness around the world. --Circumstance of Death: Died in Bangkok from SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) - the new disease that he had helped to identify. Thanks to his prompt action, the epidemic was contained in Vietnam. However, because of close daily contact with SARS patients, he contracted the infection. On March 11, he was admitted to a hospital in Bangkok and isolated. Less than three weeks later he died.

June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman of UCSD, 47 A resident of Carmel Valley --Expertise: An expert in infectious disease who helped the county prepare to fight bioterrorism after Sept. 11. --Circumstance of Death: He was in the African nation of Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews of UCSD, the director of the university's Owen Clinic for AIDS patients. Dr. Rickman had complained of a headache and had gone to lie down. When he didn't appear for dinner, Mathews checked on him and found him dead. A cause has not yet been determined.

July 18, 2003: Dr. David Kelly, 59 --Expertise: Biological warfare weapons specialist, senior post at the Ministry of Defense, an expert on DNA sequencing when he was head of microbiology at Porton Down and worked with two American scientists, Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57. --Helped Vladimir Pasechnik found Regma Biotechnologies, which has a contract with the U.S. Navy for "the diagnostic and therapeutic treatment of anthrax" --Circumstance of Death: He was found dead after seemingly slashing his wrist in a wooded area near his home at Southmoor, Oxfordshire.

Oct 11 or 24, 2003: Michael Perich, 46 --Expertise: LSU professor who helped fight the spread of the West Nile virus. Perich worked with the East Baton Rouge Parish Mosquito Control and Rodent Abatement District to determine whether mosquitoes in the area carried West Nile. --Circumstance of Death: Walker Police Chief Elton Burns said Sunday that Perich of 5227 River Bend Blvd., Baton Rouge, crashed his Ford pickup truck about 4:30 a.m. Saturday, while heading west on Interstate 12 in Livingston Parish. Perich's truck veered right off the highway about 3 miles east of Walker, flipped and landed in rainwater, Burns said. Perich, who was wearing his seat belt, drowned. The cause of the crash is under investigation, Burns said. "Mike is one of the few entomologists with the experience to go out and save lives today." ~ Robert A. Wirtz, chief of entomology at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

November 22, 2003: Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45 --Expertise: He was studying the virus that was plaguing cruise ships until he was killed by a mysterious white van in November of 2003 --Circumstance of Death: Burghoff was walking on a sidewalk along the 1600 block of South Braeswood in Houston, Texas when a white van jumped the curb and hit him at 1:35 p.m. Thursday, police said. The van then sped away. Burghoff died an hour later at Memorial Hermann Hospital.

December 18, 2003: Robert Aranosia, 61 --Expertise: Oakland County deputy medical examiner --Circumstance of Death: He was driving south on I-75 when his pickup truck went off the freeway near a bridge over the Kawkawlin River. The vehicle rolled over several times before landing in the median. Aranosia was thrown from the vehicle and ended up on the shoulder of the northbound lanes.


January 6, 2004: Dr Richard Stevens, 54 --Expertise: A haematologist. (Haematologists analyse the cellular composition of blood and blood producing tissues eg bone marrow) --Circumstance of Death: Disappeared after arriving for work on 21 July, 2003. A doctor whose disappearance sparked a national manhunt, killed himself because he could not cope with the stress of a secret affair, a coroner has ruled.

January 23 2004: Dr. Robert E. Shope, 74 --Expertise: An expert on viruses who was the principal author of a highly publicized 1992 report by the National Academy of Sciences warning of the possible emergence of new and unsettling infectious illnesses. Dr. Shope had accumulated his own collection of virus samples gathered from all over the world. --Circumstance of Death: The cause was complications of a lung transplant he received in December, said his daughter Deborah Shope of Galveston. Dr. Shope had pulmonary fibrosis, a disease of unknown origin that scars the lungs.

January 24 2004: Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, 62 --Expertise: Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class. --Circumstance of Death: Died of massive heart attack. Coincidently, both Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.

March 13, 2004: Vadake Srinivasan --Expertise: Microbiologist. --Circumstance of Death: crashed car into guard rail and ruled a stroke.

April 12, 2004: Ilsley Ingram, 84 --Expertise: Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London. --Circumstance of Death: unknown

May 5, 2004: William T. McGuire, 39 --Expertise: NJ University Professor and Senior programmer analyst and adjunct professor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark. --Circumstance of Death: Body found in 3 Suitcases floating in Chesapeake Bay.

May 14, 2004: Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, 56 --Expertise: Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an open letter outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of new energy research. Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device. --Circumstance of Death: Died after being beaten to death during an alleged robbery.

May 25, 2004: Antonina Presnyakova --Expertise: Former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia --Circumstance of Death: Died after accidentally sticking herself with a needle laced with Ebola.

July 21, 2004: Dr. John Badwey 54 --Expertise: Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge. Biochemist at Harvard Medical School specializing in infectious diseases. --Circumstance of Death: Suddenly developed pneumonia like symptoms then died in two weeks.

June 22, 2004: Thomas Gold, 84 --Expertise: He was the founder, and for twenty years the director, of the Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, where he was a close colleague of Planetary Society co-founder Carl Sagan. Gold was famous for his provocative, controversial, and sometimes outrageous theories. Gold's theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. Gold sparked controversy in 1955 when he suggested that the Moon's surface is covered with a fine rock powder. --Circumstance of Death: Died of heart failure.

June 24, 2004: Dr. Assefa Tulu, 45 --Expertise: Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist. He was charged with tracking the health of the county, including the spread of diseases, such as syphilis, AIDS and measles. He also designed a system for detecting a bioterrorism attack involving viruses or bacterial agents. Tulu often coordinated efforts to address major health concerns in Dallas County, such as the West Nile virus outbreaks of the past few years, and worked with the media to inform the public. --Circumstance of Death: Dallas County's chief epidemiologist, was found at his desk, died of a stroke.

June 27, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, Of Salisbury, Wiltshire, 52 --Expertise: He was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence's laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. He travelled the world lecturing on the subject of weapons of mass destruction. --Circumstance of Death: Died when the Cessna 206 crashed shortly after taking off from Dunkeswell Airfield on Sunday. A father and daughter also died at the scene, and 44-year-old parachute instructor and Royal Marine Major Mike Wills later died in the hospital. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/3860995.stm

June 29, 2004: John Mullen, 67 --Expertise: A nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas. --Circumstance of Death: Died from a huge dose of poisonous arsenic.

July 1, 2004: Edward Hoffman, 62 --Expertise: Aside from his role as a professor, Hoffman held leadership positions within the UCLA medical community. Worked to develop the first human PET scanner in 1973 at Washington University in St. Louis. --Circumstance of Death: unknown


July 2, 2004: Larry Bustard, 53 --Expertise: A Sandia scientist who helped develop a foam spray to clean up congressional buildings and media sites during the anthrax scare in 2001. Worked at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. His team came up with a new technology used against biological and chemical agents. --Circumstance of Death: unknown

July 6, 2004: Stephen Tabet, 42 --Expertise: An associate professor and epidemiologist at the University of Washington. A world-renowned HIV doctor and researcher who worked with HIV patients in a vaccine clinical trial for the HIV Vaccine Trials Network. --Circumstance of Death: Died of an unknown illness

July 21, 2004: Dr Bassem al-Mudares --Expertise: He was a Ph D chemist --Circumstance of Death: His mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq and had been tortured before being killed.

August 12, 2004: Professor John Clark --Expertise: Head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep. Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world's leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame. --Circumstance of Death: He was found hanging in his holiday home.

September 5, 2004: Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani --Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist. He was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984. --Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad.

October 13, 2004: Matthew Allison, 32 Fatal explosion of a car parked at an Osceola County, Fla., Wal-Mart store was no accident, Local 6 News has learned. Found inside a burned car. Witnesses said the man left the store at about 11 p.m. and entered his Ford Taurus car when it exploded. Investigators said they found a Duraflame log and propane canisters on the front passenger's seat.

November 2, 2004: John R. La Montagne --Expertise: Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson. Was NIAID Deputy Director. --Circumstance of Death: Died while in Mexico, no cause stated.

December 21, 2004: Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher --Expertise: Iraqi nuclear scientist --Circumstance of Death: He was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:23 AM
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1. Don't want them to interfere with the coming thinning of the herd
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:28 AM
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2. They need to learn to be nicer to students and colleagues.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:31 AM
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3. OMG--send it to everyone you know in science-I have friends
high up in some of these fields--they need to know, assuming they don't already.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:51 AM
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4. One thing -- too bad it's not sourced.
I know you guys know this, but when someone is going to this much trouble to compile something, it's helpful to others who come behind you if you include footnotes or something with your sources.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:10 PM
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5. That's a head spinner!
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:37 PM
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6. kick
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:04 PM
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7. kick again.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:09 PM
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8. so?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 12:11 PM by WoodrowFan
So in the past 20+ years 40 of the thouands of scientists who were working on this stuff have died or been killed.

gee, what are the odds. :eyes:

This is as bogus as the "Clinton Death List." I'd lay money most of the "suspicious" deaths are only "suspicious" in the list writer's mind.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:14 PM
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9. and what about all the ones who died of 'natural causes'
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 12:15 PM by northzax
did they just die too quickly, before they could be executed?

and don't forget, 2 of the 40 were Iraqi. folks may have heard, but there's a little way going on there right about now.

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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:15 PM
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10. maybe they actually died
of natural causes. :eyes:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:18 PM
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11. not a chance!
the cabal would never let that happen! If one dies of natural causes then all the others will start thinking that maybe they'll get to die of natural causes as well! and then they get sloppy! and uppity! can't have that!

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:51 PM
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13. "Did 22 SDI Researchers really ALL Commit Suicide?"
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 12:52 PM by Desertrose
Geez, '87 & 88 were particuarly bad years.....DR


http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/sdi-deaths.html

Are the scientists victims of a corrupt defense industry? Have they been espionage pawns? Are the deaths nothing more than an extraordinary coincidence? Guess.


DOSSIER OF DEATH

1. AUTO ACCIDENT--Professor Keith Bowden, 45, computer scientist, Essex University. In March 1982 Bowden's car plunged off a bridge, into am abandoned rail yard. His death was listed as an accident.
2. MISSING PERSON--Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Godley, 49, defense expert, head of work-study unit at the Royal Military College of Science. Godley disappeared in April 1983. His father bequeathes him more than $60,000, with the proviso that he claim it be 1987. He never showed up and is presumed dead.
3. SHOTGUN BLAST--Roger Hill, 49, radar designer and draftsman, Marconi. In March 1985 Hill allegedly killed himself with a shotgun at the family home.
4. DEATH LEAP--Jonathan Walsh, 29, digital-communications expert assigned to British Telecom's secret Martlesham Health research facility (and to GEC, Marconi's parent firm). In November 1985 Walsh allegedly fell from his hotel room while working on a British Telecom project in Abidjan, Ivory Coast (Africa). He had expressed a fear for his life. Verdict: Still in question.
5. DEATH LEAP--Vimal Dajibhai, 24, computer-software engineer (worked on guidance system for Tigerfish torpedo), Marconi Underwater Systems. In August 1986 Dajibhai's crumpled remains were found 240 feet below the Clifton suspension bridge in Bristol. The death has not been listed as a suicide.
6. DECAPITATION--Ashaad Sharif, 26, computer analyst, Marconi Defense Systems. In October 1986, in Bristol, Sharif allegedly tied one end of a rope around a tree and the other end around his neck, then drove off in his car at high speed. Verdict: Suicide.
7. SUFFOCATION--Richard Pugh, computer consultant for the Ministry of Defense. In January 1987 Pugh was found dead, wrapped head-to- toe in rope that was tied four times around his neck. The coroner listed his death as an accident due to a sexual experiment gone awry.
8. ASPHYXIATION--John Brittan, Ministry of Defense tank batteries expert, Royal Military College of Science. In January 1987 Brittan was found dead in a parked car in his garage. The engine was still running. Verdict: Accidental death.
9. DRUG OVERDOSE--Victor Moore, 46, design engineer, Marconi Space Systems. In February 1987 Moore was found dead of a drug overdose. His death is listed as a suicide.
10. ASPHYXIATION--Peter Peapell, 46, scientist, Royal Military College of Science. In February 1987 Peapell was found dead beneath his car, his face near the tail pipe, in the garage of his Oxfordshire home. Death was due to carbon-monoxide poisoning, although test showed that the engine had been running only a short time. Foul play has not been ruled out.
11. ASPHYXIATION--Edwin Skeels, 43, engineer, Marconi. In February 1987 Skeels was found dead in his car, a victim of carbon-monoxide poisoning. A hose led from the exhaust pipe. His death is listed as a suicide.
12. AUTO ACCIDENT--David Sands, satellite projects manager, Eassams (a Marconi sister company). Although up for a promotion, in March 1987 Sands drove a car filled with gasoline cans into the brick wall of an abandoned cafe. He was killed instantly. Foul play has not been ruled out.
13. AUTO ACCIDENT--Stuart Gooding, 23, postgraduate research student, Royal Military College of Science. In April 1987 Gooding died in a mysterious car wreck in Cyprus while the College was holding military exercises on the island. Verdict: Accidental death.
14. AUTO ACCIDENT--George Kountis, experienced systems analyst at British Polytechnic. In April 1987 Kountis drowned after his BMW plunged into the Mersey River in Liverpool. His death is listed as a misadventure.
15. SUFFOCATION--Mark Wisner, 24, software engineer at Ministry of Defense experimental station for combat aircraft. In April 1987 Wisner was found dead in his home with a plastic bag over his head. At the inqust, his death was rules an accident due to a sexual experiment gone awry.
16. AUTO ACCIDENT--Michael Baker, 22, digital-communications expert, Plessey Defense Systems. In May 1987 Baker's BMW crashed through a road barrier, killing the driver. Verdict: Misadventure.
17. HEART ATTACK--Frank Jennings, 60, electronic-weapons engineer for Plessey. In June 1987 Jennings allegedly dropped dead of a heart attack. No inquest was held.
18. DEATH LEAP--Russel Smith, 23, lab technician at the Atomic Energy Research Establishment. In January 1988 Smith's mangled body was found halfway down a cliff in Cornwall. Verdict: Suicide.
19. ASPHYXIATION--Trevor Knight, 52, computer engineer, Marconi Space and Defense Systems. In March 1988 Knight was found dead in his car, asphyxiated by fume from a hose attached to the tail pipe. The death was ruled a suicide.
20. ELECTROCUTION--John Ferry, 60, assistant marketing director for Marconi. In August 1988 Ferry was found dead in a company-owned apartment, the stripped leads of an electrical cord in his mouth. Foul play has not been ruled out.
21. ELECTROCUTION--Alistair Beckham, 50, software engineer, Plessey. In August 1988 Beckham's lifeless body was found in the garden shed behind his house. Bare wires, which ran to a live main, were wrapped around his chest. No suicide note was found, and police have not ruled out foul play.
22. ASPHYXIATION--Andrew Hall, 33, engineering manager, British Aero- space. In September 1988 Hall was found dead in his car, asphyxiated by fumes from a hose that was attached to the tail pipe. Friends said he was well liked, had everything to live for. Verdict: Suicide.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:55 PM
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14. maybe I can't count or something...but
it sure looks to me like #1, 2, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, at least, aren't even listed as suicides. So really, you have 14 suicides, not 22. get your numbers right, else you'll sound like a kook.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 01:07 PM
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18. am merely providing links
& copied that one down...not my claim but it does make a (thinking) person curious.

OK ..so if its only 14 suicides...and 8 questionable....that seems ok to you? and you don't wonder about the rest.....

"sound like a kook" ...oh, how clever......or you could put your koolaid cup down and start questioning.....
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:56 PM
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15. 310 scientists dead since 2003?
*More than 310 Iraqi scientists are thought to have perished at the hands of Israeli secret agents in Iraq since fall of Baghdad to US troops in April 2003.

This link is for scientists dead since 2001....
http://www.global-elite.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=390



Granted its tough to prove, but even if its half this number..or a third this number...isn't anyone concerned as to WHY?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 02:18 PM
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19. it's a war zone. you may have noticed
a hell of a lot more than 310 Iraqis have been killed in Baghdad in the last 2 years.

And if Iraq really was making Nuclear Weapons, isn't it in Israel's best interest to eliminate the scientists making those bombs?

On the flip side, the US has a vested interest in eliminating the people who can contest the arguement that Iraq was developing WMD.

That's "why"

as for some of this data, I don't understand why a 64 year old man dying of a stroke is 'suspicious' or the Swissair plane crash?

and one of these people died in the Chechnyan terrosist raid on the theatre in Moscow. Now the Chechnyans and the Israelis are on the same side?

Thomas Gold was 84. An 84 year old man dying of heart failure? suspicious, no doubt.

Paul Norman crashed his private plane. Have you seen the mortality statistics for private plane pilots? not good. The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch and the wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at Farnborough. ALL private plane accidents are investigated by the AAIB, it's like the NTSB in the US. And then they remove the wreckage and reconstruct it somewhere else to learn what happened.

Robert Leslie Burghoff was killed in a hit and run in Texas. google "hit and run fatality texas" and you get 51,000 hits. happens all the time.

I could go on, I suppose. But simply taking a bunch of data that may, or may not, be linked and saying that it's suspicious does not hold water. I bet I can find this many deaths, under roughly the same circumstances, among accountants, jockeys, lawyers, engineers and elvis impersonators. Is Lisa Marie killing them off one by one?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:44 PM
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12. some links & updates
Sounds to me that there are some curious & concerned people out there.....I personally find it rather curios....makes me want to look a bit deeper....
DR

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2725

January 7, 2005: Korean Jeong H. Im, retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri - Columbia and primarily a protein chemist, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car on the third level of the Maryland Avenue Garage. MUPD with the assistance of the Columbia Police Department and Columbia Fire Department are conducting a death investigation of the incident. A person of interest described as a male 6’ – 6’2” wearing some type of mask possible a painters mask or drywall type mask was seen in the area of the Maryland Avenue Garage.

*More than 310 Iraqi scientists are thought to have perished at the hands of Israeli secret agents in Iraq since fall of Baghdad to US troops in April 2003.
http://www.global-elite.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=390

Last updated 30/01/2005

More links:
http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/dead.scientists.chron.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deadbiologists.html
http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/sdi-deaths.html

This looks like the link for the OP:
http://www.rense.com/general62/list.htm
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 12:56 PM
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16. My dad and step-mom mentioned this to me yesterday
Said there's been one/week on average, or so.


Very interesting.


Angels and Demons anyone?
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 01:04 PM
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17. 1 a week??
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 01:09 PM by WoodrowFan
the list starts in 1982.

Besides, the American Society of Microbiolgists has over 42,000 members. (http://a-s.clayton.edu/science/societies.htm) How hard can it be to find 20-40 deaths over a period of well over a decade of people who were killed in robberies, in car accidents, or heart attacks, or who killed themselves?? Sheesh
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 02:22 PM
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20. right, and in some professions those numbers are spiked
for instance these people are more likely to travel (to conferences and the like) than auto mechanics. so they are more likely to die in plane crashes.

they also are mostly middle-upper middle class, the best targets for home invasion robberies.

and, given that many of them worked on government contracts (half the scientists in this country work for the government in some way or another through grants and the like) some of them are liable to have security clearances (I live in DC, everyone has a clearance of some sort) and treatment for depression can get that clearance suspended, so depressed people are less likely to get help, therefore more likely to kill themselves.

Commercial pilots have a high suicide rate, since treatment for depression (even seeing a shrink) gets your license, and thus your job, pulled.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:17 AM
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21. Use a little imagination.
Sure, it's unlikely every single one on that list was foul play.

But how many could be? One? Two? A dozen? Two dozen? Do you KNOW?

Let's say someone becomes inconvenient alive.

You, hypothetically being a bad person, decide they should die.

You hire someone to do the deed.

What's the best way?

Outright murder? Not necessarily. Then, there might be an investigation, and your hit man might get caught. Might even tell who put him up to it -- not good.

An accident, or faux heart attack, or involuntary suicide would be more advantageous, because then there is no search for the murderer.

This was posted last year by DU's Minstrel Boy (unfortunately, the link from gwu appears, um, dead):

Rigorous Intuition
BLOG (of Minstrel Boy)
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/
Thursday, August 19, 2004


Here's a clue, from the CIA's declassified assassination manual <http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html>:

Accidents:

For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.

The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stair wells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. Bridge falls into water are not reliable. In simple cases a private meeting with the subject may be arranged at a properly-cased location. The act may be executed by sudden, vigorous of the ankles, tipping the subject over the edge. If the assassin immediately sets up an outcry, playing the "horrified witness", no alibi or surreptitious withdrawal is necessary. In chase cases it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him. Care is required to insure that no wound or condition not attributable to the fall is discernible after death.


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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:52 AM
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22. Very interesting list...I was aware of the ones who have died since 911...
...but adding the rest is really starting to paint a very ugly picture.
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:55 AM
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24. I'll post my usual response to this list...
...most of the biology-related deaths on the list aren't "microbiologists" or "infectious disease experts", and are drawn from a number of biology-related disciplines. You could draw up a similar list for engineers, lawyers, or teachers.

One major misrepresentation:
Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set, 44 --Expertise: animal diseases facility of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization had just come to fame for discovering a virulent strain of mousepox, which could be modified to affect smallpox. --Circumstance of Death: died at work in Geelong, Australia, in a laboratory accident. He entered an airlocked storage lab and died from exposure to nitrogen.
The implication here is that Van Set's death is related to the mousepox research. However, Van Set died in a CISRO research institute in Geelong. The mousepox virus work was done in a CISRO institute in Canberra - they are ~300 kilometers apart, so there is no reason to link the two.

-SM
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