Scalia: "Turn away if the 10 Commandments are such a 'big deal' to you"

[Bluebear]

...Nevertheless, the Supreme Court's use of Commandments imagery was a regular theme. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg pointed to the frieze on the south wall of the courtroom, which depicts Moses with eight other ancient lawgivers. The tablets of Moses are tilted so only the second five Commandments, all secular rules, such as ''Thou shalt not kill," are visible. Religious rules, such as ''Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain," are hidden.

Ginsberg asked whether an inscription of the secular rules without the tablets would be acceptable on government property. Chemerinsky said they would be since those rules are also found in Texas statutes. That led Justice Antonin Scalia to interrupt with a scoff: ''Who are you kidding? Everyone knows these come from the Ten Commandments."

Scalia, a devout Catholic, also took issue with the argument by Attorney General Greg Abbott of Texas that the display from that state serves a secular function. Scalia denounced the idea of ''watering down" the religious message of the Ten Commandments, which he said was ''government derives its authority from God," and suggested that it would be a ''Pyrrhic victory" if Texas won on those grounds.

Atheists should ''turn your eyes away if it's such a big deal to you," he added.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/03/03/justices_weigh_commandments_case?pg=2

[Guaranteed]

1. If it's such a big deal to YOU, why don't you just tatoo it on your ass

backwards and then go find a mirror when you need a refresher, Scalia?

By the way, you fucking idiot, the government derives its authority from the PEOPLE. First three words of the Constitution.

Jesus. Bone up.

[NC_Nurse]

3. BWAAAHAHAHAHA!

Well said!

If that's what he thinks atheists should do with religious symbols, why do they not recommend the same to people who are freaked out about what's on TV? Porn? Boobs? Just turn your eyes way, people! :D

[mermaid]

12. How About Taking The Curtain Away From Lady Liberty Then, Fuckface??

if Lady Liberty's breast offends you, what do YOU just turn YOUR eyes away, asshole?

[FuzzyDicePHL]

32. I applaud your logic, NC_Nurse

That couldn't be any more right-on.

[jdj]

47. not to mention burning flags.

and PDA's by gays.

[Kber]

96. Thanks!

I like your logic!

[Bluebear]

4. Theocracy here we come

[otohara]

53. LOL - Condi/Charlie Brown

i just had to steal it for my e-mail sig.

[Bluebear]

94. Yours with my compliments

[fujiyama]

38. LOL

Well said.

[Placebo]

2. I cannot believe someone on the SUPREME COURT...

could be so nonchalant about an issue with such deep ramifications. :grr:

[hector459]

61. Same thing I say about pornography. Turn away if it offends you!!

I hope Scalia remembers that.

[CornField]

5. ''government derives its authority from God" -- Dominionism anyone?

That's a page right out of their book... and goes directly to the Constitution Restoration Act they are attempting to pass.

[Pushed To The Left]

64. Speaking of the Constitution Restoration Act...

http://www.petitiononline.com/hr3799/petition.html

That's the link to the petition against the Constitution Restoration Act. I'm surprised that it only has 34 signatures!

[leftofthedial]

6. kind of like the way the bible thumpers were willing

to just turn their eyes away from Janet Jackson's breast instead of launching a "morality" inquisition?

[mermaid]

7. Oh, Man, Scalia Just Needs To FUCK OFF!!!

what a fucking asshole!

[elehhhhna]

97. WHY DON'T WE JUST PLUCK OUR FRIKKIN EYES OUT, SCALASSHOLE???

[OldLeftieLawyer]

8. If gay marriage offends you so much,

don't marry one, Fatass.

[GiovanniC]

14. And if Abortions Offend You, Don't Get One

[shoelace414]

9. I heard on franken that Thomas said

the first admendment says "congress shall make no law"

so states can, if they want, make a offical religion or do whatever they want.

[Walt Starr]

13. Yeah, well Thomas forgot about the 14th amendment

Can somebody tell me why we have Supreme court Justices who have never read the constitution?

[shoelace414]

15. Franken's response

"That's why he shouldn't even be there"

[atre]

70. Ain't that the truth?

In the Hamdi v. Bush case, which held that the Executive Branch couldn't strip an American citizen of all constitutional rights without judicial supervision, Thomas was the SOLE DISSENTER. The man is incompetent. He doesn't deserve to be on the bench.

[vonSchloegel]

71. Actually,

the Fourteenth Amendment only guarantees the rights of every US citizen, regardless of the State he resides. It prohibits State legislatures from infringing on those rights. It does not prohibit the States from establishing a religion, provided citizens of that State are free to worship any religion of their choosing.

[Guaranteed]

23. The states have to abide by the Bill of Rights.

They don't get an exception.

[shoelace414]

34. they have to abide

but they aren't congress.

I'd really like to see where he said this, this is a supreme court justice. good grief!

[Guaranteed]

36. They each have a congress, though, while

they may go by another name.

[Walt Starr]

37. The fourteenth amendment extended the protection of rights

from the federal government to all levels of government. A first year law student knows this. Hell, a fourth grade Civics student should know this!

[mcscajun]

42. I have to believe Civics doesn't get taught anymore in fourth grade,

or any other elementary school grade, from what we keep hearing out there.

[Mojambo]

10. FUCK YOU Scalia.

I turn away from the Ten Commandments just fine.

My worry is that the Court will be turned away from ME.

What smug asshole!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. And about Janet Jackson's tittie?

[mim]

77. Yes, about that,

Look away from it if you don't like it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Ah, yes. Words of wisdom

from our next Chief Justice.

Should I shoot myself now, or later?

[Mojambo]

21. I'm betting on Kennedy for the next C.J n/t

[Solon]

17. The messed up part is that the frieze he is referring to...

does not just have Moses on it, all the great Law Givers of history have a space in the Supreme Court. From Hammurabi, to Solon, to Muhammad, all have a space in the Supreme Court in various forms. His argument is stupid.

[ET Awful]

20. hehehe, great minds think alike, see my post below. n/t

[Bridget Burke]

25. Yes! The Beaux Arts style of architecture is loaded with ....

ornament & symbolism.

The controversial monuments are ugly pieces of cement, erected within the last few years to show which God must be obeyed.

[ET Awful]

18. It's my understanding that one of the other figures on that frieze is

Muhamed. Yup, that Muhamed. So tell us Scalia, using that logic, is displaying the tenets of sharia law on courthouse acceptable to you as well?

[Stephanie]

19. Scalia belongs to the Catholic cult of self-flagellation, Opus Dei >

As a cult member, Scalia should really recuse himself on an issue like this.

___________________

http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney01172004.html

January 17 / 18, 2004
Scalia and Opus Dei
Radicals on the High Court

By MIKE WHITNEY

"After I joined they gave me a barbed wire chain to wear on my leg for two hours a day and a whip to hit my buttocks with."

Sharon Clasen, former member of Opus Dei

"Blessed be pain. Loved be pain. Glorified be pain"

Josemarie Escriva, Founder, Opus Dei

=======

Whether or not an alleged member of Opus Dei, like Justice Antonin Scalia, enjoys a touch of the lash on his prodigious derriere from time to time, is certainly no business of ours. However, the affiliation of a Justice on the highest court in the land to an organization that, for all appearances, is nothing more than a right-wing cult should arouse not only suspicion, but an investigation.

Opus Dei is a clandestine Catholic organization based in Chicago, Ill. In size, it is insignificant, a mere 85,000 members (only 3,000 members in the US) compared to the one billion Catholics worldwide. But, its membership boasts of some of the most powerful and wealthy people in the country. The group catapulted to national attention when spymaster, Robert Hanson, was arrested and convicted in what turned out to be the greatest act of treachery in the history of the FBI. Hanson's arrest drew immediate and unwelcome notoriety to the secretive group.

* * * *

Grossman goes on to add, "Critics are put off because, as part of their devotional regimen, some Opus Dei members inflict pain on themselves that seems to border on masochism. Supporters respond that mortification of the flesh is an ancient and honorable Christian practice that puts them spiritually in touch with the great saints of the past."

One of the former members, Sharon Clasen remembers, "After I joined they gave me a barbed-wire chain to wear on my leg for two hours a day and a whip to hit my buttocks with." (Again, reported in the Ron Grossman article)

We can only wonder what the Senate hearings might have been like if they suspected that Scalia's attitudes towards self-inflicted punishment might be dramatically out of the mainstream? It certainly may have called his sense of judgment into question. <more>

___________________

[AzDar]

55. And if I may quote Ned Flanders.."pain is the cleanser, pain is the

cleanser." LOL

[Jacobin]

22. OOOoh, I LOVE to collect the Random Rantings of Scalia!!

I even have one in my sig line!!!!

[LeahD]

83. Feel like sharing some of them? n/t

[davidinalameda]

24. so are we supposed to be keeping the Sabbath

and if so, which one

and I'm a polytheist--am I any less of an American than monotheists?

at least I'll have a valid excuse when I seek asylum in Canada

[AllegroRondo]

26. show up naked in his courtroom

he can turn his eyes away if it offends him

[CatBoreal]

27. "...government derives its authority from God..."???

What next? Is Scalia going to start invoking the Divine Right of Kings??

I'm so glad I live in this country and not yours. Sorry gang, it looks like you're going to be in for a rough, rough ride.

[AllegroRondo]

29. Didn't he read the Delcaration of Independance?

Government derives its authority from the will of the governed.

This is why we faught the war for independance from England, who claimed their king ruled by divine right.

[Yupster]

89. I think the Civil War

ended the "will of the governed," argument for good.

[Guaranteed]

30. Don't worry about it. We're gonna fuck 'em up good.

We've seen this before.

[CornField]

40. This is the primary thrust/goal of the Dominionists

In the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004 the following text will be added to Sec. 1260 of Title 28, Chapter 81 of the U.S. Code:

"Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element’s or officer’s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government."

The judiciary is "an element" of the federal, state and local governments. The passage of this bill could allow any judge to institute biblical punishments without being subject to review by the Supreme Court or the federal court system.

For more information about Dominionism, head over to Katherine Yurica's site and read "The Despoiling of America": http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

[Paranoid_Portlander]

102. The Divine Right of Kings.

If I remember correctly, Scalia has already commented favorably on this subject, but without being too explicit. Sorry, I don't remember the details. I definitely remember Ashcroft stating in 2000 "I (we) have no other king except Jesus", at BJ University (Bob Jones).

[Webster Green]

28. Right, just like Scalia does with the Constitution.....

Turn away, pretend it doesn't exist.

Fuck the Supreme W. Court anyway!

[atreides1]

31. "government derives its authority from God"

I believe Charles I, had this same opinion, unfortunately for him, Cromwell and the English Parliment didn't agree.

[JDPriestly]

33. Scalia has forgotten

Government of the people, by the people and for the people, not of God, by God and for God. That is the American way.

I agree with O'Connor, however, that historical monuments should not be destroyed simply because they separation clause. The Judeo-Christian religion is a part of our heritage, and even most atheists ascribe to the humanistic, yes humanistic, values of that heritage. Eric Auerbach wrote a wonderful book entitled "Mimesis," in which he explained how Abraham's decision not to sacrifice his son and his direct communication with God in that story contrasted with the previous religions and was a turn toward humanism. To destroy the monuments of the past would be a Taliban-like gesture. At the same time, we should not be building new public monuments featuring the first Commandments, which as the Court points out, endorse particular religions.

There is also the problem about what text of the Ten Commandments would be adopted if a monument were set up. I believe there are two versions in the Bible. The Catholics have their own version, and then, of course, there are different English translations. Which one should government endorse? Doesn't that depend on the specific religious sect of the person making the decision? If so, how can anyone argue that a monument of the words of the Ten Commandments does not endorse a religion, and what's worse, does not endorse a specific sect?

If the Supreme Court allows new monuments to be erected, they will be setting off a series of lawsuits defining just what the Ten Commandments are, which text should be used, etc. What a nightmare. The constitutional provision requiring separation of church and state prevents a lot of unnecessary controversy, arguments and lawsuits. It is practical as well as morally right and should be interpreted so as to avoid discord among religions.

[KansDem]

35. Hey, Tony...!

Civilization before Greece and Rome by H W F Skaggs.

Read it and see what Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian, Palestinian, Sumerian, Medean/Persian, Hittite and Hurrian, and Indus Valley cultures had to say about murder, theft, lying, etc.

Don't turn your eyes away from research into what other cultures, besides Judeo/Christian, have to offer civilization.

[Disturbed]

41. If the Ten Commandments can be displayed..

on public property then so can any other displays.

The 1st Commandment is discriminating and negates other gods. Scalia is a Catholic Fascist and should have recused himself as he should have in the Cheney Energy report case. He is a disgrace to the SC.

[Bluebear]

57. Indeed

[LynnTheDem]

39. Dear Scaliaban;

Fuck off.

[Ian David]

43. How about if we just post the commandments in Hebrew?

[cajones_II]

50. I think that would be cool!

there's three interpretations of the ten commandments that I am aware of.

[Interrobang]

56. Heh, yeah, I was going to ask "Which set?"

Apparently the versions are fairly different, or that's what my Hebrew professor, Rabbi Wittstein, says... :D

[mim]

79. Well, if they're in the original Hebrew

you can post it as a continuous text and not worry about the enumeration. But if you post it from Exodus 20 you're siding with the Protestants, Jews, and Lutherans; if you post it from Deuteronomy 5 you're siding with the Roman Catholics (I don't know about the Eastern Orthodox).

[mim]

80. Well, how about "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor"?

Tell that to the Swift Vets against the Truth.

[lonestarnot]

69. Brilliant suggestion there IanBD1 n/t

[cajones_II]

44. why is it the fundie Christians who are pushing the 10 Commandments?

I guess the "Beatitudes" , from Jesus' sermon on the Mount, aren't appropriate as well? I guess it's because that it is a pretty "liberal" message? But usually if you ask, the first thing a fundie will tell you is that "Jesus dying means the old testament and Mosaic law no longer applies"

Yet, it is the Mosaic Law they want to put up there. I suggest that some hip Dem Christians insist that they put the "Beatitudes"** up also anywhere they display the 10 commandments since they possess most of what the Democratic party claims as "core values" like "blessed are the peacemakers" and such.

If they refuse, take them to court using the same laws the Supreme Court is now reviewing, saying they are prejudiced against Christians unless they do.

Beat these mofos at their own game. The worst case scenario is we draw attention to how similar the preachings of Jesus Christ ,whom they claim to follow and revere, are to those of the Democrats. No offense to pagans,atheists, or any other creed. This is pretty good philosophy, whether you believe in the divinity of Jesus or not.

**FYI, The Beatitudes: ( Matthew 5:1-11 )

Blessed are the poor in spirit, theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth

Blessed are they that thirst and hunger for righteousness for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy

Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God

Blessed are those persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you and persecute you ,and say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake.

BTW-note there's not a lot of "You're going to HELL" in this sermon...

[johnaries]

65. Ah, the Beatitudes! You're right, we need to keep slapping them in the

face with Jesus' REAL teachings!

I left "Christianity" when I was a teenager, mainly because I couldn't handle the "only Christians go to heaven" thing. I stated following my own "spiritual compass", and for a long time called myself an Agnostic just because I couldn't find any other "label" to call myself.

But, the highest compliment I ever received, was when a Christian friend of mine told me she had a serious conversation about "what it meant to be Christian, and who do you know that is Truly the most Christ-Like". She named me, a Self-Proclaimed Agnostic! as being the most Christ-like person she knew!

Since then, I have found Taoism to be very inspirational, and I felt I have grown from studying it. The strange thing is, Taoism has so many things in common with Jesus' real teachings, especially the Beatitudes. In fact, I feel I understand Jesus' messages better now that I can look at them from a Taoist perspective. So many things that didn't make sense to me before, now make perfect sense!

EDIT: spell check is a wonderful thing! Especially after a coupla rum and cokes!

When, oh WHEN will we start to look at the similarities of personal beliefs, rather than the differences?

[blogslut]

93. In Addition...

Why not let others know about the SIX COMMANDMENTS, edited by Jesus?

Matthew 19:17-19:21

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none good but one, , God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.

That last part pisses off the fundies :)

[Warren DeMontague]

45. Can we apply that logic to Gay Marriages? Porn?

How about abortion, assisted suicide, medical marijuana and OTC sales of the morning after pill?

If they bug you so damn much, don't pay attention.

[Iris]

46. My thoughts exactly. n/t

[JNelson6563]

48. Is it just me or is it time for a good old fashioned

stoning?

[DearAbby]

49. Atheists should ''turn your eyes away if it's such a big deal to you," ???

I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, in your eyes, it is perfectly fine to violate my rights? to act that my feelings are of no issue. I should just simple turn away?


Kiss my wrinkled cellulite infested ass!

[Trish1168]

51. Same can be said of Janet Jackson's Boob.

Just a thought.:headbang:

[MelissaB]

54. Heck yeah, and I want to see

a man part next. Let's see him turn his head to that.

That asshole belongs here in my home state. He'd fit right in.

[otohara]

52. self delete

duh....

[Fescue4u]

58. Well he's got a point

Just like others "offensive" things. If you don't like, just ignore it.

[Bluebear]

59. I'm glad you approve....

I prefer separation of church and stae. Just one of my things I guess.

[Fescue4u]

74. who says I approve?

I just said he has a point.

I tend to ignore things that annoy me.

[Guaranteed]

66. It's not the offensiveness, it's the government endorsement.

I can sit there and look at the Ten Commandments all day. But the fact that they're trying to put it up in our courtrooms is a serious breach of the separation between church and state.

[Fescue4u]

73. Yes, but no more so..

and in fact much less so than "in god we trust" on our money.

I guess since Im not part of the Christian hate gang this just doesnt get me up in arms...either way in fact.

[Guaranteed]

82. No, in fact it's much moreso than "In God We Trust."

That trivial phrase on our money that nobody even notices means nothing.

But for judges to put the Ten Commandments up in their courtrooms as if their loyalty and decision-making abilities lie with their religion rather than with our judicial system and the laws that our representatives make is absolutely disgusting.

[Fescue4u]

86. I guess I disagree

I don't spend much time in court so I'd never really notice any decorations in a courtroom.

Unless suddenly atheism is a requirement for judgeship, judges will also have a religion that influences their decision making.

I suppose we can take down the decorations and pretend it doesnt exist if that makes people feel better, but it doesnt really change anything.

[Guaranteed]

88. Judges have the right to adjudicate within their descretion,

but they don't get to say that God told them to judge that way, and not our justice system. Their decisions are not endorsed by God, and neither is the court system. Our laws are perfectly legitimate- in fact, much MORE legitimate- based on political theory, as opposed to burning bushes and goat's blood. To think that we ought to allow religion into the system is ridiculous. And, it IS totally inappropriate for a judge to on the one hand pledge allegiance to his country, and work as a judge to protect the public, but to then on the other hand go around saying his loyalties are really to God.

If they want to preach the word, they should join a church. Keep religion where it belongs- OUT of our courts.

Oh yeah- like I said before, they don't get to say that the laws of the United States support one God over another, either.

[Fescue4u]

90. of course.

And their descretion comes from the whole of their experience.

Their experience comes from the satisfaction of seeing bad guys put away, and victims see justice. Their experience comes from having their favorite toy stolen as a boy from the classroom bully. It comes from law school. It comes from nightmares and pleasant dreams. And sometimes it comes from lesson learned in Sunday school as a boy, or a man or women.


I wouldnt expect athiest to understand..I find them pretty closed minded for the most part as they limit the Universe to that of their imagination.. But folks who are religious find thats it is part of their being. Its just that simple. Understand that Im not really a religous person, but Im hardly an athiest either!

As I said.

We can pretend that a judges belief system does not exist if that makes some people feel better. And feeling better is important for some people.

I know you would like me to be really upset about this, but Im not. Im just not part of the Christian haters club so I really cant appreciate their viewpoint.

[Guaranteed]

91. I believe in God. And I'm not a Christian hater.

Course, someone such as yourself would make the assumption that I am. Funny- countless times on this board people have accused me of being a fundie. Pretty hilarious. I guess they just don't know me that well.

You see, while I might believe in God, I'm wise enough to know that not everyone believes in the same God as I do. In fact, the second you start allowing governments to endorse religion is the second that YOUR religion gets destroyed by that government. That is why I, while maintaining my non-Christian faith, am also a VERY strong advocate for the separation of church and state (besides the fact that that is what our founding fathers had in mind when they created our country). That separation is there to protect religion even more than the government.

Further, while a judge's life experiences, and even their religion, may affect their decision making, that's not what he gets to justify his decisions with. If he wants to judge cases based on the laws of the United States, then that's what he'd damned well better do- make use of the LAW.

Otherwise, again, he's in the wrong profession.

Speaking of clubs, here's a really good one that just believes in the good ole US of A and the Constitution- no Christian hating:

www.aclu.org

Imagine an organization that stands up for religious freedom AND secular government at the same time. How on Earth do they DO that?

[Fescue4u]

92. Well 20 lines of text

Doesnt really enable us to know each other that well :)

I'm just a little fatigued at all the Christian bashing around here. Im hardly a fundie but it has started to really get on my nerves. If I lumped you in with that group then I appologize.

I don't think we really disagree. I just think we are coming at it from different angles.

I DO believe that a judge should judge based on the law.

Im just saying that those that do, well good for them. And those that do bring religion into their judgement..well I suspect that they really don't need a stone tablet to look at for reference.

IN the end, you have to judge a justice based on their record and writings. I honestly don't believe that a few objects in the courtroom have that significant of an effect. No more than say the money in their pocket with that "under god" writing on it.

[Bridget Burke]

98. There are other Amendments besides the Second.

At least, to some of us.

[Fescue4u]

101. Yes, isnt it wonderful

And you get a gold star!

[More Than A Feeling]

60. I wonder if Scalia alienates the other justices with his zaniness? n/t

[usregimechange]

62. Turn away Scalia from the large Darwin walking fish at city hall!

[kohodog]

63. Can we cover it with a blanket?

Like Ashcroft and lady Justice? (when he couldn't possibly hold a news conference in the Supreme Court building in front of a statue that had uncovered breasts), Or Poewell covering the Guernica before his speech to the UN .

Maybe he should suggest that they could hang the 10 commandments so long as they are covered.

Zappa said it all on Crossfire in 1986:

http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2658805&bw=200

(hope the link works for those of you who haven't seen this classic)

[Lindacooks]

67. Okay, seriously, we need to start promoting Hindu and Muslim

tenets on public property. That's the best way to show up the right wingnuts' hypocrisy.

Can anybody come up with something in those religions that's kind of like the ten commandments?

[Fescue4u]

87. lol

I wonder how stone tablets that say "Kill the Infidel" will go over on the freepers.

I like your thinking!

[johnaries]

68. speaking of "activist judges"....

I always thought that was a ridiculous statement. The judges just rule on whether law is being followed, or not. If you don't like the ruling, then you have to change the law.

Well, unless you "stack the court".... which basically Bush has admitted that he wants to do....

[Straight Shooter]

72. There was a time in my life when I respected the U.S. Supreme Court.

Those days are gone. Tony the "Fixer."

[Rex]

75. If thou shall not kill is such a big deal then

why don't you tell Bush to stop killing our troops in Iraq and bring them home! What about the thousands we killed in Iraq already? Oh wait, I'm not a Christian so my views don't count.

What does it take to legally remove these religious freaks from the bench?

[mim]

81. Well, I am a Christian

OTOH maybe I'm not a Christian by their standards :eyes:

[opiate69]

76. How did this fucktard get through law school??

''Who are you kidding? Everyone knows these come from the Ten Commandments."


So, there were no societies pre-dating Moses' alleged trip to the mountain which considered murder, stealing, etc illegal? Please, Gawd.. save me from your followers.

[Technowitch]

78. What if I want to post a HUGE Pentagram in the courthouse?

I mean, it's a symbol of the four 'elements', plus 'spirit' -- who could object to that? All things in balance, and a circle around it to indicate that all are one.

It isn't even disrespectful to the Christian folk!

I won't object to those silly Old Testament 'commandments' (of which there are several competing versions), if I can post my symbol on Gov't property, too.

And the Muslims, and the Buddhists, and the Shinto, and the Atheists, and all the Native American faiths... etc.

[porphyrian]

84. Scalia is a fundamentalist piece of shit.

I hate the regressive literalist fuck.

[BikeWriter]

85. "Turn away if the Koran, Torah, and Satanic Verses...

...are such a 'big deal' to you"

[Kber]

95. "Everyone knows these come from the Ten Commandments"

So Buddhists, Hindus, etc have no community laws or Prohibitions against murder or theft? That's absurd logic!

[TOOLZ]

99. can't wait till someone quotes this in a legal argument

"To quote Justice Scalia, in Religious Self Righteous Zealots vs. Secular Sensibility, why don't you turn your eyes away from it if it bothers you so much?"

PLEASE somebody use that in a legal argument.

[Bluebear]

100. It does sound like an argument a child would make, doesn't it?

[GOPBasher]

103. Ask them if they'd mind having the Buddhist 8-fold path posted in public.

I wonder what they'd say.