Smackdown delivered to Condi Rice

[whosinpower]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/3/10423/16639

This is a diary from Dailykos. It has an article written by former Foreign Minister Lloyd Axworthy or an open letter to Condi Rice. Wow. You must head over and read the whole thing. Makes me proud to be Canadian. Thank you Lloyd for pointing out the obvious.

snip - Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire.

If you want to have us consider your proposals and positions, present them in a proper way, through serious discussion across the table in our cabinet room, as your previous president did when he visited Ottawa. And don't embarrass our prime minister by lobbing a verbal missile at him while he sits on a public stage, with no chance to respond.

[Bluebear]

1. Whooooooooooooooooa

"Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington."

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yippie!

Someone finally says it!!! Bush is a control freak. Just look at his "campaign rally's" and what his "staff" tells him.

[BigBearJohn]

36. OMG! Your lucy cartoon says it all. YOU PEGGED IT!

I always tried to think of who Condi's hairdo reminded
me of.... oh my God. it IS lucy..... still laughing.
YOU PEGGED IT.

[Hissyspit]

47. She needs to get a picture where Charlie Brown is FROWNING, though...

not smiling. Really hilarious, though.

[Bluebear]

48. Cheer BBJ!

:toast:

[Ellen Forradalom]

57. Another Lucy 'toon

[Canadian Socialist]

43. I know Lloyd Axworthy

as he was my MP when I lived in Winnipeg. As well, I'm an alumni of the University of Winnipeg. Great liberal arts school! I have so much respect for this man; he's always been one of my heroes.

[MountainLaurel]

76. I want to kiss this man

It's so refreshing to hear someone calling a spade a spade when it comes to the Bush junta.

However, this guy should probably stay away from small planes for a while. :scared:

[Richard Steele]

2. SUH-LAPPP!

What a beautiful, well-written letter!

Nice to see that some REAL representatives still exist. Too bad they are a dying breed in this country.

[Cha]

50. I bookmarked this ..to

come back and read time and again when I want to feel the sanity in the world!

EDIT~To say..Bitch SUH-LAPPP!

[DistressedAmerican]

3. Hey, That's Just Old Northamerica Talking!

[Trailrider1951]

4. O Canada!

:loveya:

[Willy Lee]

5. Beautiful. I love Canada! nt

[Daphne08]

6. Wow!

What a breath of fresh air!

[FuzzyDicePHL]

7. Daaag!

Her mama shoulda felt that

[Kazak]

8. Bravo!

Nice.

[understandinglife]

9. Now that IS Leadership -- and dig these quotes:

I know it seems improbable to your divinely guided master in the White House that mere mortals might disagree with participating in a missile-defence system that has failed in its last three tests, even though the tests themselves were carefully rigged to show results.

But, gosh, we folks above the 49th parallel are somewhat cautious types who can't quite see laying down billions of dollars in a three-dud poker game.

BE THE BU$H OPPOSITION;24/7

[Delphinus]

21. Lovely quotes.

A breath of fresh air. Aahh ...

[fromBrooklyn]

10. here here

[FlyByNight]

12. "...Politicians should be subject to a few checks...

and balances, an idea your country once espoused before the days of empire."

Beautiful.

:thumbsup:

[ClayZ]

13. C A N A D A YAY! C A N A D A

Whoo hooo, tell it like it is! Now there is a thinking man!

I LOVE THAT LETTER! :loveya:

I intend to write to this person and thank him!

Lloyd Axworthy
The University of Winnipeg
515 Portage Ave
Winnipeg, MB
R3B 2E9


Or write an email here:

http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/index/future-about-contact


:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Cha]

52. Thank you!

To the letter! :toast: :loveya:

[Canadian Socialist]

62. If you write to Lloyd

make sure you mention "the rock". It's a large boulder stuck in front of the University that every year people try to climb. <shrug> It was a tradition. When I went there, (back in the 70's), usually the women's team won because they would work together. Take that any way you want to <g>.

[medeak]

14. "highly controlled, pre-selected audience"

"Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire."

Whoo hoo!

Thanks for this!

[bvar22]

15. WooooHoooo!!!!

Do go to the link and read the rest of the letter.

I pray that it will be picked up by some of our Media (other than the bloggers).

[hvn_nbr_2]

18. Speaking of pipe dreams

I pray that it will be picked up by some of our Media

They'll probably pick this up just as soon as they finish reporting election irregularities, Gannon, the missing $8B, DeLay's corruption, hypocrisy of radical rightwing clerics, ...

[BurtWorm]

16. Can you say things like that in North America?

:bounce:

[Cha]

53. We should make sure

Dean sees it!

He'd love it, too!

[CHIMO]

17. Real Smooth

Missile Counter-Attack

Now, I understand that there may have been some miscalculations in Washington based on faulty advice from your resident governor of the "northern territories," Ambassador Cellucci. But you should know by now that he hasn't really won the hearts and minds of most Canadians through his attempts to browbeat and command our allegiance to U.S. policies.

Sadly, Mr. Cellucci has been far too closeted with exclusive groups of 'experts' from Calgary think-tanks and neo-con lobbyists at cross-border conferences to remotely grasp a cross-section of Canadian attitudes (nor American ones, for that matter).

I invite you to expand the narrow perspective that seems to inform your opinions of Canada by ranging far wider in your reach of contacts and discussions. You would find that what is rising in Canada is not so much anti-Americanism, as claimed by your and our right-wing commentators, but fundamental disagreements with certain policies of your government. You would see that rather than just reacting to events by drawing on old conventional wisdoms, many Canadians are trying to think our way through to some ideas that can be helpful in building a more secure world.

These Canadians believe that security can be achieved through well-modulated efforts to protect the rights of people, not just nation-states.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/3/10423/16639

[CatBoreal]

19. Lloyd Rules...

Thanks for posting. It's now on my blog. I hope we see more people with influence in places like Canada and Europe and the rest of the world who are willing to stand up and be counted.

[indepat]

20. Almost like saying "Condi, go take a flying f**k at yourself"

[Cha]

54. Only ..in the most sincere, intelllectual, articulate..

CAnadian Way!! :bounce:

[jhain]

22. Oh, YES!! n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

23. Another reason to admire Canada and Canadians!!!

[Spazito]

24. Thank you for posting this!

Lloyd Axworthy has always had my respect yet it has grown tremendously, if possible, after reading his letter. I have sent him my thanks and hope other will as well. I have no doubt he will be sent nasty, scathing garbage from the rightwingers as soon as they read it.

[Tsiyu]

25. A kick for Condasleeza

Perhaps she's lurking today. She has nothing else important to do...


:kick:

[Tsiyu]

26. A kick for Condasleeza

Perhaps she's lurking today. She has nothing else important to do...


:kick:

[oasis]

27. It's good to read straight talk from someone who knows the game. (eom)

[Auntie Bush]

28. Here's to condi... A good swift kick in the face.

:kick:

[AnnInLa]

29. kick

[LibertyorDeath]

30. B R A V O !! Mr Axworthy

One of the Brightest minds in Canadian politics past or present.

Many more Respected people in the public eye need to speak the unvarnished truth like this about **ush & his mis-administration until the sound of all their combined voices is deafening.

[Cha]

55. Jon Stewart did Not show that

picture on his Daily Show!??! :P

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

75. Oh, yes he did.

That episode focused on how bloggers manage to scoop the MSM (though it's really not so much better access to information as willingness to report it), particularly with regards to Gannon/Guckert's online entrepeneurship. There was a great Colbert segment, too.

[Jacobin]

31. KerPOW

What a beautiful smackdown of the idiots in charge of our government.

[underseasurveyor]

32. Touche Mr. Axworthy

Touche!

Thank You

[johnaries]

33. Does this mean that instead of Canadian Bacon,

the Pentagon will now serve Freedom Bacon?

[Cha]

56. Canada is skating on

thin ice!:evilgrin:

[Canadian Socialist]

58. What the hell

is Canadian bacon? Is it that rather revolting ham-like substance coated in corn meal? If so, I've never touched it. And I AM CANADIAN!

[Hand]

59. Yep...

Better known as back bacon or pea bacon (???????? I don't know why, either). The corn meal's optional. The commercial stuff is almost invariably over-salty to the point of inedibility.

I think that the stuff is similar to Irish bacon, very popular when eaten with boiled cabbage.

Beats haggis, anyway.

[Canadian Socialist]

63. Oh good lord

anything is better than haggis. And I come from a Scottish background. The only way to swallow that substance is through the judicious use of adult beverages.

[bcingu]

88. What we call Canadian Bacon here in the states

Is referred to as "Breakfast Ham", at least in the parts of Ontario I have visited. Smoked pork tenderloin, to be exact.

Then there's "Canadian Bacon", the only non-documentary made by Michael Moore. Fun movie.

[applegrove]

34. The intelligence people whose stuff i have read imply that Condi

is absolutely not a neocon - just a puppet.

[nostamj]

35. thanks! that is a must read! n/t

[loritooker]

37. Fantastic article. I will write a "thank you", too.

[Disturbed]

38. "the missing $8B'?

Isn't is $9 Billion? A billion here a Bilion there and soon it adds up to real money.

[Hand]

39. P.S. ...

"And don't forget that we KICKED YOUR ASS in the War of 1812."

:evilgrin:

[pearl]

40. Thank You Canada

n/t

[Tigress DEM]

41. That's IT I'm sooooo moving to Canada! Yee Ha!

[Dudley_DUright]

42. Bravo Canada!

Somebody needs to stand up to the bullies in the Bushco cabal.

[karlrschneider]

44. This link took me directly to the article, didn't ask for sub or regist-

ration...

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/2610442p-3026695c.html

[Melissa G]

46. kick

[ailsagirl]

45. God, that is beautiful-- and so typical of Canadians because

they're not sucked into *'s BS reality. He doesn't fool them for a second and they're not shy about proclaiming it.

Thanks for posting this.

Canada rocks!!!!

:bounce:

[Cha]

49. Gawd..it makes me want to move to

Canada immediately!

This is what the World thinks of bush and the one party system thing they got goin' on right now.

I love this Lloyd Axworthy..

"As our erstwhile Prairie-born and bred (and therefore prudent) finance minister pointed out in presenting his recent budget, we've had eight years of balanced or surplus financial accounts. If we're going to spend money, Mr. Goodale added, it will be on day-care and health programs, and even on more foreign aid and improved defence."

[lonestarnot]

51. Wonder if she can whistle dixy through those two front teeth? sorry for

the embarrasment to your prime minister. The current selectee has no sense of anything but royalties and entitlements and kiss my boots you swines and keep slaving for corporate interests and the like, so since he didn't appologize, I will. Should have never happened in the first place!

[Spinoza]

85. To tell the truth,

I think Condi's 2 front teeth are sexy.

[Straight Shooter]

60. Bwahahahahahahaha!!

I'm loving it! :D

[oasis]

61. Canada, France, Germany and Russia must have huddled in secret

before the Iraq invasion. They all came out of the the huddle solidly against Bush and PNAC. And Kofi Annan says fuck Bush too.

[Canadian Socialist]

65. There is a vast Canadian conspiracy

and I've now be giving the liberty to reveal it. It's fairly simple.

1. Be polite
2. Do unto others, etc.
3. See 1.

Please keep this under your hats. If it gets out, next thing you know, compassion will break out.

[KurtNYC]

79. As a poster on DailyKos said

"Canada -- will the sanity ever stop?"

[katinmn]

64. Ha! Bushco exposed.

Lloyd Axworthy speaks for me better than ANY of those yokels in the White House.

[journalist3072]

66. Lloyd Axworthy

I was listening to Radio Canada Intl on my shortwave radio this evening, and he was interviewed on As It Happens. I absolutely loved it. He was saying how basically, there really isn't any debate here in Washington nowadays. It's basically Bushie's way or the highway. And he said Condi needs to come to Canada and see the debate that takes place there, with all points of view being expressed.

[donheld]

67. Thank god Canada is standing up to the Neo-cons.

[Canadian Socialist]

68. I am reading about all the Americans

who want to move to Canada. Now, as a Canadian, I agree. We are the best country in the world. But, that is a subjective opinion. I have this terrible feeling that a lot of Americans, be they red or blue, will be quite surprised at the difference in the culture. It's hard to explain. Most U.S.ians are very individualist. Here, most of us consider the society as a whole. Even in our most conservative area. It's a given that you will pay relatively high taxes; but you do get universal health care. It's not free. Nothing is free. That's why you pay high taxes. But, our priorities and focus are on the good of society. We have our neo-cons and our religious fanatics. But for the most part, we deal. We believe in multi-culturalism and bilingualism. Quebec is a very important part of our country and they are what we call a "distinct society". It is different here. It's not America-lite.

[LynnTheDem]

74. Don't tell Americans, but income taxes are LOWER in CANADA for most Cdns

than most Americans pay in the USA.

Canadians pay less than Americans in taxes

http://www.kaminternational.com/index.asp

http://www.canadiansocialresearch.net/taxes.htm

Small businesses: Significantly lower corporate tax rates in Canada than in the US

The average corporate tax rate in Canada is now below the average U.S. tax rate, and will be more than 6 percentage points lower by 2008.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/toce/2003/cantaxadv_e.html

Canadian Commentary: The Myth of US Taxes

http://www3.sympatico.ca/dylan.reid/ustaxes.html

[Spazito]

77. Thanks for the links!

I knew our taxes were lower but have never had the links to prove it, now I do thanks to you!

[LynnTheDem]

83. YW! But remember, DON'T TELL AMERICANS! Also don't mention

that we do not wait months for medical operations, we do not hate our medical system, we do not live in igloos and drive seld dogs to work, we do not have snow all year round, we have areas that declare a national emergency if they get 1" of snow in a winter, and the coldest spot every year in North America is NOT in Canada, it's in mainland USA.

;)

[quaoar]

69. The 'master' comment is going to get him in trouble

As in referring to Bush as Condi's "master."

The slavery allusion probably went right over his head.

Otherwise, he's dead on.

[yvr girl]

70. You gotta love Lloyd

The letter was snarky and erudite at the same time. A thing of beauty.

71. i have forwarded this on to many, many friends

and wish I could vote for it, but alas I haven't enough posts yet.

Always reading, seldom posting...

[LynnTheDem]

72. Canadian press did a slew of "America GROW UP already" articles

Smacking down bush & Rice et al for their boorish childish little temper tantrums and total lack of understanding what DEMOCRACY and SOVEREIGN NATION mean.

I concur;

America, GROW UP already!.

[Swamp Rat]

73. Tell it like it is Lloyd!!!

:yourock:

[nolabels]

80. I wonder why I never read about this in my local Reich-wing rag

Nothing like a close neighbor to tell you where to stick it


http://www.mikemoore.de/index.php?action=film&id=5

[SixDollarBurger]

78. Not a smack down

Sorry....A smack down can only be delivered face to face....

[Straight Shooter]

84. Sorry, but there are literal terms and there are figurative terms.

Welcome to DU. Beware of smackdowns.

[mojavekid]

81. Well done!,

My only regret is that he does not currently hold a political office. I will be sending this out to many.

Way to Go Mr. Axworthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sweet Freedom]

82. I love this line

"If you want to have us consider your proposals and positions, present them in a proper way, through serious discussion across the table in our cabinet room, as your previous president did when he visited Ottawa."

But, but, he got a blow job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wuwei]

86. nice!

Wow .... makes me glad I'm on a 5 year plan to move to Canada!

[UCLA Dem]

87. very cool. i wish more american politicians said stuff like that.

[u4ic]

89. Doesn't get any better than this

I wonder what the reaction will be when BushCo finds out Mr Axworthy's a Christian, too. :P

He's also an author and a past Nobel Peace Prize nominee. A couple of his books are on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0676974643/qid=1109972043/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-4600577-7489734?v=glance&s=books (a fascinating look at his vision of his vision of what we can do to ensure global security)

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0802085938/qid=1109972195/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_2_3/701-7161135-7986736

[walldude]

90. Great piece.. well written, to the point

logical, truthful, and humanitarian. Too bad it will go right over the heads of the Heads Of State. Canada's looking better and better. As each week passes and the administration drives another stake into the heart of America I'm thinking more and more of leaving...

[fortyfeetunder]

91. Let's buy Mr. Axworthy a ticket to DC

so we can have him personally see Condi and tell it like it is.

He definitely rocked on this one....