Lighters being banned on air travel ---- Shezzz

[johnnie]

"WASHINGTON - The government will ban cigarette lighters on planes and secure airport areas beginning in April but passengers can still tote common matches in carry-on bags for now, security officials said Monday."

More:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7050813/


I know the non-smokers don't care, but this will be a big pain in the ass. Matches can be carried on but not a lighter?

[dsc]

1. Gee a person gets caught lighting his shoes on fire

and you wonder why lighters would be banned. I think it is self evident why.

[johnnie]

2. True

Matches don't create fire. :eyes:

[dsc]

3. They do and should be banned too

but at least it is vastly harder to covertly light a match.

[johnnie]

7. Think about it though

If someone wanted to light their shoes on fire, they get a lighter that looks like a pen or something.
How paranoid are we supposed to get? It's like they say about your house, if thieves wants to break in bad enough, they will find a way. I have no problem with security, but it is becoming ridiculous.
Obviously, the lighter issue is not the worse thing that has ever happened to me, but being a smoker I know how bad I want a smoke after a three hour flight. This is just another unnecessary action taken by the government when I believe they could be doing other things that will make a real difference.

[dsc]

25. put a lighter in your checked in bags

Sorry but this is a real threat which has already happened once.

[johnnie]

27. They have been banned in check in bags

" Such lighters were already banned in checked baggage, but passengers previously had been allowed to have two lighters in their carry-on luggage."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050303/ap_on_re_us/zippo_homeland_security_1

[NoPasaran]

4. I'm surprised they've been permitted up until now

Whereas nail clippers have been verbotten.

[johnnie]

10. I'm surprised they don't handcuff all the passengers

If everyone was handcuffed for the flight they would not be able to do much, and we would all be safer. :)

[SoCalDem]

11. Or make them all change into red pocketless jumpsuits & flipflops

Put their clothes into a locked cloth bag that's tossed into the baggage (after it's scanned)..

It might be cheaper to build male & female changing-rooms, than to go through all the rigamarole..

They should also just eliminate baggage altogether :) UPS your stuff ahead...or they could fly daily "cargo" planes full of baggage :)

or we could all fly naked:)

[johnnie]

12. Or at least

...make us all place our hand on a bible and swear we aren't terrorists. :)

[SoCalDem]

14. If your NAME was JESUS, it wouldn't work...

They would just assume you were Mexican,confiscate your drivers' license, and call immigration :evilgrin:

[KharmaTrain]

28. I Travel...Carry Lighters on Person & In Carry-On

This is a stupid non-action to pretend our "homeland" defense boondoogle is wasting our tax money.

So it only took 3 years for them to figure out that a lighter could light a shoe bomb? Or that after 30 years of allowing people to carry these lighters that all of a sudden some bean-counter realized that it could be used like box cutters? What's next? No more pens with metal on them? No hairpins or shoe horns?

As a regular traveler, I can just see the guy being shook down for that extra Bic Click he's hiding or grandma being striped search for that cause the metal detector can't tell the difference between a hip replacement and a pocket lighter.

Until now I've never had a problem or question when I've taken a lighter onto a flight. I only carry one...and was only asked once in the past 3 years about it...and more a stupid "you're not gonna smoke on the plane, are you?".

Supposedly you should still be able to carry lighters, just like guns, ammo, box cutters and almost anything else in your regular luggage. Amazing these homeland goons haven't started the "home despot" scare about what someone puts in their luggage considering that's how the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie went down. But that would make way too much sense.

[SoCalDem]

5. Lighters will be on sale in the lobby ...for $10 each

:)

Enjoy your flight:)

[RobertSeattle]

6. Buy stock in Lighter Companies FAST!

:evilgrin:

[johnnie]

8. Exactly

I was thinking the same thing. I might have a new career ahead for me :)

[SSX]

13. Get yer lighters here!

Set up a booth in "departures" buying your lighter for 25 cents. Move em to "arrivals" sell em back for $2.00. Somehow I think Halliburton will get the contract.

[SoCalDem]

15. Capitalism at its FINEST :)

:)

[orpupilofnature57]

9. Let's not forget those guy's that just want to take off, but not land....

The same security risks that existed before 9\11 still prevail and for the same reasons, money and expedience.

[sweetheart]

16. They should offer "pocket check in"

Right when you get to the security point, there should be a person
from the airlines who can take your "illegal" objects and put them in
a box, that is then sealed with your flight number and airline, put in
to a big santa-claus sack to be re-distributed at the other end.

Instead, they seem bent on fucking with people. This is not about
terrorism... this is bush fucking with people, fucking with smokers,
fucking with people who clip their nails, fucking with people who
give presentations using laser pointers.... its beyond silly and has
gone to the point where the airline industry deserves to go bankrupt,
stupid bush supporting idiots they be.

[johnnie]

17. "the airline industry deserves to go bankrupt"

I agree. They had no problem blowing off Gore's recommendations, report after report of problems with securities and multiple warnings of threat because they didn't want to be bothered, and now the consumer is paying the higher costs.
I say screw the airline industry and let them all go under. Just think..no more airlines, no more planes flying into the pentagon. Problem solved.

[rodeodance]

18. I think the screeners should focus on more dangerous stuff

[KarenS]

19. Next: Flying Naked !!!

:eyes:

whatever.

[realisticphish]

20. now wait a minute

you may be on to something... :think:

[GiovanniC]

23. They Already Have Hooters Air

That's the next logical step in the progression.

Personally, I'm all for the Hooters girls flying nude, but I have a feeling that the Hooters girls won't feel quite the same way about me.

[realisticphish]

24. yeah

but see, if it was MANDATORY, the middle-aged business men who would be flying Hooters Air would have to show THEIR stuff too. kind of evens the playing field, don't you think? :shrug:

[AnnInLa]

21. Four, and no more than four

books of matches are allowed. Heard this morning that the CEO of Zippo (lighters) is protesting this move....saying it will cost his company 30% of profits. I don't understand the 30% thing, won't people have to rebuy lighters as soon as they can after deplaning? Doesn't it bother people that the cargos on these planes aren't even examined as well as the passengers are?

[SoCalDem]

22. Yep, and now there will be hundreds of lighters in the checked luggage

:)

[johnnie]

26. Zippo's point

They claim that there are many travelers who collect Zippos and this will hurt their business.