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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:47 PM
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Anyone a fan of Freud?
I'm just now reading 'Civilization and Its Discontents' for my Philosophy class. Fascinating stuff! I love the complexity of it all. :)
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:50 PM
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1. Thats one of his best
Freud is endlessly interesting on culture, not so much on psychology.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:57 PM
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2. The founding father of psychoanalysis
Certainly Freud opened many doors in the field of psychiatry and psychology but his model was phallocentric and patriarchal. In other words, very sexist. Modern psychoanalysts utilize some Freudian techniques but have left a lot of his theories behind.

I think most of his dream interpretion theories are a crock of shit that he concocted while tripping on LSD.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:02 PM
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5. He left science behind and developed an elaborate philosophy.
Its all very interesting and elegant, but its just one big ol pile of bad logic and bad science.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:12 PM
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8. Right, his models were fairly whacked out
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 07:13 PM by ultraist
But as I noted, his work is still relevant.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/freud.htm

Sigmund Freud, physiologist, medical doctor, psychologist and father of psychoanalysis, is generally recognised as one of the most influential and authoritative thinkers of the twentieth century. Working initially in close collaboration with Joseph Breuer, Freud elaborated the theory that the mind is a complex energy-system, the structural investigation of which is proper province of psychology. He articulated and refined the concepts of the unconscious, of infantile sexuality, of repression, and proposed a tri-partite account of the mind's structure, all as part of a radically new conceptual and therapeutic frame of reference for the understanding of human psychological development and the treatment of abnormal mental conditions. Notwithstanding the multiple manifestations of psychoanalysis as it exists today, it can in almost all fundamental respects be traced directly back to Freud's original work. Further, Freud's innovative treatment of human actions, dreams, and indeed of cultural artefacts as invariably possessing implicit symbolic significance has proven to be extraordinarily fecund, and has had massive implications for a wide variety of fields, including anthropology, semiotics, and artistic creativity and appreciation in addition to psychology. However, Freud's most important and frequently re-iterated claim, that with psychoanalysis he had invented a new science of the mind, remains the subject of much critical debate and controversy.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:00 PM
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3. He is interesting
But I am a fan of Jungian theory. Carl Jung was a student of Freud, and they parted ways when Jung developed his own theories of personality.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:01 PM
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4. As an homage to Plato
Freud fashioned his theory of the Id, Ego and SuperEgo after Plato's "parts of the soul;" the rational element, the appetite and the spirited element (Book X, Republic).

Most likely you've already been taught this since you're reading Freud in a Philos class, but thought I'd throw it out there in the event you had not.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:06 PM
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7. Yup.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 07:07 PM by Placebo
We went: Socrates > Plato > Aristotle > Rousseau > Freud :)

With some filler philosophers in between of course! :D
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:15 PM
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9. I think that aspect is one of the most important of his work
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 07:16 PM by ultraist
That he opened the door to explore the subconscious and encouraged defining behaviors by the thoughts behind them.

I commonly use the term, "Freudian slip."
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:04 PM
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6. A favorite philosopher of mine, not a fan of his work on behavior.
His decidedly pseudo-scientific approach to psychology taught alot of peole alot of really silly things.
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