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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:26 PM
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I Suspect the BFEE, not Syria, is behind Hariri assassination…
Just when the Bush Gang need a reason to attack Syria, Ka-Boom! A big bomb, lots of collateral damage and there goes the right billionaire and ex-prime minister, Rafiq al-Hariri.

Who benefits from killing this guy? Not Syria. Israel. And if Israel benefits, you know damn well the PNAC crowd toadying around Washington’s psychotic monkey benefits. That means the Bush Family Evil Empire benefits Big Time, strengthening its power and hold on the US Government.

The Modus Operandi is pure BFEE Terror Inc. Consider the history of the reichwing and their use of false-flag operations. Here follow three examples:


THE BOLOGNA TRAIN STATION BOMBING

A huge explosion at the Bologna train station two years after Moro's death may have whitened the hair of many Italians - not just for the grisly toll of 85 killed and more than 200 injured - but for the official inaction that followed. Although the investigating magistrates suspected neofascists, they were unable to issue credible arrest warrants for more than two years because of false data from the secret services. By that time, all but one of the five chief suspects, two of whom had ties to SID, had skipped the country. 74 The T4 explosive found at the scene matched the Gladio material used in Brescia, Peteano and other bombings, according to expert testimony before Judge Mastelloni. 75

In the trial, the judges cited the ``strategy of tension and its ties to `foreign powers.''' They also found the secret military and civilian structure tied into neofascist groups, P-2, and the secret services. 76 In short, they found the CIA and Gladio.

But their efforts to exact justice for the Bologna bombing came to nothing when, in 1990, the court of appeals acquitted all the alleged ``brains.'' P-2 head Gelli went free, as did two secret service chiefs whose perjury convictions were overturned. Four gladiators convicted of participating in an armed group also won appeals. That left Peteano as the only major bombing case with a conviction of the actual bomber, thanks to Vinciguerra's confession.

The sorry judicial record in these monstrous crimes showed how completely the Gladio network enveloped the army, police, secret services and the top courts.Thanks to P-2, with its 963 well-placed brothers, 77 the collusion also extended into the top levels of media and business.

SOURCE:

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gladio.html


Operation NORTHWOODS

The introductory text entry point for this document is at Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962 (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/) and is reproduced here:

In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled "Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba" was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals -- part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose -- included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington," including "sink a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated)," faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a "Remember the Maine" incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods "may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government."

SOURCE:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html


CIA Misses Sheikh

Then there’s DCI Bill Casey’s plan to blow up a terrorist sheikh back in 1985. The CIA’s stooges missed and instead killed 80 and wounded 200 innocent bystanders, missing the target Sheik Fadlallah, a real Hezbollah bad-guy who was suspected of being behind the bombing of the US Marine Corps barracks in Beirut.

The counterterror programs covered by the 1984 finding were reportedly implemented in about a dozen countries ranging from Honduras (where a counterterror infrastructure had been installed since 1981) to Lebanon.55 The Lebanese project, "to form and train three teams of Lebanese capable of neutralizing or disabling terrorists," eventually blew Up in the face of the Reagan administration. The tough talk would make

it even more difficult than before to explain the distinction between the permissible and the deplorable, or to deny the United States' hidden hand behind the more heinous actions of its allies. Secretary of State Shultz had, after all, stated for the record that the American response to the Marine headquarters bombing should include "means of active prevention, preemption, and retaliation."56 Less than a year later, a Lebanese intelligence source working with the CIA was quoted in a classic affirmation of the counterterror ethos: "You've got to stop terrorism with terrorism .57

The CIA's Lebanese terror connection came to the fore on 8 March 1985, when a car bomb exploded below the apartment of Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, leader of the Shiite group Hezbollah, the Party of God. The bombing was the product of CIA work with counterterrorist Units in the intelligence service of Lebanese President Amin Gemayel's short-lived minority government. The bomb destroyed an apartment block, killing some 80 people and injuring 200 — Fadlallah was unharmed. Sheikh Fadlallah later said he had "accurate information about the involvement of American, Israeli and Lebanese intelligence organs" in the attack. The CIA, however, bore the brunt of the responsibility.58

The story reached the American public on 12 May when the Washington Post linked the attack to a secret directive from the president in the fall of 1984, ordering the CIA to train foreign teams to make preemptive strikes against suspected terrorists.59 The story attributed the attack to one of the CIA-trained units, and quoted a Lebanese intelligence source claiming credit for the action. The source maintained that while no American agents participated in the action, "the CIA knew it was being planned."60 CIA officers, it seems, were more concerned with the disclosures than with the lives lost: they "were upset that one of most secret and much- debated operations had gone astray." The entire operation in Lebanon, they said, was immediately canceled.61

SOURCE:

http://www.statecraft.org/chapter16.html


These are just a few of the sick and sordid actions taken and contemplated by my nation’s “leadership.” The main objective hasn’t been to create a better world or to benefit US national security. It’s been to create a more prosperous military-industrial complex and its associated state of permanent war, vital to the nation and world's ruling elites. So, is it any wonder I suspect the Bush Family Evil Empire (for want of better term) in the recent death of Rafiq al-Hariri? -- Octafish
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:38 PM
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1. I think that the Hariri bombing
sticks like Negroponte.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:49 PM
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6. A bridge over the River Styx ... leads to Bush Family Evil Empire.
You're spot-on, TexasProgresive:The super-turd John Dmitri Negroponte is a first-order stooge for the Bush Transnational Criminal Enterprise. Calling this gang slipperier than snot on a brass door knob is an insult to snot. From antiwar.com:


Hariri Killing Sure to Bolster US Hawks

by Jim Lobe

Whether or not Syrian President Bashar Assad was behind Monday's assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, the car bombing is sure to strengthen forces inside the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush who have long argued for "regime change" in Damascus.

Before the bombing that killed Hariri, half a dozen of his bodyguards and at least five bystanders, the balance of power between anti-Assad hardliners and more flexible forces within the administration was roughly even.

Earlier this month, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, who is considered a hawk on Damascus, even insisted to a Congressional panel that "it is not our policy to destabilize Syria."

But, as suggested by Washington's abrupt withdrawal of its ambassador in Damascus Tuesday morning, that position may well be in the process of changing, if it hasn't changed already.

"The regime changers will be strengthened by this," predicted Michael Hudson, who teaches at the Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. He said Washington's precipitous recalling of its ambassador signals a "decision to really put the screws to the Syrians."

CONTINUED...

http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=4857
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:43 PM
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2. 12 Australians wanted over Hariri’s murder
Lebanon’s Justice Minister Adnan Addoum said on Friday that authorities were hunting for twelve Australian men wanted over the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq al-Hariri.

Addum said that six of the suspects left Beirut for Australia hours after Monday’s deadly blast, adding that police found traces of explosives on aircraft seats.

Hariri was killed in a huge explosion in Beirut which also claimed the lives of additional 16 people.

http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=121073

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:02 PM
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7. Australia! Or they carried Ozzie passports...
Or they had one-way Quantas tix... Or they really were someobody else. These scum are traitors, whoever they are or for whomever they work. BFEE, I suspect.

From your link:

12 Australians Wanted Over Hariri's Murder

EXCERPT...

And while the U.S. and Israel pointed finger of suspicion at Syria, Imad Moustapha, the Syrian ambassador to the United States, said the Syrian government wasn’t involved in Al Hariri’s assassination, and called the former Lebanese Premier a constructive moderate.

"Why would Syria even look with hostility to a person like Rafiq Al Hariri, who is actually helping to mediate between us and the Lebanese opposition?" said Moustapha.

http://www.keralanext.com/news/readnext,1.asp?id=121073&pg=2

BTB: Thassagreat article, RBHam! Thanks!



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:47 PM
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3. I suspect several million people (at least) agree with you (nt)



"DO YOU ENJOY BEING A CITIZEN OF THE ROGUE SUPER_POWER?"
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:10 PM
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9. Bush might do sumpin'ess Poppy cou'n't dew: Unite Iraq and Iran.
A Shi'ite Iraq Emerges

by Juan Cole

Muhammad Husain Adili, the Iranian ambassador to the United Kingdom, said Thursday that his government had lent substantial help to the United States in fostering a "calm atmosphere" for the holding of elections on Jan. 30 in Iraq. He revealed that Iran had contacted Sunni Arab groups with which it had influence and attempted to convince them that the elections were in Iraq's best interest. He offered Iran's help in future, as well, in helping establish security in the Middle East, where Iranian and US interests coincide.

As I predicted, the United Iraqi Alliance not only has 51 percent of seats on its own, but has already made a coalition with some smaller parties. The three representatives of the Cadres and Chosen Party that is close to Muqtada al-Sadr will join the large coalition, as will the three deputies of the Turkmen National Front and a few independents. Only twelve lists were seated in parliament in the end, and most of them have joined the Shi'ite fundamentalist coalition. If the UIA can come to an agreement with the Kurds, it can easily form a government and then rule parliament.

In a startling development to which the Western press is paying little attention, the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq has won the provincial governments in 8 of the 18 provinces in the country, including Baghdad. Over-all Shi'ite lists won 11 of the 18. Sadrists won Wasit and Maysam, and perhaps one other. Dawa doesn't appear to have run well at the provincial level. The Kurds won several of the northern provinces, including Ta'mim (where Kirkuk is) and Ninevah. The Iraqi Islamic Party won Anbar province, even though it withdrew from the elections. (It couldn't properly withdraw because the ballots had already been printed.) But only 2 percent of the residents of Anbar voted, so the IIP victory doesn't mean much.

The UIA is looking to given Muwaffaq al-Rubaie, former national security adviser, an important post. It will definitely sack interim Defense Minister Hazem Shaalan, who is vehemently anti-Iranian.

Tony Karon of Time profiles Ibrahim Jaafari, who will most likely be the new prime minister of Iraq. He says

"...Jaafari is a 'Shi'ite modernist,' according to an AFP profile carried in the Tehran Times. He has signaled a moderate Islamist position on questions of religion and the state, advocating that Islam be constitutionally recognized as Iraq's official religion and a source (but not the sole source) of legislation, and that no laws will be passed that contradict Islamic values. At the same time, he favors protection of minority religious and ethnic groups, and insists that the first priority of a new government is not only to be as inclusive as possible of those who participated in the election, but also to draw in those who stayed away – almost half the eligible population (42 percent), including the vast majority of Sunnis ... The U.S. is now faced with negotiating a relationship with a new government that reflects limited U.S. influence, and whose leaders enjoy historic ties with Iran."

CONTINUED...

http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=4888

Of course you know who that hurts -- the United States. It does help the M-I Complex and its ancillary organs, the BFEE.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:48 PM
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4. mossad agents Killing Oz Tourists to Steal their Identity?
indy news source in new zealand...


The Israeli Mossad agent Zev Barkan has been running Asian criminal gangs used to obtain Australian Identity documents and other passports stolen from Australians Killed in Asia, a New Zealand security official has said.

I was contacted by a New Zealand official, who has intelligence connections in Asia while I was shopping in Toul Tom Pong Market in Phnom Penh and provided documents to support this information on the condition that it remain anonymous and I not publish the documents considering the risk to officials if the source of this leak was identified, this New Zealand official said Barkan was connected to an Israeli terrorist cell operating out of Thailand.

"He goes to Laos, Cambodia, Burma and Thailand and is running gangs that he pays to kill tourists, and steal their Identity papers passports then cover it up, most just disappear or their deaths have been reported as accidents, drownings and such, they like to throw their victims off the side of tour boats" said a New Zealand security official

Barkan has been named by New Zealand authorities as the kingpin in a passport theft ring for which two Israelis with Australian links were jailed for six months last week in Auckland.

One of the jailed men, Eli Cara, 50, had his rented home in Turramurra raided by ASIO in March. A short time later, he was arrested in New Zealand.

The New Zealand Government has named Barkan, Cara and the other convicted man, Uriel Kelman, as Mossad agents.

this is unsettling...

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/74269_c...


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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 10:49 PM
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5. Canada has also been victim to the Mossad's "creative spying"...
Identity fraud is not a new type of crime. It has been used for spying purposes as in the case of the Second World War in which there was a wide use of false identification. The use of false identification has been also related to terrorism. In recent years Canada has even been a victim of such practices as in the case in which the Israeli Mossad used Canadian stolen passports in an attempted murder of Hamas leader, Khaled Meshal (Spector, 1997).

http://www.yorku.ca/nathanson/Publications/id_fraud.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:22 PM
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13. Gee. With friends like these? Spy in Australia wanted US Secrets...
Expelled Diplomat Linked to US Secrets

ASIO has cracked a spy ring in Canberra after tailing an Israeli diplomat who was suspected of being an agent of Mossad, Israel's espionage service.

Amir Lati, the second secretary at the Israeli Embassy, was secretly expelled from Australia last month.

He is known to have seduced a senior Defence Department official who is believed to have had access to classified documents.

It is believed he intended to use the woman to gain US intelligence and military technology given to Australia.

The Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation put the junior Israeli diplomat – and other embassy officials – under surveillance after he visited two suspected Israeli spies who were arrested in New Zealand.

SOURCE:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12232631-421,00.html
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:41 PM
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17. Excellent analysis in today's Jordan Times-Qui Bono?
There is a desire to run a pipeline through Lebanon. A more direct route for the Iraqi oil. Syria is in the way. We' ll see how this plays out. Smells rotten. Fits the pattern and the grand schemes of the PNAC'ers. A few excerpts and the link:


"Who, then, is the main beneficiary of Hariri's assassination? The Bush administration. Washington has meddled in Lebanese affairs for more than half a century. It has even used a car bomb on at least one occasion: in the mid-1980s, the US Central Intelligence Agency tried and failed to kill Sheikh Hussein Fadlallah, Hizbollah's spiritual mentor, with a massive device." <snip>
".... the assassination, on Monday, of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. He was killed as the US and its allies stepped-up pressure on Damascus to quit Lebanon. The Lebanese anti-Syrian opposition accused Damascus of having a hand in the killing. Other quarters, including the US, blamed the Syrian and the Lebanese authorities for failing to protect Hariri and impose security."

" Cool-headed analysts argued that Syria would not risk its role as guarantor of Lebanon's stability by killing the country's sole high profile politician who had, until last October, been an ally of Damascus. Syria could hardly claim to be an effective guardian when such a shocking attack takes place.'

Rim Allaf, an analyst at the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, observed: “Whoever did it aimed at creating chaos in Lebanon and pointing the finger at Syria. I can't believe anyone in Syria could think that would help them.”

By killing Hariri, she asserted, “Syria would be shooting itself in the foot”.

" Whoever planted the bomb was certain that Damascus would be blamed. Therefore, one must ask who benefits from Hariri's assassination. Israel, of course, was the instant choice of west Beirut Arab nationalists. They argue that Israel seeks to prove that Syria's presence is no longer a factor for stability in Lebanon in order to force Damascus to disengage. They also say that the bombing has warned Lebanon that it must rein in Hizbollah, which Israel accuses of training and arming Palestinian Islamic militants in the West Bank and Gaza. This strike in the heart of the Lebanese capital could also compel Syria to end its support for Hizbollah and the Palestinian resistance.
George Bush and his neoconservative officials have had a scenario in mind for Syria-Lebanon ever since they took office in 2001. By forcing Syria to withdraw its troops and political influence from the country, the administration, like Israel in 1982, could hope to install its own men as president and prime minister".
www.jordantimes.com/thu/opinion/opinion2.htm
And here for a view of Lebanon's strategic importance:
A few months before PNAC's prophetic 2000 report, an allied group with an overlapping membership published a similar document outlining steps to be taken against Syria --first "tightening the screws" with denunciations and economic sanctions, then escalating to military action, as Jim Lobe of Inter-Press Agency reports. The architects of this document included Elliot Abrams, the convicted perjurer now running Bush's Middle East policy; Douglas Feith, one of Rumsfeld.s top aides; Paula Dobriansky, undersecretary to Colin Powell, and influential Pentagon advisors such as David Wurmser, Michael Leeden and everyone's sweetheart, Richard "Influence-Peddler" Perle.

www.globalresearch.ca/articles/FLO502A.html
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:03 PM
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8. I have no doubt the US and/or Israel killed Hariri.
They are the only ones who would benefit. Within minutes of the announcement on "MSM" they were saying Syria did it. I knew then bullshit! Syria ain't stoopid....
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:17 PM
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10. Melbourne Indymedia...
Very good thread on the "Mossad killing tourists story"...

Alot of questions as to the veracity of this controversy...


http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/74554_comment.php
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:19 PM
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11. But, what's this connection? If any...
Israeli envoy secretly expelled from Australia - report

From the New Zealand Herald...

05.02.05 11.30am


SYDNEY - Australia secretly forced a senior Israeli diplomat to leave the country, and neither Israel nor Australia wanted to comment about the matter, according to a newspaper report.

The Sydney morning Herald said the effective expulsion of the Canberra-based diplomat -- described as a consul in Israel -- was covered up for several weeks.

But it said the matter had come to light in a report in the Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv.

It said inquiries about the story last night were met by no comments from the Australian government.

more...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=32&ObjectID=10009639
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:22 PM
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12. does this connect threads 2 and 11, or godforbid thread 4???
jesus aged christ...

what a clusterf@#$ this could end up being...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:34 PM
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15. Most tawdry affair involving 26 y.o. daughter of AUS Attorney General
Well there's a line I should've tried in my youth... "Octafish. James Octafish."

Spy Offered Sex for Secretsb

AN Israeli spy was kicked out of Australia for trying to seduce female spies, diplomats and defence specialists employed by some of the most sensitive national security agencies, security sources said yesterday.

Amir Laty, expelled on December 28, even targeted journalists in the hope of cultivating young women with access to government secrets.

"It was an attempt at high-level espionage," a national security source said.

Apart from Laty's friendship with Attorney-General Philip Ruddock's 26-year-old daughter Caitlin, he is also believed to have had liaisons with a woman from the Defence Intelligence Organisation and another from the Prime Minister and Cabinet Office's international policy unit.

CONTINUED...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12295923-2,00.html

This is a most curious subject -- one where many roads lead straight to PNAC's porch and the Little Turd from Crawford's employer.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:27 PM
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14. add Mossad to the mix and ding ding ding
you'd have a winner
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:35 PM
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16. Locking
This discussion has become imflammatory.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:42 PM
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18. That was my first thought too.
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