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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 05:33 PM
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Ronald Reagan supported Terrorists
I read a post a couple of minutes ago, when Crossfire was being aired, some people shouted and yelled every time when Reagan's name was mentioned.

These are probably some of the same people who believe Bush can protect us. (Just like he protected us on 9/11/01)

Reagan was a big supporter of terrorism. Nicaragua, Iran, and even Iraq.



Here's Donald Rumsfeld, back then he was Reagan's Envoy to Iraq. And, who is the person that Donald Rumsfeld is shaking hands with?

If you're with me. Say it, say "Ronald Reagan supported terrorism!"
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 05:51 PM
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1. Reagan perfected the art of negotiating woth terrorists in Iran...
... then followed up with caving in to terrorists in Lebanon.

And, as his lasting legacy, he created the terrorist organization that killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

Quite a track record.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:02 PM
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2. "Ronald Reagan supported terrorism!" Big Time! NT
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:04 PM
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3. Ronald Reagan WAS A TERRORIST
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 06:05 PM by K-W
I think thats the more important fact here.

He should be held accountable for acts of terror around the world.
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agitpropagent9 Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:16 PM
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4. logic alert
i know it feels good to run with this, but you might be painting yourself into a corner.

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if reagan sent rumsfeld to cozy up to saddam, and

rumsfeld is pictured shaking hands with a terrorist, then

saddam is a terrorist, and therefore

he was (and iraq was) a legitimate target in the war on terrorism.

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just pointing out how rhetoric can sometimes compromise one's philosophical consistency...

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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:20 PM
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5. Huh? Logic alert for you
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 06:20 PM by pabloseb
Saddam was evil, but how does it follow LOGICALLY from that that the invasion of Iraq was justified?
:hi:
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 06:24 PM
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6. Take it all the way: We are a legitimate target in the war on terrorism.
Hell at this point we're probably the envy of the terrorist world. I bet in terrorist bars and cafes one can usually hear some guy, on a Friday night, looking up at CNN/FOX and saying "Damn, those Yankees sure are the cream of the crop...sigh...I wish I had that kind of ability to kill..."...
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:04 PM
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7. By the time Bush invaded, Saddam was a FORMER terrorist...
.. and had been for a decade.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:25 PM
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8. Did Reagan support terrorists?
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 09:26 PM by two gun sid
Just ask the crew of the USS Stark. That old motherfucker gave the Iranians weapons for hostages. The Stark was payback.

The Contras. The mujahadeen. Yeah, I guess he did support terrorists.

As I read on DU: Ronald Reagan, that motherfucker ain't dead enough.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:01 PM
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9. Pruneface Supported Terror Inc.
That neo-Nazimafiosowannabe made a mint playing both sides of world war.

America! Your nation's been hijacked by traitors. Here's a big bit of evidence from the Internets:

Iran-Contra and the Israeli Lobby

excerpted from the book

Covert Action

the Roots of Terrorism


edited by Ellen Ray and William H. Schaap

Ocean Press, 2003, paper

EXCERPT...

The campaign for world economic and political domination gathered momentum during the final years of the Cold War, including the decade-long Iran-lraq War of the 1980s (in which the United States sold arms to both sides) and the "clandestine" wars against Nicaragua's Sandinista Government and the revolutionarymovements in El Salvador, Guatemala Angola, South Africa and elsewhere. What became known as the IranContra scandal-clandestine U.S. arms sales to Iran, facilitated by Israeli intelligence guidance, with the huge profits used to fund the terrorist war of the contras against the revolutionary government of Nicaragua-was a major part of these operations. Both ends of the operation were ostensibly prohibited by U.S. Iaw and the secret sales to Iraq were not even part of the publicly known equation.

The psychological operations, or "psyops" apparatus, institutionalized today, which have virtually eliminated public media debate while severely damaging civil and constitutional rights, began in earnest during the Reagan and Bush I administrations. And the forces shaping administration policies and consequently government propaganda, include familiar faces from those years: Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Eliot Abrams and Michael Ledeen, among many others.

During the Reagan years, the State Department ran an Office of Public Diplomacy, which was little more than a separate disinformation office. And it was riddled with Iran-Contra figures like Lt. Col. Oliver North and Adm. John Poindexter. With the "war on terrorism" as its justification, the current Bush Administration tried to establish a formal international disinformation agency, a shadowy Pentagon operation called the Office of Strategic Influence, directed to "conduct covert operations aimed at influencing public opinion and policymakers in friendly and neutral nations." Even the mainstream press found the open espousal of disinformation too much and Congress refused to fund the program. Of course, the secret operations continue, as they always have. Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld was unusually frank and openly cynical about it. After announcing that the exposure of their plans had forced the Pentagon to shut down this operation, he defiantly told reporters, "fine I'll give you the corpse..., you can have the name, but I'm gonna keep doing every single thing that needs to be done and I have."

More successfully, the Pentagon established the Total Information Awareness Program, to collect and collate all available electronic information on U.S. citizens, compiling credit-card, travel, medical, school, banking and other data. Brought in to head this agency was Adm. John Poindexter, despite his conviction in Iran-Contra on five felony counts of Iying to Congress (later overturned because he was deemed to have been granted immunity). This, too, was a bit much for the Congress and Poindexter's appointment was rejected.

The compelling international issues today, those which will shape the future, are most importantly the Middle and Far East-Israel, Iraq, China, North Korea. Preeminent is Israel, for it is the Israel lobby (sometimes called the Israel firsters), broadly defined, which is setting the entire, immediate, agenda. Traditional lobbying of Congress is still dominated by the American-lsrael Political Action Committee, but its power base today is the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, chaired by Richard Perle, a Reagan Defense Department veteran. Perle was a co-founder of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), which maintains that there is no difference between Israel's national security interests and America's. It calls for "regime change" not just in Iraq, but in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. "Total war," JINSA co-founder and pundit Michael Ledeen (another Iran-Contra figure) calls it. Two other JINSA board members are on the policy board, Adm. David Jeremiah and former CIA Director James Woolsey.

CONTINUED TREASON...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Iran_Contra_Israel_CA.html



An angry monkey.
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