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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:36 PM
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Democratic party is dead
Just heard Jay Rockefeller praise bush's appointment of Negroponte. How soon we forget how we forget about Nicaragua, and the blood on his hands

Most of the democrats in congress stand for NOTHING!!!


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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:37 PM
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1. Two words: Howard Dean
He just took the reins at DNC. Give him time to turn things around.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:39 PM
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2. You are right
All would be lost if it wasn't for him winning the head of the DNC

There is a glimmer of hope
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:42 PM
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5. Add Barbara Boxer to the handful of glimmers.
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 05:44 PM by bvar22

Proud Member of the Boxer Rebellion!

Waxman
Lee
Byrd
Kucinich
Dayton
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:42 PM
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4. Didn't someone from the Party just say,
and I am paraphrasing, "Howard Dean's job is to raise money, not set policy"?

With that kind of attitude at the Party level, Dean won't be turning anything around.

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:46 PM
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8. The "Establishment " Dems...
...will continue to try to torpedo Dean like they did in the Primaries.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:51 PM
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10. Well, maybe not dead...
but it has been looking weak and sickly for a while...hopefully, vitamin Dean will perk it up...give it some of its old strenth and vitality.
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:41 PM
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3. Like Zappa said about jazz.......
It's not dead... it just smells funny! ;-)
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:43 PM
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6. Take a breath, people.
We are FAR from dead. Look at Boxer, Tubbs-Jones, Kerry, even what Clinton (whom I'm not sold on yet) is doing with voting. Look at Slaughter pushing the * admin about Geckert. Fighting is going on. It just takes time to pull the stragglers back to the party since it's been in disarray for so long. Have a little patience....
KJ
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:44 PM
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7. Both parties Dem and Rep = Mexico's PRI the institutional corruption party
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 05:45 PM by EVDebs
Individuals within the parties need to make the changes. The good ones will find eachother, hopefully.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:47 PM
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9. Sadly, we have Democrats who voice opinions on every issue
that counter our best interests. This happens on every issue....and these lone Democratic voices become the 'de facto' official position for the Party...because these are the ones who will get the media oxygen on the issue.

You never see that with Republicans, do you. Everyone programmed to think, speak, and act in lockstep on every issue as directed by Party HQ.

I can allow freethinkers in the Party, even when they are dead wrong. Maybe Rockefellar can have his mind changed if he takes a refresher course on the Iran-Contra debacle of the 80s.

It seems we're about to experience a revolution in our domestic policies that were incubated and refined in Central America, 25 years ago. Hang on folks, it going to be a bumby ride....



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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:55 PM
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11. No, the centrist policy of appeasement
of the republican bullies is dead. Bury that sumbitch quick, it STINKS!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:58 PM
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12. I have forgotten nothing and I'm a Dem.
:dem:
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CityZen-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:02 PM
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13. As Mose Allison Stated...
"tell me something that I don't know"!
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bmovies Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 06:23 PM
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14. No, no. It's not dead.
It's pining for the fjords.
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