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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:39 AM
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I just heard on MSNBC that there is a new torture video coming out..
from Guantanamo bay ... saying that women soldiers were seen using menstrual blood and rubbing in on inmates....
anyone seen anything about this?
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:44 AM
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1. I saw it. Thongs and miniskirts were mentioned as well.
Yeah sure. Those were rogue soldiers acting on their own accord in Iraq.

Hang the poor slob soldiers out to dry- brought to you by the "support the troops crowd".
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:56 AM
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6. They shoud be called the "EXPORT the troops" crowd
They don't give a damn about the US soldiers. They just want to sit on their fat asses and watch TV while US soldiers die in Iraq and Iran for the Bush/Cheney crusades.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:45 AM
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2. I haven't seen it, but I heard about it last year.
Of course it was denied. They always deny until there is proof.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:47 AM
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3. Oh great, are we going to see Lyndie England in pumps and a thong
now? Where's the FCC when you need them the most.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:48 AM
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4. Tell Rush to crank up the spin machine....He'll probably try to claim
...envy for the detainees:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/28/content_413076.htm

One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners, mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives.

Beginning in April 2003, "there hung a short skirt and thong underwear on the hook on the back of the door" of one interrogation team's office, he writes. "Later I learned that this outfit was used for interrogations by one of the female civilian contractors ... on a team which conducted interrogations in the middle of the night on Saudi men who were refusing to talk."

<snip>
In one incident, dated June 19, 2004, "The detainee appears to be genuinely traumatized by a female escort securing the detainee's leg irons," according to the document, a U.S. Southern Command summary of videotapes shot when the teams were used.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:03 AM
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7. It goes from frat initiation stuff to sororities now.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:22 AM
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10. Rush Will Just Say That
This proves that woman have equality now.

I can hear it now: "It's a good thing that they can be as dehumanizing as men". "Folks, this is what the Feminazis have hoped for all along." "We ought to welcome this as a sign that the glass ceiling has been broken" <sarcasm off>

Anyone want to bet against my prediction?????
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:36 PM
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17. Good call... I think you may as well send your post to Rush, and save him
some time.

Nice avatar, btw...
Good to see after last week's black and gold fashion show here in NE Ohio. hahaha
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:43 PM
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18. Oh Man. My Wife is from Canton
and is a huge Steelers fan. For the last 19 years there have been at least 2 weeks a year we don't talk to each other!!

GO BROWNS!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:54 AM
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5. Boy, wasn't it good luck this didn't get released four months ago!
Might have taken MSNBC's attention away from the Swift Boat Liars, and that could have affected the outcome of the election (in a negative way for the Chimperor, which is verboten), and might have turned some people off of what's being done in their name and with their tax dollars by this corrupt administration.

But now that the Eagle is Sore again, we can come out with some of this bad news. It certainly can't hurt the Bushistas now.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:06 AM
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8. yes, female body functions would bring down the GOP.
Fundie males are just as misogynist as muslims are
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:41 AM
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13. This came out a year ago, and people called it inconceivable.
People here.


MY HELL IN CAMP X-RAY

Mar 12 2004

WORLD EXCLUSIVE

By Rosa Prince and Gary Jones

A BRITISH captive freed from Guantanamo Bay today tells the world of its full horror - and reveals how prostitutes were taken into the camp to degrade Muslim inmates.

...

But Jamal's most shocking disclosure centred on the use of vice girls to torment the most religiously devout detainees.

Prisoners who had never seen an "unveiled" woman before would be forced to watch as the hookers touched their own naked bodies.

The men would return distraught. One said an American girl had smeared menstrual blood across his face in an act of humiliation.

Jamal said: "I knew of this happening about 10 times. It always seemed to be those who were very young or known to be particularly religious who would be taken away.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid%3D14042696_method%3Dfull_siteid%3D50143_headline%3D-MY-HELL-IN-CAMP-X-RAY-name_page.html
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:53 AM
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16. Well, I'm sure MSNBC would have gotten right on this
If it had been more newsworthy than, say, the Dean Scream or the Swift Boat Liars.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:18 AM
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9. Is Mel Gibson Directing It?
I mean this guy, everything from Braveheart to Lethal Weapon, to Payback, to the Passion has some kind of torture in it.

I'm surprised he doesn't have a job in this admin yet.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:39 AM
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12. Ironic comment since Christs "blood of life/ blood of the lamb" meme
was stolen from paganism in which case the blood in question WAS menstrual blood.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:45 AM
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15. Good one!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:35 AM
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11. Not exactly the "be all that you can be" campaign I expected from...
...female soldiers. :grr:

It's a morbid social experiment isn't it? Forcing the unhealthy, neurotic, "in-your-face" sexuality of America on the unhealthy, neurotic, "shun the female body" sexuality of people in Saudi Arabia. Odd.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:44 AM
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14. Good lord, I hope this isn't true.
If it is true, however, I hope the video gets out. What kind of animals have we (collectivly) become in our fervor to "git the terra-ists"?

This kind of shit is what makes me want to run outside and scream "WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE START PAYING ATTENTION?!?!"

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