Somebody help me out here, how can freepers possibly think MSM is

[kuozzman]

anti-Bush? How is this possible? At all? Do they think that because MSM simply acknowledge some of *'s fuck-ups, that that's bad? Even when once they acknowledge anything, it's propaganda from then on??(Kerik? Armor? Dozen more? Do they not realize that MSM is more right wing than ever? And that they either ignore or minimize every bad thing the Bush Administration does? And promote every good thing he does??......Kerik?? Stealing the god damn election?? or at the very least, maybe let people know of the mass voter supression, or that there are many, including congressmen who doubt the accuracy of VMs?? The crap economy?? Militarizing Space?? Iraq??-I don't give a crap about Chem-Ali, how about the bombs going off, people dying? Let me know about Chem-Ali once he's sentenced......I don't feel like I come to these conclusions because I'm a Dem, it seems like this type of thing is like black/white. MSM either favors *, or they don't. And they most certainly do! Am I being biased or are freepers just complete dumbasses???

[seabeyond]

1. last week talking to fundie friend about stolen election

she says, it isnt on the news it must not be. i told her, news is closed, they arent reporting anything, doesnt mean it isnt happening

of course the first thing she says is, that cant be, it is a liberal press.

that is when i went into yell. if it was a liberal press they wouldnt have done to clinton in hte impeachment what they did. they never said a positive thing about gore, just fed on the lies, gore is a liar, gore says he invented internet, with no truth. there was not a positive about kerry thru out the campaign. that is not a liberal press

a decade ago or more repugs started saying liberal press and you all buy it. they tell you a story and it becomes fact. they are laughing at you, calling you a sucker, they can tell you whatever, and know you will adopt it as fact and do no research or free thinking to figure it out yourself

tell me where the liberal media is

shut her up, wink

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Two reasons:

First, under any state-managed propaganda system, any criticism of the Great Leader is tantamount to treason. Therefore, all news about the Great Leader has to be positive. Anything that could be construed as critical in any way "proves" the MSM is against the Great Leader. If they were truly for him, they would never criticize him at all.

Second, the Freepers need to perceive themselves as victims, or else their whole construct falls apart. They have to feel persecuted or they can't stir up the requisite fury. Since they already control all three branches of the government, that leaves only the media. As long as there is the faintist whiff of criticism of The Great Leader, they can whine about how the 'librul" media is against them (and, of course, against America).

[Tampa Rob]

4. This is a dynamite post - especially the second part.

You are correct - their construct falls APART unless they are the victims.

We've got to figure out a way to get that message to the people...

TR

[itzamirakul]

5. The problem is not

GETTING the message to the people - it is getting the people to BELIEVE the message. The Republicans have taught their dittohead supporters quite well to disbelieve ANYTHING that does not uphold their point of view. Only when the Democrats get some real strong voices that can be REAL competition to the voices of Rush, O'Reilly and Hannity can we even HOPE to begin to get the truth through.

While we are all grateful to have AAR, none of the voices except for Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy have enough progressive enthusiasm and point-making ability to get the opposition to even listen. The other shows are pure milque-toast - soggy with ridiculous comedy and very little pointmaking.

Instead of bashing the Republicans for their ill-conceived policies on Social Security and tax cuts and the war, people from our party are busy going from tv talk show to tv talk show to demonize Michael Moore for doing the job that the Democratic Party and our candidate SHOULD have done.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

7. Easy - any person that can rationalize that Dim Son is a good

president would have no problem buying the rest of the bilge that comes from the "morans" that spew support for the Asshole in Chief. They are told so it must be true. "Yes, Master, I believe."

The ability to actually do critical thinking is not a plus for the freeper crowd - and Rove & Co. have learned to play this card exceptionally well. Most freepers just need a constant barrage of hate talk to reaffirm that their sorry little lives are all in the toilet because the Democrats thought everyone should be treated equally, that the Democrats took God out of their lives (not true, but...), and that fear has overtaken their lives completely. They are scared of anything and everything so BoyGeorge plays to the lowest common denominator.

They have to swallow the lies so that supporting this war and the war crimes and the killing are all OK. They HAVE to believe these lies, they HAVE to wear blinders, they HAVE to drink the Kool Aid and believe that one day they'll sit down with GeorgyPorgy and have a beer and their lives WILL finally, finally have purpose. For this they are willing to ignore the truth. The do not recognize that Dim Son hates these people - has never, ever associated with them in his live except during campaigns for photo ops. The GOP hates these people more that the Dems do - after they have their vote.

They have BEEN TOLD there is a liberal media - ergo it must be true and they don't cloud their hate filled minds with the truth. They use the Democratic Party to explain away the total blandness or failure of their own lives. This administration has done nothing BUT lie - WMD's, Saddam, budget costs, civil liberties, torture, slam dunks and flowers, arming our military - heck too many lies to begin listing - and the rich GOP members are laughing all the way to the bank.

Liberal media - what an oxymoron. What a colossal lie.

[Robbien]

8. Good answers

I would suggest though the second one needs a little adjustment. As victums the freepers lash out their fury not only at the so called liberal media, but at everyone and everything that is not freeper-like. The freepers label everything not freeper-like "liberal".

[InvisibleBallots]

3. MSM? You mean the Corporate Media

You are right, they must be crazy to think the Corporate Media is anti-Bush.

[MSgt213]

6. It seems to me that Freepers long for the days of total state control

of message. Despite all their talk of being patriotic they have seen to loss their ability to objectively look at their own leaders. Whats more important to a Free per, the United States of America or George Bush or Tom Delay? By their very actions they are proving to me that their favorite individual politicians are more important to them then the country. What's good for George Bush is not necessarily good for the country. If John Kerry were president would we all sit here and defend every single one of his policies without comment? I think not.

[s-cubed]

9. "needing to be a victim" explains the ranting about stealing Christmas

[Robbien]

10. Yes, and once the holiday is over, expect another idiotic campaign

whose sole intent is to fire up the fury of the freeper troops.

[gumby]

11. Neither Fascism nor Fundamentalism

are logical, both rely on supremacy thinking and they reinforce each other.

This country has collectively 'lost its mind' and is in the grips of a Death Cult who praise the Big Lie (of which the "liberal media" is only one).

Freeper + Moral Majority = Good German.

[Killarney]

12. they believe the msm is liberal because the conservative

media TELLS them that the msm is liberal.

These people's #1 fault is that they believe what they are told and do not question. That's why so many of them are Bible-literalists. They do not question. They just go on "faith" rather than facts -- or reality.

So, Rush/Hannity/O'Reilly and all of FOX tell them the MSM is liberal and they believe it without question.

That's why so many of them truly do not believe Fox is conservative. They say Fox is fair & balanced and middle of the road. They say all the other media outlets are liberal and Fox is the only one showing "both sides" so all MSM is liberal except Fox who is fair and conservative doesn't exist.

They're delusional.