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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 11:54 AM Original message |
Should we revive the use of the word "Puritan"? |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Don't call them "puritans" |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Fundamentalist is more apporopriate |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. My post didn't address my own opinion... |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I still think fundamentalist |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. And that's a really good point to make clear -- |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. there message to the entire world never mind the U.S. |
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pagerbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Quotes about Puritanism |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't like that idea. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Puritans wanted to have religious freedom for themselves - not others |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Interesting. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. It sounds like in "denverbills" perfect world |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I didn't say it was my 'perfect world' . Far from it. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Without Quakers how |
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Lizzie Borden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Um...Rhode Island was a Catholic Colony. |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. some were hung? What? |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Didn't force their beliefs on others? |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I won't argue about the Indians. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Thought we only burned other Puritans n/t |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Puritans actually forced their religion on ANYONE who lived in |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I can tell I'm probably in for it on this thread:). |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Well, the Puritans did take over an existing community... |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Howdy Stranger, we're related |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. You're both related to my husband - |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Exactly - people confuse the Pilgrims (Separatists) and Puritans |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Hey, you think John Alden was interested in religion? |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-04 08:48 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That's my take as well. Oh well, I'm glad he jumped on that ship |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Not quite. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. That's not my impression. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Which is the impression we were all taught |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
54. I teach early American History |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Hogwash. Puritans wanted to force their religion on others |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. I like it |
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whalerider55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. ironic |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. It has too many positive meanings in the US |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Not to everybody in the US.... |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. But people do associate it with the Pilgrim Fathers. |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. But the Pilgrims weren't even Puritans - they were Separatists |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. They only became pilgrims by leaving |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
47. No, Pilgrims were Separatists not Puritans |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. But the beliefs were fundamentally the same |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. It does sound somewhat familiar... |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
15. when appropriate |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Excellent! |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. radical fundamentalist puritanical taliban |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. This is one of those cases where a focus group could be useful |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. * is no Calvanist |
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Cato1 (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. The current crop of... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The Christian Reconstructionist movement--- |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. And many of those Scotch Irish were Covenanters, |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-04 09:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. yes, theonomy was born out of Orthodox Presbyterianism - strict Calvinism |
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lawladyprof (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
36. Reactionary Republicans and their goal is |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
42. The Crucible |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
43. . |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. Puritan is better than fundamentalist.... |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. Neo-Puritans. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-04 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
57. An enlightening thread. However, the ignorant shun enlightenment. |
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ruthg (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-04 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. Great line from movie "Kinsey" pertaining to this..... |
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