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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:05 PM
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Remember when WE used to inspire the world?
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 06:10 PM by LibInternationalist
And now the most impressive displays of democracy happen in the former Soviet Union

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4036867.stm

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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:09 PM
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1. Yea... er, no. Before my time, I guess.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:10 PM
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2. Did we lose our morals, become greedy or both?
Lieing certainly couldn't help
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:10 PM
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3. I think I am now getting a little taste of how people in other countries
felt about America all this time. I actually found myself resentful and jealous of the UKRAINIANS today because they have protests, people who are interested, and a media that will cover it. In other words, a democracy.

And well, we don't.

I have been avoiding Ukrainian news and threads because I get this sick jealous feeling in my heart every time I hear about how they get to protest their stolen election (and when I hear about how MY GOVERNMENT is protesting their stolen election!!!!)

I am accustomed to living the smug life and watching the news about other people who live under the boot. Well, now that's me and now I get to watch the news about people who actually have a voice and a free press and use it. How the mighty have fallen...
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:13 PM
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5. I'm not sure about the Ukranians...
...but are those who protest yelled down by their own media for being "sore losers" or "traitors?" Are they spat on by half of their fellow countrymen for the same reasons?

Seriously, I don't know. Any insights?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:10 PM
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4. sadly, yes.................
;(
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:22 PM
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6. Can you believe this comment ?


"A White House spokeswoman earlier called for Ukrainian authorities not to certify the election until the fraud allegations are investigated."

Talk about Chutzpah!!! Can you believe that the White House spokeswoman had the nerve to say that? I can't believe she wasn't struck by lightning.


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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:23 PM
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7. truly unbelievable
irony is soooooo dead
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:26 PM
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8. Yes, but surely...
...something like that COULDN'T happen here. This is AMERICA, for chrissake.
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