You realize the Catholic stance against certain candidates isn't new!

[napi21]

I'm old now, but I remember when I was in a Catholic grade school, they taught us that we could not vote for a candidate who was pro death penalty, and we could not ever sit on a jury in a death penalty case.

As far as I know, that oponion has not changed.

That means no practicing Catholic can vote for either primary candidate! Shrub is the king of executioners from his days as Gov in Tx. Kerry is pro-choice.

I'm sure I heard, before the election, that there was a message issued from the Vatican, that there are a lot of differences between the candidates, and neither is the ideal, so Catholics should study the Candidates and make their choice based upon the one who best fits with our beliefs.

The way I read that message, Shrub started a war, is fighting against protecting the environment, pro-death penalty, anti increasing the min. wage (which promotes poverty), pro pharmaceutical companies (which promotes harm to the poor), and his only positive is anti abortion and anti gay.

Kerry wanted to get most people insured for health care, increase the minumum wage, try to wrap up the war shrub started, pro-environment, OK re-importing drugs, and his only negative was being pro-life.

IF Catholics did vote against Kerry, they didn't do their homework!

[ogradda]

1. i'm catholic

and i sure didn't vote for bush <shudder>

[aden_nak]

2. Distilling your religious beliefs into one or two issues isn't religious.

It's stupid, narrowminded, and very often just a blatant excuse for homophobia. If you accept that the first tennant of Christianity (Catholic or otherwise) is altruism towards your fellow man and acts of chartity and kindness, you pretty much HAVE to be a Democrat.

[Indiana_Dem]

3. Here's a LONG LONG history lesson:

It's a history lesson on the political struggle between "piests" (English/Scandinavian descended evangelicals who came from the New England area) and "liturgists" (Catholics and Lutherans who were immigrants from Germany, Italy, Ireland, etc.). The struggle is not new. I must attribute this article to another poster George_S who created a thread with this link yesterday. It is very long and boring and confusing but if you read it slowly, you can get a feel for the struggle that's been going on since the late 1800s-early 1900s. The evangelicals were called "progressives" :scared: . They were the ones who wanted to .....well, just read about it, it's interesting.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard28.html

[Beware the Beast Man]

4. This Catholic voted for Kerry.

[Mandate My Ass]

5. A Catholic priest visited my mother before the election

I guess he didn't want to stick his neck out by saying this during the Sunday mass but he made it clear it was her Catholic duty to vote for Bush.

He told her whatever her feelings were about the war, she must put them aside as irrelevant. The most important thing, actually the only consideration, was to vote "pro-life."

My mother thanked him for his time and voted for John Kerry.

Disclaimer: THis is not a Catholic-bashing post. My mother is a devout Catholic and she opposes abortion in most cases (tho doesn't want it outlawed) but she said her conscience would not allow her to vote for Bush, knowing what she knows about his record and character.

[napi21]

6. I'm Catholic, and I voted for Kerry too!

In church on Sunday, out priest at the end of his sermon said, now you all know how you have to vote, don't you.

As my husband & I were walking back to our car, he said to me, that just wasn't right!

Tell your mother thanks from all of us.

[Mandate My Ass]

7. I'll pass it along, thanks.

She's a very compassionate person and would be such a great DUer (she has a wicked sense of humor) but she is computer phobic so I share with her what I read here. She has a very good built in B.S. detector and it's been going off the charts for the past four years.

Even my dad has become impressed with the knowledge available here. This is somewhat of a turnaround because after 9/11 he used to look at me like I was crazy for some of the things I said. However, so much of what I said then has come true that he calls me to get the real scoop when he hears something on TV that smells like B.S.

[mark11727]

8. For a couple of weekends before the election...

...there would be a few announcements, etc, then out came the usual "reminding" us of the Church's official position on same-sex marriage, abortion, etc, with the admonishment that these positions were "NOT NEGOTIABLE", and then said we should "vote as our consciences guide us."

So I voted for Kerry.