Note from the campaign

[sandnsea]

From The Unofficial Kerry Blog -

Attention All Kerry Bloggers:

I spoke with Dick Bell, from the Kerry Blog ... he saw John Kerry last night!

John Kerry will be announcing a new organization shortly for those who want to stay involved. The organization will utilize the internet.

John Kerry expressed his gratitude to all his staffers and the Bloggers!

Please stay tuned here for updates!

The Unofficial Kerry Blog is available for all Kerry Bloggers to keep in touch with each other. Please pass this information and the following links along:

http://kerryblog.blogspot.com/
http://kerrylibrary.forumflash.com/index.php?showforum=12

http://kerryblog.blogspot.com/2004/11/attention-kerry-bloggers.html

Pamela Leavey

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. they don't do more than this

and then I will now the fix is in and they can't do a damn thig about it

The Republic is dead

[glitch]

4. Unless they're organizing a precinct by precinct survey of votes in prep

for a massive Qui Tam (or some other kind of) lawsuit, any grassroots power they hold now will shift elsewhere.

Long Live Democracy.

[Eloriel]

10. Not only that, but there arleady ARE organizations

DFA comes immediately to mind. MoveOn. MANY others.

Just what does he think he's going to do differently (or better) than what's already being done (and not just by Dean)? Why does he have to splinter the efforts by creating his own little fiefdom (or whatever)? Unless this is a totally, totally NEW initiative of some sort, it just strikes me as ... sorry, but something akin to mental masturbation. Or building a monument to himself.

[kerrygoddess]

22. the votes are being counted, the fraud investigated

There are things that the Kerry can do if they can prove fraud. It's been 5 days. Give them a chance.

[quiet.american]

2. Thanks, but...

... forgive me for not jumping for sheer joy. The huge silence from John Kerry regarding obvious voter fraud and suppression during this election, and his quick concession, is speaking more loudly to me right now than anything else.

[Benhurst]

3. Stay involved in what? Efforts to get a recount? Or plans to

waste countless hours preparing for the next plebiscite on blackbox voting machines?

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I hope he doesn't have the nerve to ask for more money. n/t

[catbert836]

6. All right!

I need to feel like I'm doing SOMETHING.

[Eloriel]

11. Good grief -- here's something you can do NOW that could have

a huge impact, and it's easy and simple. Do it from your office chair:

It's posted in 3 different forums. Pick one (or all):

URGENT: VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
GENERAL NAME TBA FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662

PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS AND DECISIONS FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x28336


REPORT VOTING PROBLEMS FORUM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x1764#1815

[clover]

7. tell bell to tell kerry we need more than this

"to stay involved" with what exactly? to stay involved with what? we aren't flies satisfied to feed on yesterday's shit.


to stay involved with what?

[GregD]

8. OH GOOD! ANOTHER INTERNETS ACTIVISM ORGANIZATION

Big
F'ing
Deal

We're supposed to think that 4 more years of national grassroots activism will produce a different outcome? Right...

Sorry, not good enough.

See ya'all in the streets when people are "really ready" to take this place back...

[Eloriel]

12. WELL SAID! And Amen, Brother. Preach it , baby! n/t

[clover]

9. make your case to stay involved. now. many of us are losing interest (nt)

[clover]

16. that once-deafening silence is now offensive, and leavey's

overuse of exclamation marks indicates childish, unfounded enthusiasm. so my last hero bites the dust. why am i surprised?

well. i guess i'm not surprised after all.

[kerrygoddess]

20. well aren't you special

Talk about childish. Kerry didn't win.. stomp your feet and give up.

Take your anger out on people who worked hard to try to make a difference.

Yes, I still have enthusiasm about John Kerry and I am entitled!

Pamela Leavey

[clover]

27. if my lame comments anger you or hurt you, well that's depressing

i think thick skin is pretty much required of any democrat today. enjoy your entitlement, but please use it to be more specific about your enthusiasm, and maybe i could enjoy the luxury of sharing it.

[kerrygoddess]

28. I happen to believe in John Kerry

And I have for 30 years. You entitled to your opinion, and free speech abounds here.

[clover]

31. yes. you are right. please use this forum to speak freely about

kerry's plans regarding and position concerning a ballot challenge. speak at length about your reasons for being energized at this time. don't assume that anyone who has supported kerry for less than 30 years is a foot-stomping outsider. understand that by virtue of age and geography, many kerry supporters are recent converts, lacking your wealth of knowledge. fill us in. we are listening, despite your finger wagging reproaches.

[kerrygoddess]

32. my first suggestion

If you want to know more about who John Kerry is watch Going Upriver - www.going upriver.com

Other than the upcoming new organization, at this time I am not privy to any other news. I will be certain to fill you in when I do.

[clover]

35. thank you for this response. i've seen the film, and it sealed my support

for kerry. please understand the depth of despair settling over most of this nation, and the panic that is growing the longer kerry remains sequestered. this is a fact: we fear any force that can defeat a fine man like john kerry, and all the more so if his defeat was through methods as corrupt as they appear.
thank you for dropping your use of sarcasm. sarcasm is impossible to address.
peace

[kerrygoddess]

38. I understand your despair

I have my own. I grew up in MA and followed his entire career. I waited most of my life for him to run and worked very hard on his behalf. He is a great man and my heart is aching right now.

He'll be on Paula Zahn tomorrow night, it appears. I heard that not through the campaign, but here and from other bloggers.

I did not mean to be sarcastic, I am defensive of JK. One of those people who have "Got His Back".

I don't know what the future holds. I wish I did. I do know however that working for Kerry's campaign was a life altering experience for me and I can't go back to life as usual now.

A large group of Kerry Bloggers have become very close and we want to stay together and continue to work with him, as Dean's supporters and Clarks supporters did.

[Pithy Cherub]

13. Not exactly the 'out of the box' idea

that make people want to shout and jump for joy! Let alone hope!

:boring: :shrug:

[kerrygoddess]

23. You don't know what is planned yet...

So why speculate.

[clover]

25. if you aren't willing to divulge what is planned, please consider waiting

until you are before you ask for support.

[kerrygoddess]

29. the info provided ...

The info provided was all there is at this point. More will be announced soon.

Some people do care to stay involved and to those who do, the message is way of letting them know they will be able to and stay tuned for more info.

Is that so hard to understand?

[clover]

33. involved in WHAT? please define your terms. cryptic messages,

by design, are meant to muddle understanding and encourage innuendo. my most gracious assumption is--and i'm assuming you are a kerry insider, judging from your tone--that you are jumping the gun, hinting (for whatever reason) at future positive developments. i pray for future positive developments, but i discard faith without reason.

[kerrygoddess]

34. I was asked to share the information

I was asked to share the information. No one is jumping the gun but you. As soon as more info is avaialable, I'll pass it on.

When Dean stepped out of the race during the primaries it was very similar. People shared that he would be forming a new organization and when the details were in place they made an announcement.

[clover]

36. perhaps it's safer to put details in place before announcing=my opiniono

[kerrygoddess]

40. announcement

The point of the announcement was head's up to those interested. People involved with the campaign asked for a way to continue working with JK. They are working on that. I passed the information along for those who want to continue working with him. When more infomation is available, I'll share it. :)

[Mandate My Ass]

14. More blood, sweat and tears required I see

at least this time he didn't promise to do anything in return so when this effort all comes to naught we'll have only ourselves to blame.

[AuntPatsy]

15. Really quite pathetic isn't it? Give us all a break with all these little

tidbits which seem to be leading nowhere, that being since they seem to say something yet say absolutely nothing at all...

Do other's high up in this org, think we, the real voice of this party are stupid?

[w13rd0]

17. If my vote doesn't count...

...and the extreme RW controls every aspect of at the federal level, why should I go out of my way to make myself a target? F'that.

In a democracy, 1 ballot = 1 vote. In a tyranny, 1 bullet = 1 vote.

[kerrygoddess]

18. FYI TO ALL COMPLAINERS!

A lot of people worked very hard for the Kerry campaign they still believe in him! I am one of those people. I volunteered for over 20 months.

Yes there are other organizations. Yes, Dean has one. Yes there is MoveOn. But there were 55 million people who did vote for Kerry and many of those people have the desire to continue to work for the causes and issues he promotes.

As for the voting fraud issue... it is being investigated! And plenty of people here have stated this over and over again! John Kerry has NOT abandoned anyone.

If you are not interested in being involved in his organization, wonderful! If you are interested in being involved in his organization, wonderful!

BUT SHOW SOME COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO DO!

You want change? Stop complaining and do something positive.

[clover]

24. is it complaining--and maybe you ought to rethink your use of this

characterization, as it formed the basis of bush's dismissal of kerry's rhetoric--is it complaining to ask for more than vague, faith-based assertions that kerry is on-task before we dedicate more of our lives to a strangely-silent candidate? the answer is no. maturity and experience dictate that i, for one, am very clear of the mission before re-enlisting, which i will gladly do--at the expense of other urgent matters in my small life--if and only if mr. kerry's intentions are made crystal-clear. i have unquestioned faith in God and my wife; all others require damned good reasons to win my dedication.
drop the word "complaining" it pisses off folks like me who go to great lengths to be kind in light of a national tragedy.

[kerrygoddess]

30. you're not being kind

A lot of people worked very hard for John Kerry and you are here with your snide comments.

I feel the nation's tragedy, "Clover" and so does every other person that was committed to Kerry's campaign.

The question is do you? Doubtful because you are here attacking people who dedicated a lot to his campaign.

[clover]

37. okay, you shut me up=i'm labelled disloyal=same old political pattern(nt)

[kerrygoddess]

39. not trying to do that

Clover

I'm just asking that understand how long time Kerry supporters are feeling right now. I know that not everyone backed JK right away. But for those who did and put in many many months, we are seriously in pain. And we also want to keep fighting.

[Clarkie1]

19. This old soldier will not fade away

We made a difference, and I think the country and the Democratic Party are better for all we did together. We moved the debate forward. We offered a powerful critique of the Bush-Cheney go-it-alone policy in Iraq. We laid out real solutions for waging a smarter war on terrorism. And we provided significant financial support to House and Senate candidates who share our views.

We didn't win on Tuesday, but we’re not giving up.

This is a difficult week for all who believe in our vision of America. Like so many of you, I worked hard for John Kerry. Like so many, I believed John Kerry would win. And I believed John would be a good president. Thank you for supporting him. I very much regret that he won't be there in the White House for us.

Much will be written about this election. People will analyze the nominees, their platforms, and the processes. There will be detailed looks at the electorate. I'm sure our party will look hard at itself -- its ideas, policies, and approaches.

We'll likely be very tough on ourselves and each other -- but I hope not too tough. We want to strengthen our party and our ability to compete in the next election and the one after that. So we need to show each other some appreciation, too, to keep it all in perspective. We did a lot of good, and we have to build on that.

I'll be listening to their views -- and to yours. It will take time, effort, and honesty to sort out the lessons. But I hope you'll be there as we do so. And participate. I look forward to reading your ideas and hearing from you in the coming days.

As for me, well, I'm continuing with efforts in the private sector. But I haven't lost my love for this country nor my concern for her welfare. So I’m not going anywhere. Through WesPAC, I'll continue to speak out and fight for the issues we care about and the values we stand for. We must bridge the partisan divide in America, but we’ve also got to keep fighting for what we know is right.

Thanks again for standing beside me over the many months. We may have lost the first battle in the fight for our nation’s future, but it’s far from the last one. We've got a lot left to do, and I promise to continue the effort to assure a safe and just nation.

Sincerely,

Wes Clark

www.forclark.com (go to "general discussion")
www.wespac2004.com (to be continued)

[kerrygoddess]

21. thanks for posting this

There are many avenues for everyone to keep up the fight. That is the point.

If John Kerry did not provide an avenue to keep up the fight people would complain about that too.

It's heartening to see that so many have not given up. Many of us who worked so long for John Kerry's campaign are looking forward to continuing to work with him.

[juajen]

26. Neither will this Clarkie

Thank you for addressing us. We've got your back, too. Words are never enough when the debt is great; but, we are in your debt and thank you from the bottom of our hearts. I have to say and you must have heard, "Our man did not go down in defeat, he was shot down by thieves and cheats." We will continue in our effort to get the proof. We know you will also be working beneath the radar. We depend on it. Love to you and your family for your sacrifice to this country in its time of great need.