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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:26 PM
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Bin Laden is located, says 9/11 panelist
Pakistani allies keeping him safe
By Jim Mohr
© SAN BERNARDINO SUN

snip - Bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan Mountains of the Baluchistan region, Lehman told the San Bernardino Sun after delivering a keynote speech on terrorism at Pitzer College in Claremont.

In the interview, Lehman noted, "There is an American presence in the area, but we can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and the United States cannot afford that right now."

When pressed on why the United States couldn't send troops into the region to capture the world's No. 1 terrorist, Lehman said the Baluchistan region of the country is filled with militant fundamentalists who do not recognize the legitimacy of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, a close ally of the United States.

"That is a region filled with Taliban and al-Qaida members," he said, acknowledging that Pakistan's security services also are filled with many who agree with bin Laden's beliefs and would aid him if U.S. Special Forces entered the region.

found this on www.robertfisk.com under latest news
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:29 PM
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1. Sound like a first grader?
"I could do it if I wanted to, I just don't want to..."
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:30 PM
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2. I don't see this article in your link
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:32 PM
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3. "That is a region filled with Taliban and al-Qaida members," he said
Uh, isn't that supposed to be who we're fighting?

This is like not having D-Day because France was filled with Nazis....or avoiding the Pacific after Pearl Harbor because the Japanese are there.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:36 PM
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8. I wonder if...
.... tha fact we haven't gone in there yet to grab him is the only reason Musharraf's head is still attached to his body.

Pakistan is an odd situation right now... Musharaf is in a precarious position..

Heyo
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:43 PM
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11. Remember, Musharaf overturned democracy in Pakistan
and seized power....
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:46 PM
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12. Yeah..
..what goes around comes around, too...

And for an extremist Islamic government to take over Pakistan right now would be a huge, huge problem.

Heyo
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:57 PM
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14. We would be, except Shrub* was fixated on Iraq . (nt)
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Blackrain Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:32 PM
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4. I'm sorry but
I can't believe that a Billionaire like Bin Laden would waste his time in some remote cave. It doesn't make sense.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:34 PM
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6. In a sense you're right...
...however, it makes sense that the single most wanted man in the world would be in the absolute most remote place on Earth.

I have always mantained that they probably have a general idea where he is... they just cannot *go* there.

When someone in after you, the smartest thing you can do is to go to a place where your pursuers *cannot* go.

Heyo
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:33 PM
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5. This Report Is Nonesense, Sir
The idea Bin Laden is in Waziristan, or any other portion of the "Tribal Areas" is carefully nurtured by Musharref because it gains him material U.S. assistance in prosecuting a decades long objective of the Pakistani state, namely extending its authority effectively into those tribal areas that have for generations successfully resisted its central rule.

Bin Laden's haunt is somewhere north and east of Malakand in the Upper Swat valley, on the border between Pakistan and the portion of Kashmir it occuppies. This is the original heartland of anti-Western jihad in the region during the nineteenth century. The principal business of Al Queda in Afghanistan was training militants for the Kashmiri struggle, and in that area, these continue to operate and dominate the scene, with the assistance and cover of the dominant elements of the Pakistani "special servive" bureau. It is a particularly congenial terrain for Bin Laden, and it here he resides....


"Who or why, or which, or what,
"Is the Akund of Swat?
"Is the tall or short, or dark or fair?
"Does he sit on a stool or a sofa or chair, or squat,
The Akund of Swat?"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:35 PM
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7. So, we can bomb the shit out of civillians in Iraq
that had nothing to do with 9-11, but we can't get Bin-Laden, the poster boy for the vent? Whatever, and Pakistan doesn't even make the axis of evil. George, George, George. :eyes:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:38 PM
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9. I've Located My New Car at the Cadillac Dealership
I know it is there.

But I can't get it for some reason. Lack of resources I guess. . . :shrug:

Guess I will have to keep walking. :cry:
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:41 PM
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10. Why in the H are we seeing this story AGAIN????????????
There's nothing to it. This is a dupe, 5 times over.

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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:47 PM
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13. I didn't know it was a dupe
sorry.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:06 PM
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15. Two words. Bull and shit.
More crap from Bush kiss asses. They have no clue where Bin forgotten is at. Bush blew it "Big time".
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:10 PM
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16. So let's see now
They can't go there to get the enemy because that's where the enemy is. Right.

As for it being another Vietnam, we already have that in Iraq.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:24 PM
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17. I read Bin Laden paid about $300,000 to get a hack license in NYC.
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