CNN Reoprt: 1 Soldier dead, 3 "HURT" in Attack

[leftchick]

I just saw this on CNN. Now one of these "hurt" soldiers may have to have a leg amputated. I think that qualifies him as seriously WOUNDED not "hurt". I am so damn sick of the daily word play these news readers are using it is shameful.... :grr:

[NNN0LHI]

1. Got a little bobo. Thats what they want you to think n/t

[Ilsa]

2. And still no totals on the casualties.

Does anyone have any real numbers on how many of our soldiers have had to be medivac'ed to Kuwait or Germany or Walter Reed?

[grasswire]

3. the figure I saw the other day...

...and I think it might have been Joe Biden who said it, was 1300 wounded GIs.

[Kellanved]

16. iraqometer says 1323

http://www.iraqometer.com/
Can't say how "real" this number is.

[leftchick]

19. My guess would be probably way more real than

the pentagon's numbers...

[Solly Mack]

4. America: How many deaths does it take before you wake up?

How many people have to die before you realise not one single death brought you any closer to freedom or "security?"

We are not fighting for "our way of life...people are dying for an illusion you have embraced and labeled freedom.

You are buying a false bill of goods and the price tag carries the name of somebody who has died just to boost George Bush's ego.

Don't you get it yet? You've been lied to..you've been had. You aren't free....a free people could stop a war waged in their name.

and we can't stop this....not until America wakes up.

[sink]

6. Re: wake up

What "illusion" are people dying for?

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the war, I don't think it is fair to the great many people involved to claim that this global conflict is an ego trip for Bush. If you honestly think that Bush could simply make the call completely and entirely on his own, you don't understand how the US government works. He may be the final decision maker, but there were a great many people in government that backed him. (Not saying I agree or disagree with them...just saying that if Bush was the only person who wanted this, we would have heard about many many people quitting because of it)

What is the lie you refer to? I'm not disagreeing that the info probably isn't all there, and some of what we hear is inacurate.

And one more question for you, what do you mean a free people could stop a war? Is it that you don't agree that your voices were heard, or that the voices against war turned out to be a minority?

[Solly Mack]

7. I'm speaking as the spouse of a soldier in Iraq

who knows more about the actual situation in Iraq than the most Americans. Shrub lies daily about it.

This isn't a "global" conflict. Unless you buy the war on terrorism bullshit. Which case, you buy any lie coming out of Chucklenuts mouth.

The lie is that Americans are free. Just because you have choices doesn't make you free...the quality of those choices are what matters. Iraq in no way threatened "our way of life"....those who do can be currently viewed at whitehouse.gov. It's a lie to say anything in Iraq has anything to do with America's "freedom." It doesn't...unless it's the freedom to be a colonial power.

If we can't choose to stop a war (waged in our name and supposedly for our sakes) then we don't have an important choice...the choice to stop war.
It's subtle...oh, so simple...but ever so important.

[EOTE]

8. I think the lies are pretty apparent...

It's been months since the end of the war and we haven't found an ounce of anything we came there expecting to find. Then of course there's the Niger references that the admin admitted shouldn't have been included in the SOTU. That's NOT insignificant. Here's the rundown of the SOTU;"Bla bla bla, chemical weapons, bla bla bla, gassed his own people, bla bla bla HE'S SEEKING URANIUM AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO BLOW US ALL UP WITHIN 45 MINUTES!!!!!". Guess which part they lied about? And don't think that was the only lie in the SOTU. Just what has been found in the months after the war that has even come close to justifying this war?

Don't you find it odd that Haliburton is receiving contracts much larger than originally planned? And the fact that these contracts were no bid to begin with? Does this not absolutely reak of a humongous conflict of interest?

[EOTE]

9. I think the lies are pretty apparent

It's been months since the end of the war and we haven't found an ounce of anything we came there expecting to find. Then of course there's the Niger references that the admin admitted shouldn't have been included in the SOTU. That's NOT insignificant. Here's the rundown of the SOTU;"Bla bla bla, chemical weapons, bla bla bla, gassed his own people, bla bla bla HE'S SEEKING URANIUM AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO BLOW US ALL UP WITHIN 45 MINUTES!!!!!". Guess which part they lied about? And don't think that was the only lie in the SOTU. Just what has been found in the months after the war that has even come close to justifying this war?

Don't you find it odd that Haliburton is receiving contracts much larger than originally planned? And the fact that these contracts were no bid to begin with? Does this not absolutely reak of a humongous conflict of interest?

[EOTE]

10. I think the lies are fairly apparent.

It's been months since the end of the war and we haven't found an ounce of anything we came there expecting to find. Then of course there's the Niger references that the admin admitted shouldn't have been included in the SOTU. That's NOT insignificant. Here's the rundown of the SOTU;"Bla bla bla, chemical weapons, bla bla bla, gassed his own people, bla bla bla HE'S SEEKING URANIUM AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO BLOW US ALL UP WITHIN 45 MINUTES!!!!!". Guess which part they lied about? And don't think that was the only lie in the SOTU. Just what has been found in the months after the war that has even come close to justifying this war?

Don't you find it odd that Haliburton is receiving contracts much larger than originally planned? And the fact that these contracts were no bid to begin with? Does this not absolutely reak of a humongous conflict of interest?

[EOTE]

13. Ugh...

Is there something wrong with the forums today? I tried posting the same damn thing and it gave me an error every time. I finally refresh, see three posts and I can't delete them because it says my editing time has expired. It was only like 5 minutes ago.

[leftchick]

12. What Lie?!?

Take your pick of lies coming from that uspurping piece of dreck squatting in the white house. If you have not been paying attention the justification for this illegal invasion has changed almost daily and none of it was true.

[mazzarro]

14. You seem to be visiting from the planet Mars!

That is why you indicate your unawareness of the so many lies preceeding the illegal war!

[kentuck]

15. We do support the troops ...

But there are some things that are more important than a few troops dying. It is important that we stay the course. We should never admit that we were wrong. We should never entertain the thought that the rest of the world was right. We must stand behind the incompetent leadership that got us into this mess. It is more important that we save the political viability of George W Bush than it is to save the lives of young American troops.

We all support our troops and sincerely feel for their families but it is more important that we support George W Bush and financial assets of Dick Cheney. Let's not kid ourselves. If those liberal Democrats get back into office, there's no telling what dire deeds will befall our country.... <sarcasm off>

[Old and In the Way]

17. Sink.....sorry, no sale.

It was Bush, clearly, that had to have this war. He distorted CIA/DD intel to make a case for this war. He very much wanted it for a variety of reasons...primarily economic (oil and balance of trade), political (PNAC/mid-terms and a distraction from the root cause of terror-9/11), and social ( a bone to the RW/American firsters).

He most certainly could have squahed the whole run up to the war with a very simple speech telling us that it was not necessary....certainly the 10s of millions who protested would have agreed with that.

How many American's wanted this war? I saw various pro-war rallies, the most prominent in Washington, DC...a whooping 30 people rallied for it.

Really, you are either uninformed or a cynical pro-Bush operative...what'll it be?

[kentuck]

18. Right on! For 12 years, the Congress and Senate had time to make case

for war with Iraq...And none of them thought it necessary until Numbnuts saw the opportunity in the WTC disaster. Then they all of sudden became converts. Actually, he had been planning it before the WTC, it has been reported.

[DemNoir]

5. This war

Has had an unusally high number of "flesh wounds"

[nostamj]

11. if they don't die...

... then "the wounds were not life-threatening"

even if they end up blind quadruple amputees...

[John_H]

20. It's odd but there is a fairly standard "death' to "wounded" ratio

which has heald true in nearly every conflict since the gov started to keep detailed records in the civil war, and it's about 10-1. By that measure we can figure about 2500 soldiers have been wounded.