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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:42 PM
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For questions about the DRAFT: Go to the Blatant Truth.org for Answers
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 02:44 PM by Dems Will Win
http://www.blatanttruth.org/draft.php

BUSH SKILLS DRAFT AND COMBAT DRAFT ALERT

Read the FOI doc received from the Selective Service, the agenda of their meeting with the Pentagon!

This is NOT the Rangel Bill from 2003, this is RECENT!



PRINT THE FLYER: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:54 PM
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 04:31 PM
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2. Kick-This is important
If you haven't yet passed along this information to everyone on your e-mail list, please do so. I have been passing out the flyer to all who are interested.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 04:35 PM
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3. Why are DUers Gripped with such DRAFT HYSTERIA?
I don't see why Bush would re-instate it if he won a second term. Evil asshole he is, he is first and foremost a political opportunist, and to bring back the draft would be POLITICAL SUICIDE.

Why would he hand such a winning issue to the dems in 2008? Think of all the money his people would be losing if a dem got in office, I would imagine he'd want to do everything he can to prevent that, and bringing back the draft isn't the way to accomplish that goal!

The republican's goal is to keep the american public as far away from the iraq disaster as possible, and bringing back the draft, which is going to drive the issue home with all americans, just isn't the way to keep the public stupid and liking it.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:36 PM
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4. I have been researching this since November and you're dead wrong
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 06:38 PM by Dems Will Win
First read this: http://www.blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

ACTUAL BUSH SSS ACTIVITY TOWARD A 2005 DRAFT


  1. Could draft MEN ONLY for combat, 18-25 (Current law)

  2. "Groundwork being laid" (SSS Spokesman Amon) for a NON-COMBAT SKILLS DRAFT, men and women age 18-34. 2-year process to gear up SKILLS DRAFT started nearly 2 YEARS AGO in Feb. 2003, meaning a skills draft would be ready in 2005. (a new law wuold be passed if Bush gets back in)

  3. The MEDICAL DRAFT registration data collection is also going to be readied for operational use in 2005 by using the SKILLS DRAFT work they've done and make the reg card you'd fill out at the Post Office contain all the listed medical skills. This means the Medical draft would be ready in 2005, men and women age 20-44. (This draft like the current combat draft for men 18-25, is already the law of the land)

  4. The secret agenda of the SSS/DoD meeting actually proposes being able to call a SKILLS and MEDICAL DRAFT WITHOUT calling a combat draft. Then they actively started designing it.




SKILLS DRAFT AND NEW COMBAT DRAFT TIMELINE

Feb. 11 2003 - Top-level meeting between the head of the SSS and Deputy Undersecretary Abell in charge of Personnel and Readiness of the DoD on the SKILLS DRAFT. This is the meeting of the secret Issue Paper, revealed by the Freedom of Information Act in May. The SSS goes back encouraged enough to do some more planning.

Summer 2003 - Drive to start filling DRAFT BOARD vacancies by asking current board members to find new ones.

Fall 2003 - DoD announces critical skills shortages in linguists, computer experts and engineers. SSS Director Brodsky orders the designing of the SKILLS DRAFT procedures, the reg card and the massive database needed to track every young American under 35 and their skills. Brodsky, who "plays" JE McNeil and other anti-draft leaders by calling them regularly and shmoozing them, lies to McNeil telling her that in February of 2003 the SSS had to "justify their existence" before a hostile committee--when in reality the SSS and DOD were having the SKILLS DRAFT meeting and he himself had just started designing the new system and making it his top priority.

Sept 2003 - Draft board recruitment ad goes up on Web.

November 2003 - Draft board ad scrubbed!

Dec. 2003 - Brodsky announces the SKILLS DRAFT to be the "top priority' of the SSS in newsletter and tells of rapid progress to come.

March 13, 2004 - Word of SKILLS DRAFT leaks out in a SF Chronicle story and the SSS admits it and tells reporters it’s just a planning contingency. In an attempt to throw the press off, the SSS also says it would take 2 years to gear up and work out the kinks for the SKILLS DRAFT and that there is no funding for it. Eric Rosenberg, the reporter on the story, finds out about the Feb. 11 meeting Issue Paper and files a Freedom of Information Act request to get it.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/03/13/MNG905K1BC1.DTL


May 1, 2004 – Article on SKILLS DRAFT leaves out key points of how skills conscription would be expanded to fill labor shortages throughout Dept of Homeland Security, 1/3 of government, how the SKILLS DRAFT can be called without a combat draft, how SKILLS INDUCTEES will be inducted within a mere 90 days of reauthorization, that the SSS wanted to “promptly” change the very MISSION of the SSS and so on. The article does, however, reveal many major point of sweeping plan. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Sept 13, 2004 – Issue Paper agenda memo of key Feb 2003 meeting posted on the Web at http://www.blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf sample:
"while a conventional draft may never be needed, a draft of men and women possessing these critical skills may be warranted in a future crisis if too few volunteer."

2004 – MOCK DRAFT LOTTERY HELD, SAMPLE MEDICAL EXAM REPORT ORDERS ISSUED TO MAIL LIST. Alternative Service geared up for first time in 31 years! Papers to place Conscientious Objectors with employers actually drawn up. SSS brought up to 95% operational capability, full Medical draft capability set for 2005, all DRAFT BOARD vacancies filled by Spring 2005! On March 31, 2005, the SSS Director must report to the Congress that the entire system is primed and ready to open 2,000 draft board offices and start inducting within 75 days, or June 15, 2005.

BUSH ’04 = DRAFT ‘O5

“There will be no draft when John Kerry is President.” - John Edwards




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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:43 PM
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5. THen why did Rove poll the GOP Caucus in Fall 2003
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 06:43 PM by Dems Will Win
about the DRAFT and THE REPUBLICANS SAID THEY WOULD REINSTATE THE DRAFT IF BUSH ASKED FOR IT!


-SNIP-

For example, last fall, Presidential advisor Karl Rove polled Republican members of Congress on how they felt about he draft. They said they’d support the president.

-snip-

http://www.gjusa.com/news/pressReleaseDetails.jsp?id=4141

Next you'll try and gently persuade us that Bush doesn't plan to invade more countries...

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY 'O4 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:47 PM
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6. In my opinion...
....there will be a draft.

However, one statement of yours really caught my attention and if you could please explain it I'd appreciate it.

You said....Evil asshole he is, he is first and foremost a political opportunist, and to bring back the draft would be POLITICAL SUICIDE.


I don't think Bush will have a political career after he leaves office, so I don't understand why it would be political suicide. He has nothing to lose, by reinstating the draft. We know his girls won't be called up.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:32 PM
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9. He would want to hand the presidency to another Republican...
and that is why he wouldn't want to piss people off, to give his successor a fighting chance
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:10 PM
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10. we have no concept about what war is all about
if we push Bush's agenda hard enough in the ME we may start seeing more death and destruction in attacks on our own homeland. Contrary to popular thinking about Bush, our borders and ports of entry are not being protected well enough. Such death and destruction will only make the populace angrier, and naturally we will start pouring more resources into the War. By this time, the draft will be accepted and taken for granted. Serving in the War will become one's duty.
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JudasBetrays Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:11 AM
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16. Starting the war in Iraq should have been political suicide
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:57 PM
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7. GAWD DAMMIT I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like I will have to work for the DoD.

I fall in the:

Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the whole government, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

Reduce induction time from being able to deliver all inductees in 193 days down to just 90 days for skills inductees.



Motherfuckers, I have severe problems with this whole thing...............:grr: :mad:!
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:00 PM
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8. KICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STILL PISSED OFF EXCUSE ME

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:37 PM
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11. 34?! They really need people, don't they?
If they need a database administrator, sure. I suppose it's a niche skill even though it's an overcrowded field. :shrug:

But I do have health problems, which makes me a less than ideal troop. :-( (for the right reasons I'd happily defend my country, no argument there.)
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:47 PM
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12. Sorry, no medical deferments for the SKILLS DRAFT
UNless you are talking officially disabled.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:23 AM
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:43 PM
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17. Kick
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