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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 08:31 AM
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The Bush Administration's fingering of Arabs as the culprits of 9/11
reminds me of two cases in the past ten years.In the first, a man from Boston named Charles Stuart after having killed his pregnant wife claimed that he made the wrong turn into a ghetto where some black thief held them up and killed his wife.He even had some knife slashes to show that he was wounded when trying to protect his wife.The entire police force was mobilized and they set out a big dragnet for every black man in Boston.This entire story unraveled when one of Stuart's relatives caught on to his game and proved to the police that Stuart killed his own wife and to cover himself concocted this story.

In the second case, a young wife called Susan Smith from a town in South Carolina killed her two young children by pushing her car into a lake and claimed a black man carjacked them at knife point and drove away with her children.Her story also unraveled when it was revealed that she wanted to marry a rich man's son and was intent on getting rid of her children in order to make herself more appealing to the man.

The incessant repetition of the 'terrorists' as bogeymen reminds me of these stories not to mention the many inconsistencies in the official storyline.Any one else feel the same way?The key here is the appeal to our prejudices which makes it impossible for us to see through the fog and get at the underlying truth.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 08:34 AM
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1. cowboys dressing up like indians and killing settlers to set off a war
old western movie scenario
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 08:52 AM
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3. The Boston Tea Party-goers were dressed as aborigines.
:shrug:
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 08:34 AM
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2. The Republicans are now using the "black bogeyman" again too...
They are using a Willie Horton character to show that Kerry will let black men rape and kill your family and Al Sharpton to scare 'em even more.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:01 AM
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4. Someone else is being fingered. His initials and location are both D.C.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:21 AM
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5. The 2 cases you cite, are completely accurate,
but what the heck do they have to do with 9/11 & Arabs?

I know there are inconsistencies in the 9/11 story, & no, I do not believe the entire story has been told.

But do you believe there weren t 19 highjackers from the Middle East, with the majority of them being Saudi Arabian?

Was Bin Laden lying when he took credit for 9/11?

Bob Graham, the one Democrat, who probably knows more about 9/11, than most people in Congress, has a new book out & it connects the Saudi govt to the event.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:31 AM
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6. All I am saying is I am not sure at this point.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:45 AM
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24. When did OBL take credit for 9/11?
Do you have a link?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 12:21 PM
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25. It's hard to believe that people are still believing the "fat Osama" video
That CIA actor clown resembled Osama about as much as I resemble the Easter Bunny.
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kerrywins Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:31 AM
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7. White people are scared of anyone
who's not white...
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:34 AM
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8. If one goes strictly by evidence, it should be the other way around,
shouldn't it?
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kerrywins Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:39 AM
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9. people have hatred towards those they fear...
....
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:44 AM
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10. You're frigging retarded if you think that muslim men didn't hijack those
planes and fly them into the pentagon and WTC. Beyond paranoia.

Yeah, it's so likely that they were remote controlled and the New World Order had a missle launcher super-glued to the belly of the plane the night before, and what, young republicans hi-jacked the planes? Cubans? Corsicans? Redneck Malitiamen?
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:49 AM
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11. Let us just say I have my doubts about the official version of events.
The examples I cited were just to show how our prejudices can be played upon to induce fear in us and make it impossible for us to keep an open mind.
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kerrywins Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:51 AM
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12. you make some really well thought out points...
this is the first I have heard about it...and I must say...I was taken a back with the arguements you presented...
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:56 AM
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14. As Democrats our fidelity to truth must set us apart from the Republicans.
Keeping an open mind and not accepting anything from the powers that be is a prerequisite.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:58 AM
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16. Your requirement is impossible.
"Keeping an open mind" and "not accepting anything from the powers that be" are contradictory.

The second requirement requires a closed mind.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:01 AM
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19. You may want to read up about a program called Total
Information Dominance conceived by Don Rumsfeld which allows the
"Powers that be" to seize control of the zeitgeist.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:54 AM
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13. Then where are the 19 men?
Ever seen Capricorn One? Remember the end scene, where James Brolin comes running up in slow motion?

Why haven't any of the 19 men shown up on television with a passport photo to prove the hoax?

And what level of proof do you require? What would convince you that a group called Al Qaeda pulled off 9/11?

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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:57 AM
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15. Often conspiracy theories reverse the process.
They often require someone to "prove" that something didn't happen - not that it did. In fact that's my definition of a conspiracy theory - the only "acceptable" form of response is to do the impossible: disprove a negative.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:59 AM
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18. no kidding
I can't tell you how many folks on BOTH sides have said "Well, can you prove it DIDN'T happen?"

Logic often goes on vacation when politics comes to town.
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:59 AM
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17. All I can say at this point is I am not sure.It seemed to me that
the official version of events was counting on our prejudices to make their story stick.Apparently they have succeeded,as I can see.

BTW, welcome to DU.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:03 AM
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20. hold on
All you can say is that you're not sure, but you toss in that little zinger about "apparently they've succeeded?"

Sounds like you're VERY sure at this point. In that case, who did it, and what's next? And why, if all your examples have to do with white folks framing black folks, didn't 9/11 get pinned on them?
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Veggie Meathead Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:09 AM
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21. It wouldn't matter to me if a black person pulled off a similar con
job using a white person as the scapegoat.It is the underlying prejudice that I am trying to point out that serves the interests of the people who set out the "facts".We should be aware of their motives before we accept their version is all I am trying to say.
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YoQuieroLiberty Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:16 AM
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22. that's sort of fair
I firmly believe that we know who did it.

I turn off when they start trying to tell us WHY they did it, and what it means, because to me THAT's where the lying, distorting, and self-interest comes in.

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Orangeone Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:20 AM
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23. but don't you

Think that it's suspicious that the gov knew everything about the hijackers, their names etc, but couldn't stop them?
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