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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:30 PM
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CBS News: Spy in the Pentagon? (Highest Levels)
on now
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:31 PM
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1. lol
Rumsfeld can't do anything right.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:11 PM
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48. Here is the link: FBI Probes Pentagon Spy Case




FBI Probes Pentagon Spy Case

Aug. 27, 2004



(Photo: CBS/AP)



The FBI believes it has "solid" evidence that the suspected mole supplied Israel with classified materials that include secret White House policy deliberations on Iran.

The FBI investigation is headed by Dave Szady. (Photo: CBS)


(CBS) CBS News has learned that the FBI has a full-fledged espionage investigation under way and is about to -- in FBI terminology -- "roll up" someone agents believe has been spying not for an enemy, but for Israel from within the office of the Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon.

60 Minutes Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports the FBI believes it has "solid" evidence that the suspected mole supplied Israel with classified materials that include secret White House policy deliberations on Iran.

At the heart of the investigation are two people who work at The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a powerful pro-Israel lobby in Washington.

The FBI investigation, headed up by Dave Szady, has involved wiretaps, undercover surveillance and photography that CBS News was told document the passing of classified information from the mole, to the men at AIPAC, and on to the Israelis.......

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:31 PM
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2. Wow, someone who had influence on the Bush Admin!
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 05:32 PM by Cush
Influence on foreign policy, spying for Israel
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:35 PM
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9. Gee, what a surprise.
The Pentagon Cabal were all rabid Zionists and pushing the PNAC and the war against Iraq for the main benefit of Israel. I'm just shocked that it's taken mainstream news this long to notice.

I've said for a long time that the "intelligence" the OSP was pushing was 50% from Iraqi defectors with grudges and 50% from Israeli agents.

That they've found one within that group is just no surprise at all.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:44 PM
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23. No, but the fact that they are reporting it IS. (nt)
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:32 PM
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3. I am not at a tv
is it Chalabi?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:33 PM
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4. for israel
in the sec. of defense's office. surprise, surprise /-sarcasm-/
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:33 PM
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5. my money is on Wolfwowitz
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 05:33 PM by syrinx9999
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:35 PM
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10. Don't think so
CBS said the person had close ties to both Wolfowitz and Feith. I summarized the 'clues' they gave out in reply#7.

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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:43 PM
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21. yeah I spoke a little too soon
Sounds big though.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:36 PM
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12. It could have been any of them.
The list is so long.

Another name for the pardon list.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:39 PM
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16. Perle?
nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:55 PM
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66. I think Wolfowitz is one of them...here's why
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 09:55 PM by notadmblnd
A while back I read a book called "Profits of War by Ari Ben-Menashe. He was an Israeli intelligence officer in the 80's and he was charged here in the US with illegal arms dealing and acquitted. I want to post an excerpt of his book page 174/174 regarding Johnathan Pollard.

"With a number of supporters behind them, North and Nir next set about trying to wreck the original channel and destroy Likud's credibility in the United States. According to Nir, they came up with the idea of leaking the old spy network Rafi Eitan had set up in the United States. The North group was careful not to implicate any high-level Americans involved, but they did reveal that Johnathan Pollard, a junior civilian analyst with the U. S. Navy, was a paid spy for Tel Aviv. Also exposed with the young dupe were Pollard's wife, Anne Henderson-Pollard, who was working with him, and an Israeli Air Force Officer, Col. Aviem Sella, a nuclear targeting expert.

The reason no one higher up was exposed was obvious. One of the top officials working with Pollard was a man referred to in the subsequent hearings, in which Pollard pled guilty, as Mr X- actually Robert McFarlane, who was now playing such an important role in setting up Norths second channel. McFarlane, in fact, had been providing computer access codes of intelligence reports to Rafi Eitan in Israel, according to Eitan. sitting in Tel Aviv, Eitan would request computer codes for certain items he was interested in. A LAKAM representative in Washington, a woman named Iris, would pass the request to McFarlane. He would then give her back the specified access codes. She would give the codes to Pollard who was working for the Navy. Pollard would call up the information on the computer, print it on paper, then take the paper out of the office for the night. He would photocopy them, give copies to Iris, then return the originals to the office the next day. The purpose of all the to-ing and fro-ing was to distance McFarlane from Pollard, who in all likelihood, had no idea himself that McFarlane was a middleman."



I posted this because it occurred to me that this scenario might be playing out now. It's bugging me why this was leaked before any arrests. I tend to believe Pat Buchanan's statement on MSNBC that the story was leaked to shutdown the investigation. It will be interesting to see who takes a flight to Israel soon.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:33 PM
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6. Could be working with AIPAC (Israeli think tank)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:36 PM
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13. CBS said the person funneled the information through AIPAC
So I'd say, yes, people at AIPAC were involved.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:03 PM
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32. COOL! Kerry can tout the fact that he has no long standing TIES to AIPAC
I don't know if they have given in the pres election to him but as a senator he took NO AIPAC money!!!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:34 PM
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7. Watching it
Who do you think it is?

It's a 'high ranking defense department analyst' at the Pentagon. Has close ties to both Wolfowitz and Feith, and was in a 'special group charged with Iraq war strategy'. Sounds like the OSP.

Who do you think?

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:36 PM
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11. couldnt be much clearer than that! they should just give the initials
and be done with it
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:40 PM
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18. It could be Richard Perle
Not sure if they stated whether the person was currently drawing a government paycheck or not.

He fits the rest of the description, and I think he's been suspected of this before.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:41 PM
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20. what is Perle's middle name? It'd be funny if it were Isaac..
or something with i... Then his initials would be R.I.P.
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MattPSU Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:12 PM
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38. Perle at it again?
Paul Findley, in his book They Dare to Speak Out wrote that "An FBI summary of a 1970 wiretap recorded Perle discussing classified information with someone at the Israeli embassy..."

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/richard_perle.htm">http://www.oldamericancentury.org/richard_perle.htm

I just can't figure out if he lobbies for AIPAC.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 09:02 AM
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72. Hi MattPSU!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:17 PM
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40. yeah perle among the usual suspects. what about cambone
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:40 PM
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17. Rumsfeld?
if only.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:07 PM
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36. OSP...
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:04 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
sounds like it to me. Didn't they change their name recently? Something like the Iraq Working Group?

I just sent out my site newsletter tonight -- and what was featured in it? The OSP and how it was used to gin up the evidence for Bush to invade Iraq.

What timing. :)

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On Friday, July 7, the Senate Intelligence Committee released its final report on their investigation into pre-invasion Iraqi intelligence information. In the report, the panel concluded the CIA "provided false and unfounded assessments of the threat posed by Iraq that the Bush administration relied on to justify going to war."

But this report only covers half of the true story. Due to the insistence of the Republican members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, an investigation into the White House's role in the gathering and use of Iraqi intelligence information was NOT allowed. Instead, the matter is to be covered in a separate report, due to be published after the 2004 election.

Those who have been following this story closely know that this second investigation has the potential to reveal the whole truth, and could help finally expose the circumstances that drove the US to war.

In this edition of the Do You Know Update, we'll focus on this question, taking a look at the Office of Special Plans and its hand in the invasion of Iraq.

Office of Special Plans

Here are four excellent articles and reports on a secret Pentagon intelligence group set up by Donald Rumsfeld in October of 2001. The purpose of the Office of Special Plans (OSP) was to gather data from various intelligence sources and create the evidence that George W. Bush needed to convince Americans of the need to invade Iraq. The articles cover the formation of the OSP, the manipulation and subversion of the CIA's intelligence data by the group, and the use of OSP material by George W. Bush to convince Americans that invading Iraq was necessary.

"The Spies Who Pushed for War", by Julian Borger
http://www.doyouknow.org/cgi-bin/r/r.cgi?k=1087

"CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat", by Jason Leopold
http://www.doyouknow.org/cgi-bin/r/r.cgi?k=1088

"Selective Intelligence", by Seymour M. Hersh
http://www.doyouknow.org/cgi-bin/r/r.cgi?k=1089

"Office of Special Plans," Right Web Profiles
http://www.doyouknow.org/cgi-bin/r/r.cgi?k=1090


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And from the Right Web site:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/govt/osp.php
...
This “cabal” did not operate in complete isolation from other government agencies. However, it worked almost exclusively with like-minded neocon political appointees in the National Security Council, the State Department, and the office of the vice president. NESA and its subproject OSP maintained close relations with the Defense Policy Board, whose members were picked by Feith and approved by Rumsfeld. Initially chaired by Richard Perle of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the DPB was as nest of neocon and other rightists--including such figures as Elliot Cohen, Newt Gingrich, David Jeremiah, Kenneth Adelman, and James Woolsey. Perle, who stepped down as chairman (but remained on the board), had served as Feith’s mentor during the Reagan administration.

...The day after the September 11 attacks Wolfowitz authorized the creation of an informal team focused on ferreting out damaging intelligence about Iraq. This loosely organized team soon became the Office of Special Plans (OSP) directed by Abram Shulsky, formerly of RAND and the National Strategy Information Center (NSIC). The objective of this closet intelligence team, according to Rumsfeld, was to “search for information on Iraq’s hostile intentions or links to terrorists.” OSP’s mission was to create intelligence that the Pentagon and vice president could use to press their case for an Iraq invasion with the president and Congress.

...The OSP played a key role in providing Rumseld, Cheney, and the president himself with the intelligence frequently cited to justify the March 2003 invasion. By late 2003 the OSP was closed down, having accomplished its mission of providing the strategic intelligence cited by the administration in the build-up to the invasion. OSP’s staff and operations were folded back into the normal operations of the NESA and into its Office of Northern Gulf Affairs.

Right Web connections to the OSP:

Ahmad Chalabi
Richard Cheney
Douglas Feith
Newt Gingrich
William Luti
Donald Rumsfeld
Abram Shulsky
Paul Wolfowitz
Project for the New American Century
National Strategy Information Center


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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/schulsky/schulsky.php


Abram Shulsky, a Leo Strauss scholar and intelligence expert associated with the Project for the New American Century, is best known for his work in the Office of Special Plans, a secretive intelligence outfit in the Pentagon that was charged with digging up information on Iraq that would support the administration's arguments for going to war. According to an expose by the New Yorker's Seymour Hersh, the Office of Special Plans, which was conceived by Paul Wolfowitz and began its work soon after the 9/11 terrorists attacks, "has brought about a crucial change of direction in the American intelligence community. These advisers and analysts . . . have produced a skein of intelligence reviews that have helped to shape public opinion and American policy toward Iraq. They relied on data gathered by other intelligence agencies and also on information provided by the Iraqi National Congress, or I.N.C., the exile group headed by Ahmad Chalabi." (1)

By late 2002, says Hersh, the Office of Special Plans had overshadowed the C.I.A. and the Pentagon's own Defense Intelligence Agency, the D.I.A., and become Bush's main intelligence source on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and on Hussein's alleged Al Qaeda connections. Hersh continues, "Although many people, within the Administration and outside it, profess confidence that something will turn up, the integrity of much of that intelligence is now in question.

...The director of the Special Plans operation is Abram Shulsky, a scholarly expert in the works of the political philosopher Leo Strauss. Shulsky has been quietly working on intelligence and foreign-policy issues for three decades; he was on the staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee in the early nineteen-eighties and served in the Pentagon under Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle during the Reagan Administration, after which he joined the Rand Corporation. The Office of Special Plans is overseen by Under-Secretary of Defense William Luti, a retired Navy captain. Luti was an early advocate of military action against Iraq, and, as the Administration moved toward war and policymaking power shifted toward the civilians in the Pentagon, he took on increasingly important responsibilities." (1)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/schulsky/schulsky.php


And from The Nation back in June of 2003:


http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20030707&s=dreyfuss

As the Pentagon scours Iraq for weapons of mass destruction and Iraqi links to Al Qaeda, it's increasingly obvious that the Bush Administration either distorted or deliberately exaggerated the intelligence used to justify the war against Iraq. But an even bigger intelligence scandal is waiting in the wings: the fact that members of the Administration failed to produce an intelligence evaluation of what Iraq might look like after the fall of Saddam Hussein. Instead, they ignored fears expressed by analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the State Department who predicted that postwar Iraq would be chaotic, violent and ungovernable, and that Iraqis would greet the occupying armies with firearms, not flowers.

Not surprisingly, perhaps, it turns out that the same people are responsible for both. According to current and former US intelligence analysts and government officials, the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans funneled information, unchallenged, from Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who in turn passed it on to the White House, suggesting that Iraqis would welcome the American invaders. The Office of Special Plans is led by Abram Shulsky, a hawkish neoconservative ideologue who got his start in politics working alongside Elliott Abrams in Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson's office in the 1970s. It was set up in fall 2001 as a two-man shop, but it burgeoned into an eighteen-member nerve center of the Pentagon's effort to distort intelligence about Iraq's WMDs and terrorist connections. A great deal of the bad information produced by Shulsky's office, which found its way into speeches by Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, came from Chalabi's INC. Since the INC itself was sustained by its neocon allies in Washington, including the shadow "Central Command" at the American Enterprise Institute, it stands as perhaps the ultimate example of circular reasoning.


"The same unit that fed Chalabi's intelligence on WMD to Rumsfeld was also feeding him Chalabi's stuff on the prospects for postwar Iraq," said a leading US government expert on the Middle East. Says a former US ambassador with strong links to the CIA: "There was certainly information coming from the Iraqi exile community, including Chalabi--who was detested by the CIA and by the State Department--saying, 'They will welcome you with open arms.'" Rumsfeld's willingness to accept that view led him to contradict the Chief of Staff of the US Army, who predicted that it would take hundreds of thousands of troops to control Iraq after the fall of Baghdad, a view that seems prescient today.

According to the former official, also feeding information to the Office of Special Plans was a secret, rump unit established last year in the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel. This unit, which paralleled Shulsky's--and which has not previously been reported--prepared intelligence reports on Iraq in English (not Hebrew) and forwarded them to the Office of Special Plans. It was created in Sharon's office, not inside Israel's Mossad intelligence service, because the Mossad--which prides itself on extreme professionalism--had views closer to the CIA's, not the Pentagon's, on Iraq.

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Forgot about this from Karen Kwiatkowski:


"In early winter, an incident occurred that was seared into my memory. A coworker and I were suddenly directed to go down to the Mall entrance to pick up some Israeli generals. Post-9/11 rules required one escort for every three visitors, and there were six or seven of them waiting. The Navy lieutenant commander and I hustled down. Before we could apologize for the delay, the leader of the pack surged ahead, his colleagues in close formation, leaving us to double-time behind the group as they sped to Undersecretary Feith's office on the fourth floor. Two thoughts crossed our minds: are we following close enough to get credit for escorting them, and do they really know where they are going? We did get credit, and they did know. Once in Feith's waiting room, the leader continued at speed to Feith's closed door. An alert secretary saw this coming and had leapt from her desk to block the door. "Mr. Feith has a visitor. It will only be a few more minutes." The leader craned his neck to look around the secretary's head as he demanded, "Who is in there with him?"

This minor crisis of curiosity past, I noticed the security sign-in roster. Our habit, up until a few weeks before this incident, was not to sign in senior visitors like ambassadors. But about once a year, the security inspectors send out a warning letter that they were coming to inspect records. As a result, sign-in rosters were laid out, visible and used. I knew this because in the previous two weeks I watched this explanation being awkwardly presented to several North African ambassadors as they signed in for the first time and wondered why and why now. Given all this and seeing the sign-in roster, I asked the secretary, "Do you want these guys to sign in?" She raised her hands, both palms toward me, and waved frantically as she shook her head. "No, no, no, it is not necessary, not at all." Her body language told me I had committed a faux pas for even asking the question. My fellow escort and I chatted on the way back to our office about how the generals knew where they were going (most foreign visitors to the five-sided asylum don't) and how the generals didn't have to sign in. I felt a bit dirtied by the whole thing and couldn't stop comparing that experience to the grace and gentility of the Moroccan, Tunisian, and Algerian ambassadors with whom I worked."

__________________________________
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.

In 1996, he and Richard Perle - now an influential Pentagon figure - served as advisers to the then Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu. In a policy paper they wrote, entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, the two advisers said that Saddam would have to be destroyed, and Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would have to be overthrown or destabilised, for Israel to be truly safe.

The Israeli influence was revealed most clearly by a story floated by unnamed senior US officials in the American press, suggesting the reason that no banned weapons had been found in Iraq was that they had been smuggled into Syria. Intelligence sources say that the story came from the office of the Israeli prime minister.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:44 PM
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43. But with OSP 'shut down' you may want to look at Feith's other op:
The Counter Terrorism Evaluation Group--since CBS says this person is still there.

These are all similar mixes of people, with pro-Israel policy and all the other neocon goods.

Look at these two particularly: Michael Maloof and David Wurmser

David Wurmser, a neo-conservative, who was a "special assistant" to John R. Bolton at the State Department<1> and a former research fellow on the Middle East at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) <2> has been moved (in early September 2003) to the office of the Vice President Dick Cheney and I. Lewis Libby, replacing in this job, Eric Edelman.

Wurmser has long called for the United States and Israel to work together to roll back the Ba'ath-led government in Syria. For the latter part of the 1990s, he wrote frequently to support a joint U.S.-Israeli effort to undermine then-President Hafez Assad in hopes of destroying Ba'athist rule and hastening the creation of a new order in the Levant to be dominated by "tribal, familial and clan unions under limited governments".

Indeed, it was precisely because of the strategic importance of the Levant that Wurmser advocated overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in favor of an Iraqi National Congress (INC) closely tied to the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan.
"Whoever inherits Iraq dominates the entire Levant strategically," he wrote in one 1996 paper for the Jerusalem-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS). <3>and<4>
Wurmser has written extensively (books and articles) on the Middle East. His credits include: Wall Street Journal, Wall Street Journal Europe, Washington Times, Weekly Standard, New Republic, SAIS Review, Middle East Quarterly, Perspectives on Political Science, Strategic Review, Jobs & Capital, and The World and I.

He was director of Research in Strategy and Politics Program at the Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies (96), director of Institutional Grants at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (94-96), and project officer at the United States Institute of Peace (88-94).

David Wurmser is married to Israeli born Meyrav Wurmser who, as head of Middle East studies at the neo-conservative Hudson Institute, was the main author of a 1996 report by a task force convened by the IASPS and headed by Perle, called the 'Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000'.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=David_Wurmser

(But he left for Cheney's office, that points to Maloof who I'm looking up now.

Also, this will probably shed some light on how Chalabi blew up so spectacularly. I'd bet this person fed him the stuff that ended up in Iran, after he was making noice at CPA about not allowing 'the new' Iraq to consort with Israel.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:49 PM
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44. Disinfo page on that: Counter Terrorism Evaluation Group
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 06:52 PM by Snazzy
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Counter_Terrorism_Evaluation_Group

Reported to Cambone--those two guys only, which I mentioned above.

Also note:

Risen says that "The failure to find such weapons in Iraq has prompted a series of investigations into prewar intelligence. The Senate committee plans to complete its review, including its examination of the Feith group, in the next few months. The unit has often been confused with another Feith operation, called the Office of Special Plans, which Pentagon officials say was involved in prewar planning but not intelligence analysis."

Which is true. OSP used State's INR for analysis initially. They fired them, no analysts. CBS says mole is an analyst.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:06 PM
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46. I thought OSP hadn't really shut down...
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:16 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
just changed names. I'll dig around.

Oops. It was in the info I posted above. Folded back into the NESA and the North African group.

Dis site says Counter Terrorism Evaluation group shut down Februury at this year.

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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:23 PM
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50. Yeah, probably most are still there
Same deal with the other group I'm looking at. Said to have shut in Feb '04, but I think (haven't confirmed) Maloof is still at DoD.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:37 PM
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52. Org chart w/names from Fieth's office
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:43 PM by Snazzy
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:44 PM
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53. NYT Graphic--Feith's connections
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:36 PM
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70. What a nest of vipers.
This group is in bad need of some karmic whiplash
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:29 PM
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51. Senate Intelligence Committee Rockefeller/Roberts split
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:42 PM by jmcgowanjm
This is it. You're right on top of it, Hell Hath No Fury.
I've got some readin' to catch up on, here.

PeakOil is coming sooner and faster.

DC is literally running out of oil to grease the skids.
And if we don't invade Iran next year, we'll be
paying for Iraqi oil in Euros. Pick one.
No wonder America's getting meaner by the day.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4451206,00.html


http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/082304_million_depletion.shtml

So Buckle up, Buckaroos and Get 'Er Done!
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:43 PM
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42. Michael Ledeen or Michael Rubin
Derived from a quick Google (AIPAC+Iran+OSP).
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:53 PM
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58. Perle
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:35 PM
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8. Now THAT could be some actual
plate tectonics.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:37 PM
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14. hmmm.... ya think?
I thought JMM was going to break it though.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:38 PM
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15. In an attempt to flush out this spy, the US and England are putting their
best men on it.

Agent Maxwell Smart and Johnny English.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:40 PM
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19. No it's Sydney Bristow, all the way.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:04 PM
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35. Our man
Flynt
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argonne Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:43 PM
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22. Lesley Stahl said she tried to call "the spy"
on the phone this afternoon but he didn't answer.

Why won't she tell?

CBS too cute.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:49 PM
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26. Who knows? probably some legal reason they can't give his (her) name
But no matter what, this is huge.

And coming just before the RNC???

This could really help us out a lot. If the general public is forced to acknowledge that the Bush Administration's foreign policy, which is intricately connected to, if not simultaneous with, his precious baby "War on Terror," was actually formed in large part to be advantageous to Israel, and not the U.S., he'll have *nothing* to run on.

How can * say that we're safer when we can't even find spies in our own Pentagon?
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:03 PM
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33. Hmmmm
The fundies all want us to be on Israel's side for the Apocalypse, though....
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:46 PM
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24. Spy = liberal
WARNING!! There may be a liberal Democrat lurking in the Pentagon!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:47 PM
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25. Abram Shulsky ? ...
Cambone ? ...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:52 PM
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27. Dov Zakheim?
DoD Statement on Jack Shaw and the Iraq Telecommunications Contract
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=743997
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:49 PM
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45. My first guess, too
He also resigned his post as Pentagon Finance Minister back in March of this year, without much of an explanation, except that he was "tired."

He sat at the right hand of Howling Wolfowitz and Rummy and was an associate of Perle.

And Chalabi is tied in with this too....


Sorry -- I disagree that this is not a big story -- this is a very big story. They will fight with everything they have to kill it, but clear illegalities are involved.

Aside: if Bush is (re)-elected -- he will be impeached for this. This is going to be part of his disgraceful legacy.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:06 PM
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47. Zakheim is already under investigation
Analysis: Defense budget practices probed
Thursday, 02-Oct-2003 10:00AM PDT Story from United Press International
Copyright 2003 by United Press International (via ClariNet)

MIAMI, Oct. 2 (UPI) --

Zakheim said, however, he was limited in his response because of the ongoing audit of the issue, which originally was sparked by a telephone call to the Pentagon's Defense Hotline.


"Our objective will be to review the allegations to the Defense Hotline concerning funds 'parked' at the U.S. Special Operations Command by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)," said a letter from the inspector general's office to Gen. Charles Holland, who has since retired as Special Operations commander.

Among several documents The St. Petersburg Times obtained during its investigation was e-mail sent by Special Operations Command Comptroller Elaine Kingston to colleagues in February 2002.
She said an unidentified official in the Pentagon comptroller's office had asked her if the command could "park" $40 million of research-and-development money in its proposed budget for the 2003 fiscal year.


The programs where the money was placed included missile warning systems on aircraft, infrared equipment on helicopters and radar system. The amounts ranged from $2 million to $5 million.
Kingston said in the e-mail message she coached her colleagues on how to account for the money and avoid attracting congressional attention to it.

"We are doing a favor for the OSD (Office of the Secretary of Defense) which we hope will benefit the command if we should need additional (research and development funds)," the message said.
Young said at the hearing on President Bush's request for $87 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan Tuesday that he wants to know if it is a common practice.

Young is clearly not finished and called it "an obvious attempt to keep from Congress what was happening. I think that would make you suspicious. It makes me a little suspicious."

more
http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/dp/Uus-defense-young-analysis.RUt1_DO2.html


Pentagon finance manager resigns

Thursday 11 March 2004

Rabbi Dov Zakheim's refused to tell journalists the exact reason for his departure on Wednesday. A former adjunct economics professor at New York's Yeshiva University, Rabbi Zakheim has spent more than 30 years working in various jobs at the Pentagon.

But he has also worked in private industry, specifically as a consultant to McDonnell Douglas and Boeing.


Rabbi Dov Zakheim,
Pentagon comptroller and chief financial officer, a conservative Republican who graduated from Jew's College in London in 1973, Zakheim first joined the Department of Defence in 1981 under former president Ronald Reagan.

He was responsible for such tasks as preparing defence planning guidance for nuclear war.

As Pentagon Comptroller and Chief Financial Officer, Rabbi Zakheim's priority has been financial management.
But that does not include additional spending needed to support US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - a sum expected to range from $30 billion to $50 billion.


A General Accounting Office report found Defence inventory systems so lax that the US army lost track of 56 aeroplanes, 32 tanks and 36 Javelin missile command launch-units.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/635B6007-9DD0-436C-BFF6-E6521520B1C7.htm


:hi:chookie

have you seen this
DoD Statement on Jack Shaw and the Iraq Telecommunications Contract
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=743997
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:45 PM
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55. fascinating
Thanks for the link.

Also kinda interesting that Tenet only disappeared after the raid on Chalabi's compound in Baghdad. Chalabi complained that Tenet was out to get him. Perle publically denounced the allegations against Chalabi -- and that's when Tenet was fingered for being the fall guy/bad guy who hadn't done enough to prevent our purehearted president from seeing being false intelligence.


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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 09:08 AM
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73. seemslikeadream
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.

Thank you.


DU Moderator
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:15 PM
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49. $2.3 trillion Where is it Zakheim? You should know
Dov S. Zakheim to Resign from the Department of Defense
March 24, 2004
In this position, Zakheim initiated an enterprise architecture to achieve a vision of simpler budget processes, activity-based costing, and a clean audit by 2007. He oversaw three Department of Defense budgets, each totaling more than $300 billion, and recently proposed a 2005 budget of $401.7 billion. He played a leading role in raising in excess of $13 billion for the reconstruction of Iraq, and walked through six wartime supplementals in support of operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. He further created the Defense Business Board and worked closely with the Office of Management and Budget and the Government Accounting Office on financial management affairs.

“I am proud to have been part of President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld's senior Pentagon team for the past three years,” said Zakheim reflecting on his tour. “It has been an exhilarating, albeit extremely demanding experience. Even as we have addressed the many concerns arising out of the War on Terror and Operations Enduring Freedom, Noble Eagle and Iraqi Freedom, including winning both military and financial support from the international community for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, we have also tended to ongoing budget needs to support our forces and defense civilians at home and abroad. We have also made great strides in rectifying the department's antiquated financial management system; we continue to anticipate that DoD will receive clean audits in the not too distant future.”

Regarding Zakheim’s resignation, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said, “Dov Zakheim has been a cornerstone to the Department of Defense over the past three years. He has been a leader in helping transform the Department to better address the needs of the 21st century. I thank him for his commitment and his counsel. He will be missed.”

Zakheim was sworn in to his current position May 4, 2001. Prior to that, his government service included a number of key positions, to include from 1985 until March 1987, as the deputy under secretary of defense for planning and resources in the office of the under secretary of defense (policy). He also held a variety of other Department of Defense posts from 1981-1985 and served with the National Security and International Affairs Division of the Congressional Budget Office.

During other periods of Zakheim’s career, he served as a senior foreign policy advisor to then-Gov. Bush, during the 2000 presidential campaign. Prior to that, he was the corporate vice president of System Planning Corporation (SPC), a technology, research and analysis firm. He also served as chief executive officer of SPC International Corp., a subsidiary specializing in political, military and economical consulting.

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+story...

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service.

Minnery, a former Marine turned whistle-blower, is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agency's balance sheets. Minnery tried to follow the money trail, even crisscrossing the country looking for records.

"The director looked at me and said 'Why do you care about this stuff?' It took me aback, you know? My supervisor asking me why I care about doing a good job," said Minnery.

He was reassigned and says officials then covered up the problem by just writing it off.

"They have to cover it up," he said. "That's where the corruption comes in. They have to cover up the fact that they can't do the job."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/m...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:58 PM
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59. Ah, the missing trillions.
Most underreported story of this century.

70 years of health care for every American.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:30 PM
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69. Jews brainwashed Bush? What a joke!'
Four years ago, when Zakheim was on presidential candidate George Bush's foreign policy planning team, he told Haaretz the U.S. did not need to play policeman around the globe, and that American military involvement overseas should be reserved for extreme situations, such as the prevention of genocide.

............

From the time when reports about the Bush administration's intention to go to war started to circulate, critics have charged that Jewish neoconservatives in the Pentagon were responsible for dragging the U.S. into war with Iraq, with the intention of protecting Israeli, not American, interests. Proponents of this claim hail from all parts of the political spectrum, starting with arch-conservative Pat Buchanan, and continuing with two Democrats from Capitol Hill, Congressman Jim Moran (Virginia), and Senator Friz Hollings (South Carolina).

"Pat Buchanan, in my view, is an anti-Semite," said Zakheim. "I'm sorry, but you cannot keep saying what he says, and say he's not an anti-Semite. He is an anti-Semite. I know one when I see one."

..........

Alongside such claims about corruption in Saddam Hussein's regime, Zakheim brings up the issue of terror. Given Saddam Hussein's well-known support for Palestinian suicide bombers, "why is it so hard to believe that he had ties with Al-Qaida," Zakheim wonders. "If you make the connection - Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, terrorism - then it definitely becomes a world problem," he concludes.

.........


Israelis who worked with Zakheim are full of praise for his professionalism. Though he always upheld American interests, they say, he had a warm place in his heart for Israel and he did as much as he could to help. For instance, after the start of the intifada, when it became clear that Israel's police force lacked equipment to defuse bombs, Zakheim found funds, and arranged a transfer of $28 million for automatic gear used by sappers. Zakheim is proud of his close relations with many Israelis - recently his son was married in Jerusalem, but at the time, a stepson who went on a photo-shoot in Hebron was beaten by settlers.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/441712.html



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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:54 PM
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28. They gave Israel classified information on our policy in Iraq
CBS sources say that last year the suspected spy, described as a trusted analyst at the Pentagon, turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was, "in the draft phase when U.S. policy-makers were still debating the policy."

This put the Israelis, according to one source, "inside the decision-making loop" so they could "try to influence the outcome."

The case raises another concern among investigators: Did Israel also use the analyst to try to influence U.S. policy on the war in Iraq?

With ties to top Pentagon officials Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the analyst was assigned to a unit within the Defense Department tasked with helping develop the Pentagon's Iraq policy.

More

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:59 PM
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30. Someone in OSP...
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 06:02 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
or the Defense Policy Board.

Oh Mr. Perle, is that you????

Didn't Richard Perle work for Israel at one point and write a big policy paper for them that is spookily like the PNAC documents?

Tinoire -- WHERE ARE YOU!!!!


On edit: Just wanted to add that anyone who didn't know this was going on is crazy.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:45 PM
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54. Operation Clean Break-Justin Raimondo
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:50 PM by jmcgowanjm
"A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm."
This was a collaborative effort by Richard Perle, James
Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith,
Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav
Wurmser – a good number of whom are now ensconced in
high positions in this administration. The paper outlined for
then Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a new Israeli
strategic vision that would not only rid the Israelis of
their Palestinian problem, but give them "breathing space"
and revitalize the Zionist dream of a Greater Israel:


http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j091903.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 05:56 PM
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29. lol -- quelle surprise!
whoever it is they aren't alone -- especially w/ this admin.
nobody in their right mind doesn't think wolfowitz doesn't spill the beans to israel -- whoever else it is has company.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:00 PM
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31. Winds of Change:Troubled Waters Ahead For the Neo Cons
by
Wayne Madsen

The neo-con attack on Shaw was predictable considering their previous attacks on Ambassador Joe Wilson, his wife Valerie Plame, former U.S. Central Command chief General Anthony Zinni, former counter-terrorism coordinator Richard Clarke, former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, CIA counter-terrorism agent Michael Scheuer (the "anonymous" author of Imperial Hubris who has recently been gagged by the Bush administration), fired FBI translator Sibel Edmonds (who likely discovered a penetration by Israeli and other intelligence assets using the false flag of the Turkish American Council and who also has been gagged by the Bush administration), and all those who took on the global domination cabal. But Shaw showed incredible moxie. When he decided to investigate Pentagon Inspector General Reports that firms tied to Perle and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz were benefiting from windfall profit contracts in Iraq, Shaw decided to go to Iraq himself to find out what was going on. When Shaw was denied entry into Iraq by U.S. military officers (yes, a top level official of the Defense Department was denied access to Iraq by U.S. military personnel!), he decided to sneak into the country disguised as a Halliburton contractor. Using the cover of Cheney's old company to get the goods on Cheney's friends' illegal activities was yet another masterful stroke of genius by Shaw. But it also earned him the wrath of the neo-cons. They soon leaked a story to the Los Angeles Times claiming that Shaw actually snuck into Iraq to ensure that Qualcomm (on whose board sat a friend of Shaw's) was awarded a lucrative cell network contract.

But nothing could be further from the truth. Shaw, who worked for Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, represented the Old Guard Republican entity that in August 2003 set up shop in the Pentagon right under the noses of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Feith to investigate the neo-con cabal and their illegal contract deals. The entity, known as the International Armament and Technology Trade Directorate, was soon shut down as a result of neo-con pressure. Not to be deterred, Shaw continued his investigation of the neo-cons. Although the neo-cons told the Los Angeles Times that the FBI was investigating Shaw, the reverse was the case: the FBI was investigating the neo-cons, particularly Perle and Wolfowitz, for fraudulent activities involving Iraqi contracts. And in worse news for the neo-cons: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was giving the Inspector General's and Shaw's investigations a "wink and a nod" of approval.

The financial stakes for the Pentagon are high - the Iraqi CPA's Inspector General recently revealed that over $1 billion of Iraqi money was missing from the audit books on Iraqi contracts. For Shaw and the FBI, it was a matter of what they suspected for many years - that Perle, Wolfowitz, and their comrades were running entities that ensured favorable treatment for Israeli activities - whether they were business opportunities in a U.S.-occupied Arab country or protecting Israeli spies operating within the U.S. defense and intelligence establishments.

Shaw certainly must have recalled how, during the Reagan administration, an Israeli spy named Jonathan Pollard was able to steal massive amounts of sensitive U.S. intelligence over a long period of time and hand it over to his Israeli control officer, a dangerous and deadly agent provocateur named Rafael "Rafi" Eitan. That had disastrous effects on U.S. intelligence operations throughout the world because some of the documents were handed by the Israelis to the Soviets in return for letting more Soviet Jews emigrate to Israel.

more
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081104_winds_...


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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:50 PM
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56. Hey seemslikeadream, could you help me out on this one?
How exactly is this bad for Bush?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:59 PM
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60. Because this wasn't just a 'spy' in the sense of listening in
This mole seems to have been involved in actual policy making on Iraq and Iran at the highest levels. That's worse than just a passive 'spy' like Pollard or Hansen.

Given that this is the SECOND apparent mole involved in policymaking on Iraq (Chalabi spying for Iran being the first), this makes Bush administration look like a bunch of real rubes, if you ask me.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #56
63. Let's continue with Madsen
Plame


Fitzgerald continues to expand his case against the leakers of Plame's identity. But he may be getting more than he originally bargained for. As his investigation expanded into the bowels of the Pentagon, he was bound to discover that the treachery of the neo-cons was not merely confined to the leaking of the name of a covert CIA officer - disastrous in itself - but coupled with other activities that call into question the loyalties and financial dealings of those who swore an oath to the U.S. Constitution.

With Ashcroft's deputy, James Comey, the person who appointed Fitzgerald, finding himself increasingly frozen out of Ashcroft's inner sanctum deliberations, it is clear that the neo-cons are worried about what Fitzgerald is discovering and how far his investigation will go. Also unusual was the fact that as Fitzgerald's case began to gain steam - with George W. Bush and Dick Cheney both retaining criminal defense attorneys - FBI Director Robert Mueller suddenly transferred the lead FBI agent on the Plame case, John C. Eckenrode, a well-seasoned 29-year veteran of the bureau, to head up the FBI's Philadelphia office. An FBI spokesman in Philadelphia said that such sudden transfers, in the middle of major investigations, sometimes, just "happen."


Make no mistake about it: the violation of the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 by the disclosure of Plame's identity and that of her non-official cover corporate umbrella organization (Brewster, Jennings & Associates) along with its official counterpart, the CIA's Nonproliferation Center - had a disastrous impact on the ability of the United States to track the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction around the world. At least one anonymous star (representing a covert U.S. agent killed while working abroad) placed on the CIA's Wall of Honor during the past year was reportedly a direct result of the disastrous disclosures from Cheney's office. The political vendettas of the neo-cons in exposing Plame's dangerous work and retaliating against Wilson's revelations about Bush's use of bogus intelligence regarding a fanciful Iraqi uranium shopping spree in Niger ensured that America's military-intelligence complex was going to seek a final accounting with the neo-cons. And a final accounting they are getting, in spades.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081104_winds_...


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:20 PM
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64. And from the same article - SO NOW IT IS PAYBACK TIME

Adding insult to injury, neither the CIA nor FBI were happy that Israeli spies operating under the cover of Israeli "art students' and moving van operators, and who were picked up by federal agents and local "first responder" law enforcement officers before and after 911, were quickly deported by immigration officers before they could be fully interrogated. The penetration of FBI and other federal law enforcement data networks and databases by Israeli software and telecommunications companies working under U.S. government contracts has also left a bitter taste in the mouths of federal law enforcement and intelligence personnel.

So now, it is payback time. The recent arrest warrants issued by the Iraqi government for Ahmed and Salem Chalabi (Ahmed's for counterfeiting Iraqi dinars and Salem's for murdering an Iraqi Finance Ministry official) indicates that Shaw's instincts about the fraud engaged in by them and their neo-con friends in the Pentagon were right on the money. Let us ponder that news again: the lead prosecutor against Saddam Hussein murders an official of the Iraqi Finance Ministry - an individual that just may have known something about what happened to $1 billion in missing Iraqi revenues. The accused is a partner of an Israeli-U.S. lawyer who is a close colleague of leading neo-cons in the Pentagon (some of whom are also dual U.S.-Israeli citizens) and the nephew of a man who was supported bureaucratically by a former CIA Director (James Woolsey), financially by hundreds of millions of dollars from the budget of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and politically by a think tank (AEI) that includes the wife of the Vice President of the United States. Uncle Ahmed was also a personal guest of George W. and Laura Bush in the VIP box at the 2004 State of the Union address. The President and First Lady welcomed a person who now is now an accused criminal to America's State of the Union address, a person whose nephew is now an accused murderer! John Le Carre could not have come up with a better international thriller scenario.

The recent decision by the chief judge in the Plame leak to order NBC's Tim Russert to testify about just who it was at the White House that contacted him about Plame's identity, while troubling for First Amendment freedom of the press protections, is an indication that time is growing short for the leakers. Three months before a U.S. presidential election, that could be a crucial windfall for John Kerry and the Democratic Party.

more
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081104_winds_ ...


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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:04 PM
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34. Hardball is covering it too!
Give em hell...even with Pentagon Pete Williams reporting....
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:07 PM
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37. Is there really any doubt who Wolf, Pearle and Feith serve?
traitors, everyone of them!
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:16 PM
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39. Rumsfeld has been 'made aware of the case'
So I guess it's not him?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 06:17 PM
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41. There are several spies in the civilian "leadership" of the Pentagon.
All the PNACers there are openly double agents of the Israeli Likud party, and helped the Likud government draft their plans (very similar to the PNAC agenda) in the mid 90's.

Scoop Jackson fired Perle and Wolfowitz from his staff for passing top secret documents to Israel over 30 years ago. Neither of them should have ever held a position in US government again.

Nothing these fucking treasonous pieces of shit do could possibly surprise me.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:52 PM
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57. I think there was a Robert somebody
who went to Rome around the same time that the forged papers were passed to the people who passed them to the U.S. Anybody remember his name?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:10 PM
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61. I'd love to see some links for that -
the info re Scoop Jackson and treason. Not that I don't believe you, just that I'd love to see the documentation added to this thread (which is getting added to MY stash of various kinds of fascinating and horrifying information).

TIA
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:41 PM
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62. yep, we need sources
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 08:42 PM by lwfern
I'm searching around - a quick search turned up a summary that we can use to track down other more reputable sources at least: http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C177199123/E1213917410/

and this: http://www.aaiusa.org/wwatch/051301.htm

Is that all part of what Sibel was talking about?
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:18 PM
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67. Me too, Eloriel! We need those links!
I had no idea that Jackson fired them OR that he got them on links to Israel. Infuckingcredible!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:33 PM
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65. Two questions
1) Who was the highest ranking US official every convicted of spying?

2) Has the US ever been duped before into waging a preventive war based on disinformation?

Its the incompetency, stupid!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:21 PM
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68. All sorts of people in our government working for Israel. Is this new in
some way?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 10:42 PM
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71. Whomever was responsible hooked Ol' George and pulled him thru the water
like a big ol' carp....They must have known he was a kindred soul to old War Daddy Sharon, and would be easy pickings...They finally found their sucker...er...carp...
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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 09:14 AM
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74. I don't know about this...it's fishy
I mean, it's entirely too conveinent! Bush Admin: See, It's not our fault! We were duped!

,,and it breaks right before the convention!
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