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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:43 PM
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What do Republican voters stand for?
Lower Taxes?

Banning Gay Marriage?

Banning Abortion?

Allowing religion to dominate the country?

What do regular Republicans stand for that makes them vote against their interests?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:45 PM
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1. And
WAR
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:48 PM
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2. Even the Christians who claim to want peace?
The ones who condemned Clinton's efforts in Kosovo? Yet backed Bush on Iraq?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:03 PM
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8. they only condemned that because Clinton supported it
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:50 PM
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3. Greed, Hatred, Selfishness and Intolerance
I could go on, but that pretty much covers it.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:52 PM
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4. They don't know. They are stupid, mindless tools.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:59 PM
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5. I was talking to a GOP-voting coworker today...
He is some species of evangelical Christian.

He says he cannot vote for Bush because of the jobs situation, but that he cannot vote for a Democrat because they are "Immoral" !!!

I'm just not getting it.
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mindem Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:59 PM
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6. Plutocracy..........N/T
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:01 PM
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7. Nothing, their views are as flexible as Nazis or Commies
As with deficits, the ONLY thing required to get a Bushevik to change his views is for Their Masters to tell them through Party Media.

That's it, and nothing more.

Of course, not all Republicans are Busheviks, but all Busheviks are Republicans.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:05 PM
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10. Except Zell Miller.
Though he is a NRINO (Non-Republican In Name Only).
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passthecorn Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:04 PM
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9. I don't understand these threads
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 05:04 PM by passthecorn
I like them, but I don't understand them.

It seems like that the initial intent is to understand those with whom you disagree but they quickly explode into "They" are evil and stupid and other permutations on those two ideas.

Help me, are these pleas for insight or excuses to vent? Again, I like them either way.


On edit: pesky question mark
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:06 PM
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11. What do you think?
Do you have any insights?
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:26 PM
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17. Many of the insulting posts in topics such as this are
made by people who have hit an intellectual brick wall. They see the hypocrisy and stupidity as insurmountable mountains blocking the progress of humanity.

They are right, and I certainly hit that wall occasionally, but I'm working on tunneling underneath it. Pick up your shovel and join the underground.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:07 PM
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12. They don't vote "for" anything
They vote against.

The conservative meme-machine trots out lies concerning the liberal candidate like, "if you vote for the democrats, your church will have to have gay weddings".

Joe Sixpack will "think" I can't vote for that, I have to vote for Dubya.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:10 PM
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13. so many of them just honestly
believe that saddam was a "bad man" and we did the right thing. many people are dead set on this issue, and will not hear any argument that does not support it.

many are the religio-crazies that vote repub because they swallowed that family values crap hook line and sinker. these are the folks who think pro-choice is wrong, stem cell research is wrong and bush is a man of god, just cause he says he is.

there are the republicans who pay absolutely ZERO attention to any of it, and vote repub because they ALWAYS vote repub, and their parents vote repub and their parent's parents vote repub and their parent's parent's parents voted repub...

then there are the guns-n-god republicans that just think they are so much more macho than the pussy dems. these are the types that will usually give you the finger as they pass you on the road because of your kerry sticker. these people just beggin' for trouble and "politics" is just an excuse.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:12 PM
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14. Depends on which republican...
Some of them want people to work and to get good jobs.

It's strange how that party works and how those who want people to have good jobs side up with those who take the jobs away.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 05:13 PM
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15. white power.
white, male, rich, heterosexual, christian power.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:08 PM
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16. Tax Cuts
it's the issue that holds all the parts of the party together.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:33 PM
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18. Different Republicans vote for different reasons
like with Democrats.

There are some who vote for Republicans on social issues - evangelical Christians and others who believe in "traditional values."

For some it is because they are really conservatives, by which I mean they are ideologically on the right. They legitimately believe in small government, less taxes, etc. (these are the ones most likely to be mad at Bush!)

For others it is in their self-interest - the wealthy.

For yet others, it is simply because they have been fooled by Republican lies about Democrats, or as we see now, those who believe they "will keep us safe."

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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:39 PM
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19. Republicans are THE MAJORITY among white voters in Presidential
elections, and have been so ever since 1968. The last Democratic Presidential candidate to win a majority of white votes was Lyndon Johnson. This fact indicates that racial fears are at the heart of American voters' love affair with the GOP. But these racial fears mainly stay hidden in racially-coded discussions of guns, "crime", religion in public life, and other Republican demagoguery.

Racial fears play big but rarely-mentioned roles in many of the key "social issues" Republicans exploit. They use racially-charged hot-buttons to get the majority of whites to vote against their own economic interests. For instance, why do Americans love guns? "Bowling for Columbine" pointed out that the ghetto rebellions of the 1960s caused explosions in gun ownership and gun demand, city by city as African-Americans rebelled against police brutality. To understand Republican voter psychology, just follow the fear.

The strong correlation between attending church regularly and voting Republican also has a strong racial component. Martin Luther King often said that "11am Sunday morning is the most segregated hour of the week", and there's no indication what he said forty years ago is any less true today. Republican courtship of the religious right with "school vouchers" and other subterfuges for taxpayer funding of churches would help ensure racial separation of future generations, in racially exclusive churches and in racially pure church-run schools.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:36 PM
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20. Themselves
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:38 PM
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21. M-O-N-E-Y. n/t
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:45 PM
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22. GREED!!!!!!!!
They only use Abortion and Gay Marriage as a tool to keep the Christan Right in line!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:47 PM
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23. empty rhetoric
is about all I can discern
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:42 AM
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24. fear
Fear of change.

Fear of openness.

Fear of intelligence.

Fear of anything that would challenge their already-formed opinions.

Fear of people who don't look or talk like them.

Fear of anything new.

Fear that their fantasy of "the way things ought to be" is a delusion, and a fear that they are actually stupid.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:52 AM
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25. "Stop F*cking this instant, and put some clothes on!"
n/t
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:51 AM
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26. Decency and morals
that's what they will say. I know this guy who has a bumpersticker on his truck that says "Bring back morality, vote republican". :puke:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:55 AM
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27. Hypocrisy, bigotry and the almighty dollar
nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:08 AM
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28. hypocrisy (#1 IMO)
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 04:11 AM by fujiyama
Ranting about freedom, yet having no problem in restricting any freedom and then claiming it's for national security purposes...or better yet, as long as the freedom doesn't offend their religious sensibilities. Or freedom is good, only if it's in the form of tax cuts!

#2 Greed

"OMG the democrats are going to raise taxes!!!"

religious fanaticism

"Gays will move into my neighborhood and try to convert my kids to their depraved lifestyle"

stupidity

Some people ultimately vote for the stupidest reasons:

"I don't like Kerry's hair"

"Kerry looks too much like the guy from the Adam's family"

"Kerry looks French"

"Kerry's too rich"

"I don't like his wife - she's too foreign. She's too rich. She has an accent"

Bush's BS masculinity

Bush is strong on terror (nevermind he's given Pakistan and SA a free pass on everything and they are the two greatest sponsors of terrorism).

I think I've heard a variation of the above.
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