Condi: Even if Chavez democratically elected he's not legitimate

[FullCountNotRecount]

Paraphrased headline: "Just because someone is democratically elected doesn't mean they are legitimate."

Yes, my fellow Americans, Condi said this last year in reference to Chavez.

She must be pulling her hair out.

[AFSCME girl]

Hmmmm...

Imagine that..:grr: B*shco make me sick!

[lottie244]

17. She must have meant, "Just because someone is appointed, doesn't mean

they are legitimate." She must be talking about Bush.

[AFSCME girl]

23. Exactly!

Is that ironic or what?!
:eyes:

[Lucky Luciano]

1. That paraphrased quote applies well to our country as well!

I wonder what the origin al quote said! It would make a good tagline!

[mitchtv]

2. white is black.. Condi

ao if you are appointed, then you are legit?

[Mandate My Ass]

3. Considering that she spends most of her time

promoting the lie than an unelected fraud is legitimate, this statement is not as outrageous as it appears on its face. :crazy:

[seemslikeadream]

4. Haiti

n/t

[non sociopath skin]

5. And they're still saying it ...

... a scared white American guy on BBC News tonight said (no kidding) "just because Chavez is popular and democratic doesn't make him a good president."

The Skin

[gasperc]

6. ok she needs to be fired yesterday

what the fuck

[Catfight]

7. Commie Rice would know more about illegitmate elections than Katherine

Harris! Where has Commie been these days anyway? I was just wondering where the liars have all gone too lately? Dumbsfield, Cheneygangbang, Wolfanimwit, where are they?

[Generator]

8. Just because someone is "National Security Director"

doesn't mean she knows shit.

[nolabels]

18. Sometimes it don't matter what they know, only what flag they sail under

http://www.bloodforoil.org/

http://www.rtgstore.com/pirateflags.htm

[Union Thug]

9. What the hell does that mean?

Democracy is not legitimate?? Someone please translate this bizarre doublespeak for me. Even from a Stalinist/Bush perspective it fails to make much sense.

[LibertyorDeath]

10. She is a truly Sickening piece of work.

Is that from the preamble to Fascism 101

She makes me :puke: :puke: :puke:

[realFedUp]

11. maybe she means....

one needs to get the rubberstamping of
5 Supreme Injustices first...

[genius]

12. I can think of some names for her but I can't say them in public.

[rocktivity]

13. Well, she ought to know!

rocknation

[yellowcanine]

14. I am convinced Condi's foreign policy savvy is overrated. After all, the

only evidence we have thus far is the say so of Bush - how much is that worth? She certainly hasn't demonstrated much understanding of other countries. I understand that her "claim to fame" is as an "expert" on the Soviet Union. Well that's certainly germane to the situation today, isn't it. As for her supposed brilliance - again we only have the word of Bush on that as well - for what it's worth.

[HawkerHurricane]

15. Dear Condi

You are not helping your cause.

[Fluffdaddy]

16. Right she is

Just like 2000

[AntiCoup2K4]

19. I'm keeping this Kindasleeza quote on file

In the event that Junior actually wins the election (as opposed to steals or cancels it) I will drag it out DAILY.

Bush will NEVER, under any circumstances be a legitimate president, even if he won by an actual landslide. Thanks Condi! :hi:

[Commendatori]

20. All hail Condi

She really needs to STFU. I luagh when I hear Republicans say she'd be a good candidate in 2008.

PLEASE, Republicans, run her. PLEASE.

[Mojambo]

21. What an awesomely ironic quote!

I love these people so much!

[noiretextatique]

22. these folks are NOT shy about showing their true colors

fascists to the core, and completely lacking shame and conscience. not too mention intelligence.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

24. You have to consider it in the proper context.

What we are talking about here is diplomatic relations between the United States and a South American nation. In that context, the term "legitimate", as applied to a governmental regime, has a very special and unique meaning. Specifically, it means "willing to stab one's own people in the back and cut lucrative deals with American energy, pharmaceutical, and munitions companies". Now, I barely know anything about Mr. Chavez myself, but judging from the following he's built on DU, I'm guessing he doesn't meet this particular definition of legitimacy.

[madfloridian]

25. Many of our Democrats do not have a good stance on Chavez, either.

Seems to be a bipartisan issue about him.

[Zorra]

26. This does not appear to be a statement made by Rice.

This statement, according to this NYT article, appears to be made by an "administration official". It is possible that Rice made a similar statement, or that she is the unnamed "administration official" that made this statement, but I could not find evidence of this. I believe that this is the quote in question:

April 16, 2002
Bush Officials Met With Venezuelans Who Ousted Leader
By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS
snip-------
Asked whether the administration now recognizes Mr. Chávez as Venezuela's legitimate president, one administration official replied, "He was democratically elected," then added, "Legitimacy is something that is conferred not just by a majority of the voters, however."

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=008m8D

This is a very informative article on the attitude of the Bu$h administration concerning Chavez, Venezuela, and democracy.

In light of recent events in Venezuela, it's a real hoot!

Viva Chavez! Viva la gente de Venezuela! Viva Democracia!

And f*ck the corpzi Bu$h administration.

[kohodog]

27. And BunnyPants wasn't elected so...

I guess that makes him legitimate?

These people have noi shame and no use for democracy. Impeach the whole lot.

[calimary]

28. No, she's probably trying out her reaction comment for November 3rd.

That's how she and others will be trying to spin Kerry's victory.

[Cat Atomic]

29. Ever notice the people who talk about "spreading democracy"

seem to despise it?

[Larkspur]

30. But Iyad Allawi of Iraq is legitamate?

Only because Bush's crooks appointed him. That's what the Bush-cons mean by legitamate. When the people, in bushism that is "rabble", vote for someone other than who the Bush-cons support, the people's choice becomes illegitamate.

All I can add is that, should we vote out Bush in November, will Bush call his loss illegitamate?