Big Politician to Die and Then Terrorist Attacks (MSNBC)

[ItsMyParty]

Report very, very early this a.m. (est) on MSNBC...the yarn grows....for the first time, ever, I've lowered myself into the realm of conspiracy theories.

Their report was: the administration has now realeased info in addition to their spiffy, grand info that put NYC, NJ and DC on high alert (oh, you mean that 4 year old shit??!). They are now saying that they have info that the terrorists first will assasinate a "major US politician" and then launch a number of terrroist attacks.

Here's why I crossed the line when I heard this: I've know for years (like the rest of you) that this regime isn't a bunch of honest, but mislead dopes (i.e., "Mama, they gave me bad intelligence"). They are dirty, evil people who know EXACTLY what they are doing. The one thing I've said to friends and family (and a few times here) is that these slime hide "in the wide open". They don't try to hide. They do things "in your face" so that the general public would never conceive of them doing such things. When I heard this, I just got sick.

I had the sick feeling, in general, over the last few days of this "alert" that they are simply handing out the script to what they intend to do--not what some terrorist is going to do. With the addition of this information, I'm convinced of it.

As the "horror" happens, they can claim that they "warned" the nation because they were so wise and on the ball. I doubt they plan to kill Bush (unless it's a fake assasination attempt to get sympathy). Therefore, I'm scared to death for Kerry. They need to put mega protection around him and watch his appearances. I don't see any signs resulting from this so-called information, that the security around Bush is alarmed or that they have altered his campaign schedule. If they were really worried based on this "credible info", Bush would be in a locked bunker and not on the campaign trail (remember where the lilly livered coward was on 9/11--scared shitless and on the run). That's why I smell a rat. That's why I'm terrified that Kerry won't make it to November. Never in my life, nor my parents, nor my grandparents, have any of us ever feared our government..until now.

[amber dog democrat]

1. I don't think this is credible

It started in a Moonie newspaper, the Washington Times.
unless chimpie is planning something I don't see it happening.

[k in IA]

2. or else there could be a different way to get McCain as VP on the ticket.

:silly: Watch your back, Dick.

[Tight_rope]

45. Oh...I would love it if they took Cheney out. That scumbag. n/t

[blm]

3. Maybe Cheney volunteered to go into exile so they can fake an assasination

They are so mailciously oily anything is possible.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. i've been convinced of it since 2000...misery loves company WELCOME

[Windy]

5. Adjusting tin foil hat...

I have to be honest with you..the same thoughts crossed my mind.
Just the fact that anyone could even think those thoughts about the administration speaks volumes... :scared:

[acmavm]

7. You know, I'm embarrassed to admit it but sometimes I worry that if

Kerry and Edwards keep getting stronger poll ratings and if little bush*s poll ratings keep dropping, that they might do something like that to stop the election. I know that if I were to mention this to anyone I know, they'd think I was ready for a padded cell. But now that this story is coming out, it would be a perfect cover for doing just that.

Man, this government is hazardous to my mental health.

[OneTwentyoNine]

29. There WILL be a October surprise,you can bet on it....

What form it will take isn't known because the possibilities are endless. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past Chimp and his thugs,their losing and getting backed into a corner. It gets real dangerous when that happens.

David

[Bluebear]

6. This is where Bush has brought us.

To even have these thoughts is terribly sad. P.S., you are not alone, I am also now scared to death for Kerry, either that some wingnut will see his poll numbers and decide to do his own 'poll adjustment', or deeper and even more frightening scenarios involving the BFEE. And this is where the great "uniter" has brought us.

[ItsMyParty]

8. turkey--how about a "combined" scare

How much do you think it would take one of the regime's "operatives" to inspire a Tim McVeigh type to do the job......hence, totally no trail to the regime. I know a gun shop owner in my community who would do the job freely and with glee if a Bush operative talked to him and gave him a Kerry campaign schedule. I honestly think we will be gathered here on a horrible day in Sept. or October as the news breaks across the nation that Kerry either is dead or in grave condition............as the Wolfe's, the Tim's and the Chris' do the high five and put in for more pay to their corporate bosses.

[Bluebear]

11. It seems the Bush team is planting a lot of ideas.

Why would you even give publicity to such a ghoulish forecast. "The terrorists" plan an assissination. An "unnamed intelligence official" leaks it to the press. Even if it's true, why give credence, why plant seeds of suggestion to people? It's foolhardy and scary. Anyhow, keep thinking good thoughts.

[ItsMyParty]

16. Exactly, Turkey, exactly

those types of so called "info" add nothing to public awareness or preparation. Why the hell are they doing this?? Which of the dark, disturbed minions are they calling out to form the depths of hell to do their mission?? Why are they "promoting" all this..and that's exactly what they are doing. What really disturbs me is that, as far as I know, I haven't seen this mentioned in any other broadcasts. It's like they are just throwing it out to hopefully reach a Tim McVeigh...............god they are scum.

[thecrow]

53. The devil..... er, God.... made me do it.

That's the danger of the theocratic notion.

[Wind Dancer]

9. We can't forget what

happened to John F. Kennedy when he became a threat to those in power. I am suspicious of everything this administration says or does because of their history. I hate this feeling I have, it gets worse everyday.

[AntiCoup2K4]

10. Biblical tinfoil interpretation

It's been speculated often here that Junior could be the Antichrist. According to scripture, the Antichrist is attacked halfway through his 7 year reign with a "fatal head wound" that none the less he recovers from. Or so it would appear.... as many believe it is at that point when the "soul" of the Antichrist is replaced in his body by the indwelling of Satan himself. With Satan directly in charge, the second half of the tribulation becomes much worse than the first.

Now this scenario could very easily fit circumstances where Junior was killed, or almost killed, depending on how you want to look at it. No doubt that an immediate offensive would begin against Iran, Syria, or whoever they decided to blame for the hit on Junior. Which would ramp up "terra attacks" on the US whether authentic or otherwise.

Of course it would only be a matter of time before the truth of the PNAC-Likud-Mossad agenda became public knowledge and from there it's on to Ezekiel 38-39 and Armegeddon :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[ItsMyParty]

13. Anti-coup--forgive me for laughing

when I got to the head wound I just wanted to know what would be the difference between Bush with a "head wound" and the idiot we know today---hell, in his case, it might jump start what he has left of booze soaked material between the ears. No one would notice if he was mentally impaired---but then, again, maybe that's why he is ideal for this scenerio. May our Dems rot in hell for never speaking up to this unholy take over of our government!!!!!!!!!!

[TheCentepedeShoes]

23. When did * become Gov of TX

1994?? Plus 7 equals 2001. When did the "pretzel incident" occur? {help me here, I really don't remember).

[VolcanoJen]

12. When does the "follow-up" come?

No poison-pen terror attacks.

No model-airplane terror attacks.

No shoe-bomb terror attacks (and yet, I must walk barefoot thru airport security to this day. I hate to laugh, but it is a little bit funny to watch folks remove their shoes in the airport security line).

Where's the follow-up????

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. RFK revisited?

Like you, I am greatly worried about John Kerry and John Edwards. I wouldn't put anything past this group of criminals.

[Snoggera]

15. It's odd how they always broadcast their intentions

The PNAC website gives the outline, and their newspaper simply continues the horror story.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. I wonder if the Kerry/Edwards people

are pondering this? If they aren't, they should be. Think...Wellstone, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, and Carnahan.

I don't doubt for one second that this administration would kill Kerry or Edwards in order to retain power. Not one second.

[zeemike]

18. Nothing would surprise me

Because the RW has accepted the principle that the end justifies the means.
And this is odd when you think that it was a Marxist principle that they hated until just a few years ago. But they also understand Orwell and know that the hypnotized will accept anything if it is repeated enough in there head.
But don't be intimidated by those that make conspiracy theory's something to be laughed at. The same applies to the saying that just because you are paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get you.

[ItsMyParty]

19. zeemike--you know what really scared me??

It wasn't just the fear that this would happen. It's because I don't think that any but a handful of the people would EVER EVER blame Bush because "that's stuff evil countries and dictators do; not the lilly white US of A". I don't think any of them (like people who are wise in third world countries) would take to the streets, scream, go beat down the door of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and scream "Murderers; Traitors". These dumb animals would rally around Bush. More importantly, they wouldn't be as dump as they seem. They would (wink, wink) know and celebrate the death of the "bad guy". That is who we are. That is why the world needs to unite against what Bush has in mind for the planet. We are dirty, ugly, dangerous fucks.

[zeemike]

22. Orwell was the first to scare me

After reading his stuff I realized just how right he was, and just how easy it is to control the way people think.
But we are not all dangerous fucks. There are still many of us able to think clearly, and see through the doublespeak. But it remains to be seen whether or not we will prevail and take charge of government and our society. It will relay be on the shoulders of the next generation.

[LowerManhattanite]

20. I have had the same thought for the last few days...

...and didn't dare verbalize it. Apparently, the "elephant" (pun not intended) in the room has stepped on everyone's feet.

With freepers pledging to "off" UN observers and their rat-in-a-corner mentality coming to the fore as Bush seems adrift popularity-wise. (In addition to my seeing every day troopers patrolling the Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges, all of the lower Manhattan subway stations and my job leaving "emergency kits" on all our desks this Monday morning; dust mask, flashlight, alcohol swabs, bandages, mini-radios, light sticks and packaged snacks and bottled water), nothing would surprise me. These massive Kerry rallies that thankfully skip this loyalty oath crap while good, are also the perfect cover for nefarious behavior. I'm not worried...I'M PISSED OFF!

This stinking convention'll be here soon and you know their folks'll have a few "agent provacateurs" out and about to foment trouble. These bastards are desperate—but we can't be afraid. Keeping the pressure on 'em could easily result in their getting sloppy and thus exposing themselves. Until they do, watch yer asses and as the late Michael Conrad said, "Let's be careful out there."

[Eurobabe]

21. no they'll waste Cheney, then run McCain

convenient, total sympathy ticket

[Walt Starr]

24. Actually, I fear for Barack Obama

He's got the profile and he doesn't have SS protection.

[Walt Starr]

25. Actually, I fear for Barack Obama

He's got the profile and he doesn't have SS protection.

[tkmorris]

54. I doubt Obama is a target yet.

WE know who he is, and he is beginning to tickle the pickled cerebral cortexes of the Great Unwashed, but he isn't well known enough yet. If he were shot tomorrow fully 90% of the American public would have no idea who he was. Having no SS protection makes him an intriguing target but it wouldn't be effective IMHO.

[Junkdrawer]

26. Hey Dubya: you know those "friends" you front for???

Looks like they may think you'd serve them better dead than alive.

Perhaps, it's time to drop a dime.

Wha'd'ya think? :shrug:

[Junkdrawer]

33. You know what they say: Go to bed with dogs, wake up with fleas...

A friend.

[Junkdrawer]

35. And that Cheney guy. Hardly says anything. Always hiding out...

at some "undisclosed location".

Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. Yeah.

You know what he's thinking?

"President Cheney. Got a nice ring to it. President Cheney"

Wise up. Turn state's before it's too late.

[Junkdrawer]

36. You know they laugh at you behind your back....

And wincing, always wincing when you speak.

And it's you they feed to the press, while they get to sit there looking all smug.

You know you can't trust them as far as you can throw the White House.

And, just as soon as they leave, out comes the books. And guess who's the butt of all the jokes?

Still think you're safe? Don't make me laugh.

[nefarious]

27. Read everything from these sources as disinformation

When they tell you a big politician will be assassinated, they want to divert your attention from what's really going on, and allow fear to grip the masses.

When I tune my tinfoil hat into the BFEE's undercurrents, I find the propaganda's intended to distract us from a gathering LIHOP II/ MIHOP II event... which will be predictably pinned on the work of evil Iranian terrorists. They harbor, we attack and take over. Remember Iran's 2.3 million barrel per day production that has had no international sanctions/ interruptions. It's a fully operational cash cow. At $42/ barrel, that's almost $100 million/ day that undesireable types are using to perpetuate terror (and nukular weapons).

What could a JR (Ewing type) do with a revenue stream like that?

Everything in politics happens for a reason

[LunaC]

46. There may be something to what you say.

They're notoriouis for bait and switch. Don't look at where they're pointing...look in the opposite direction, watch their other hand, then follow the money.

Pakistan had a big role in the 911 MIHOP (see The Whispering Campaign link below for details) so they're who I've been watching for clues of what may be in store. Funny that this recent spate of frantic new terror warnings comes from data supposedly confiscated in Pakistan. Funny that Pakistan's ISI has had a long-standing working relationship with the CIA. Funny that Cheney's protege/lapdog Porter Goss was just nominated as the new director of the CIA. Funny how all the peces fit.....

If it turns out that "a major politician" is taken out of the game, my concern would be for Edwards. My sense is that the Bush* admin is really intimidated by him for some reason.

[genius]

28. Is Bush planning to kill Kerry, Obama or some other Dem

and claim terrorist did it.

[farmbo]

30. Bushco will sacrifice Colin Powell...a "beloved " Republican...

Then appoint McCain to the Sec. of State position.

A grieving public will re-select Bush* by a 10% margin.

[Barret]

31. IF you are right

Isn't kerrys protection provided by the secret service? And doesn't the secret service answer to bush and others in the executive branch (many of whom are appointed by bush)?

I wonder if there will be another stand down order... this time to the secret service?

[cidliz2004]

42. Aren't those BLUE states?

for the most part?

[drdtroit]

48. Huh?

[cidliz2004]

49. IF THE THREATS ARE PRIMARILY TOWARDS THE

BLUE STATES, THEN THAT MIGHT SCARE PEOPLE INTO SUBMITTING TO GWB AND SWING THEM MORE TOWARDS RED. WHY ARE THE ONLY STATES (MOSTLY) ONES IN THE DEMOCRATIC COLUMN THAT ARE THREATENED. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT ELECT IT COULD BE A GOVERNOR OR ANOTHER SENATOR.

IN ANY CASE THE THREATS HAVE ALL BEEN MAINLY LOBBED AT THE BLUE STATES SO FAR.

[goforit]

32. I do agree they have something up their slimey sleeves, but,

Kerry would have to be the stupidest thing they could do.

It would make him a martyr and cause all to vote against
the Bush/Cheney satonic administration.
Even the Christians!!!!

[democratreformed]

34. Or could it be just to cover his butt for running to hide on 9-11?

He's already being criticized for inaction. Now, if he's criticized for running, he can say "Look, I really was in danger!"

I still wanna know if Bill Clinton (or Al Gore) are in danger. If this info is as old as the last info, I fear for one of those two! (he he)

[Unperson 309]

37. A Coward, But NOT Afraid!

That's why * scares me!

Think for a moment! On 9/11 pResident Goatse AND his Secret Service detail sit at ease in a classroom while the towers burn. Meanwhile, in DC, the Secret service leap on *CHENEY* like starving aphids and bear him tenderly to a "secure but undisclosed location".

Then Goatse flits around the country like Tallulah Bankhead on speed "HERE I am, dahhlings!!... no, HERE! Peekaboooooo! MISSED me again, my sweets! Ha!" and Chaindawg remains hunkered, bunkered and puckered! In a "secure but undisclosed location".

Did I mention Goatse's PLANE is WITHOUT fighter jet escort for half the day? "YOOOOO-HOOOOOOO Dahhhlings! Now I'm in *this* state! Now in that one! Catch me if you CANNNNNN!"

Now as I recall, Secret Service SOP is *NOT* to fling the Commander in Thief around the Friendly Skies! WHEN do you EVER remember ANY Prez being flown around like this? "Hi! I'm POTUS! fly ME, the Proud Bird With The Golden T(r)ail!!" To paraphrase a friend of mine "IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN!". Not if Goatse had even an INKLING he was in aNY kind of danger.

He was NOT! He knew it, Chaindawg knew it, the frickin Secret Service knew it! To me that UTTERLY damns him.

Fast forward to today and the intelligence that some high level government creature is "gunna git it, yeah he is!" and note... security around Goatse is NOT increased, he's not hunkered, bunkered and puckered....


You damn BET that Kerry is in danger!

And I'd bet you the danger is NOT from overseas!

As yesterday, so today. The hallmark of a serial killer is that he has recognizeable patterns of behavior. Goatbutt acted as if he had not a care in the world on 9/11 and he's acting that way today.

BTW, if you want to know what "Goatse" stands for, Google it! And you will SEE WHY I call him that! It's not work safe or child safe and it's pretty eXXXtreme. The URL is http://goatse.cx. and (to turn a phrase) it FITS! (Hell, ANYTHING would fit in THAT!) Google the word for more info on the old site that the URL mirrors.

H'mmm... link won't work... Google it and find the mirror site, the URL woin't print correctly for it.

309

edited to correct URL

[loudsue]

38. If ANYONE is killed, I'd bet 90 to 1 that it's a DEM.

Likely one who is in a position to turn one of the houses of Congress back to the Dems, if he/she isn't snuffed out. They did it to Wellstone, they'll do it to whomever.

:kick::kick:

[WinterStorm]

52. I wouldn't get on a Plane if i were Kerry or Edwards

:kick:

[Chango]

39. I got it!

Bush is going to fake his assassination on November 1, grab the sympathy vote, then make a miraculaous reappearance the day after the election.

[scottxyz]

40. "We're talking about planning at the screwdriver level"

Somehow that sounds just about right.

Bin Laden hints major assassination
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040811-123531-3824r.htm

I have one question though - since when does The Washington Times get these exclusive scoops from "US intelligence officials"?

[Behind the Aegis]

41. tinhats all around!!

This mis Administration has created real fear! Not with the stupid "terror" alerts, but with the misuse of power, the unapologetic lies, the willingness to sacrifice our men and women, and the overt bigotry.

I told my partner that I felt the "October surprise" would be the resignation of Chaney "due to health" and wanting "to be with his family (a la Tenet)" and then announcing McCain as the new VP. Reading this thread, I could see an "assassination" coming into play! I don't think it would be Kerry or Edwards, that would only galvanize an already 'pissed-off' democratic base. I can see, however, a sympathy 'assassination" of someone on the right to "rally" the troops (and right-wing). My guess would be Chaney, but Powell might fair well, as his death may garner sympathy from an disenfranchised black voting population and also remove a "non-team-player."

The poster who brought up RFK made me think that there are right-wing nuts who would love to see Kerry dead. That thought now concerns me. Kerry is willing to have open rallies, yet our "war president" has closed (and undisclosed until that info is needed) rallies!

I can only pray that hope and truth will return to our nation, and the principles that this nation was founded on will find their way back into our policies and the heart of our nation.

Brightest Blessings!

[Norquist Nemesis]

43. Yes, I'd put odds on Cheney as well rather than

Kerry or Edwards. Putting Cheney down would land them a sympathy vote AND get rid of criminal investigations tying Halliburton to the White House (among others).

Things are just ducky! *sigh*

[Name removed]

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[Tight_rope]

47. Getthem the freeper is on the loose...watch out all.

[stickdog]

50. They will "take out" Cheney in NY & replace him with McCain, Condi or Rudy

Cheney will return to his underground lair and they will bury a giant leech in his place. Nobody will notice the difference.

[WinterStorm]

51. Bush shouldn't be alarmed at all

The only way that he is going to win :puke: is to steal the election one more time and if Kerry is out of the way it will be so much more easier to get in :puke:.

[Dem2theMax]

55. It must be the 'boy who cried wolf once too often' situation for me

because I'm not buying into any of it at this point. I just don't believe a word (let alone a syllable) that comes out of the mouth of anyone connected to * in even the remotest of ways.
It goes without saying that that includes the media.

I read all the posts here and all I can think of is that bad joke when * 41 was President.

Remember?

In case * 41 was shot and killed, what was the Secret Service ordered to do?

Shoot Quail.

How many more days till Nov. 2nd? Too many for me. I'm already :crazy:

Come on lotto numbers! It's time for a four year vacation.
If Kerry wins, I can take the vacation in the states. :)